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GTA V (PS5) currently up on the PS Store at 75% off ($9.99/€9,99) until June 14 and can be pre-loaded now

Boss Mog

Member
What I'm also curious about is will the online be PS5 only or will PS5 and PS4 players be able to play in the same lobbies. On one hand it may be nice to play with friends who don't have a PS5 yet, but on the other hand you'll have to wait on the PS4 players for the game to load when going in and out of activities which takes forever and PS5 only lobbies would greatly speed up the process. Maybe they'll have options for both?
 

Roxkis_ii

Member
What I'm also curious about is will the online be PS5 only or will PS5 and PS4 players be able to play in the same lobbies. On one hand it may be nice to play with friends who don't have a PS5 yet, but on the other hand you'll have to wait on the PS4 players for the game to load when going in and out of activities which takes forever and PS5 only lobbies would greatly speed up the process. Maybe they'll have options for both?
I don't think so. I think the top speed of cars is somehow related to the games framerate. So if your running at 60 fps, you gonna own last gen players in any races.
 

DrAspirino

Banned
Visuals above the PC version's highest settings, raytracing, DualSense features, HDR, 3D audio... how are $10 too expensive for all that?
You get that for free on PC with mods, so... :pie_eyeroll:


Anyway, this is just Rockstar greed. They picked the PC version, the mods, and called it a day. The community did most of the job.
 
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You get that for free on PC with mods, so... :pie_eyeroll:


The ps5/Xbox cost $500, can a $500 pc run these free mods? Can the pc used in thr video even run these free mods? What's with all the hitching and frame drops, strange how people froth at the mouth whenever this stuff happens anywhere else but when showing off the free mods (which are most certainly running on a $500 pc right) people turn a blind eye.

Edit: wait, there are free mods for pc that add dualsense, 3d audio and proper hdr?
 
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DrAspirino

Banned
The ps5/Xbox cost $500, can a $500 pc run these free mods? Can the pc used in thr video even run these free mods? What's with all the hitching and frame drops, strange how people froth at the mouth whenever this stuff happens anywhere else but when showing off the free mods (which are most certainly running on a $500 pc right) people turn a blind eye.

Edit: wait, there are free mods for pc that add dualsense, 3d audio and proper hdr?
3D audio is standard on the PC version. You get 5.1 audio if you have the PC connected to a receiver or you can get it in your headphones if you have the Dolby Atmos / DTS:X app in your PC.

Heck, my potato PC runs the vanilla version at 1080p 50 fps WITH 3D audio.

Oh, and by the way, these are the specs of the PC running all the mods on the video:

🟢GeForce RTX™ 3090 OC 🔴Ryzen™ 7 5800X 🔵32GB RAM

If we compare it spec-for-spec with the Series X, it has the same CPU, a somewhat less GPU (Series X GPU is equivalent of a RT3060 Ti) and half the RAM. Since the demo runs at 4k 60 fps with RT at those specs, it matches the RT specs for 4k 30 fps. It WOULD be considered a "nice job" if Rockstar made the game run at 4k 60 fps WITH RT at the specs of the Series X, but since that's not the case...

So it wasn’t free
It was, since those mods are free and modders don't get paid.
 
3D audio is standard on the PC version. You get 5.1 audio if you have the PC connected to a receiver or you can get it in your headphones if you have the Dolby Atmos / DTS:X app in your PC.

Heck, my potato PC runs the vanilla version at 1080p 50 fps WITH 3D audio.

Oh, and by the way, these are the specs of the PC running all the mods on the video:

🟢GeForce RTX™ 3090 OC 🔴Ryzen™ 7 5800X 🔵32GB RAM

If we compare it spec-for-spec with the Series X, it has the same CPU, a somewhat less GPU (Series X GPU is equivalent of a RT3060 Ti) and half the RAM. Since the demo runs at 4k 60 fps with RT at those specs, it matches the RT specs for 4k 30 fps. It WOULD be considered a "nice job" if Rockstar made the game run at 4k 60 fps WITH RT at the specs of the Series X, but since that's not the case...


It was, since those mods are free and modders don't get paid.

Is the cost of that pc equivalent to the $500 that a ps5 or xsx would cost?

Are you starting to understand the silliness of your supposed "gotcha console people!"
 

Freeman76

Member
Is the cost of that pc equivalent to the $500 that a ps5 or xsx would cost?

Are you starting to understand the silliness of your supposed "gotcha console people!"
You're wasting your time, the superiority complex blinds those types!

Where is the bloody footage of this, its only 4 days til its out and not a single video
 

DrAspirino

Banned
Is the cost of that pc equivalent to the $500 that a ps5 or xsx would cost?
Nope. Both Sony and Microsoft are selling their consoles at a loss FOR THEM, not Rockstar.

My logic here is the following:

Specs X run Y and it costs Z for that software. If Z = 0 (mods and unlocking framerate), then it's not logical to pay for something that costs 0.
 

Topher

Gold Member
Nope. Both Sony and Microsoft are selling their consoles at a loss FOR THEM, not Rockstar.

My logic here is the following:

Specs X run Y and it costs Z for that software. If Z = 0 (mods and unlocking framerate), then it's not logical to pay for something that costs 0.

But if you paid three times as much for "Specs X" does it make any sense at all to point out that you saved $10 due to free mods? There are plenty of great arguments for PC over console, but these days cost savings isn't a very good one.
 
Nope. Both Sony and Microsoft are selling their consoles at a loss FOR THEM, not Rockstar.

My logic here is the following:

Specs X run Y and it costs Z for that software. If Z = 0 (mods and unlocking framerate), then it's not logical to pay for something that costs 0.

Yeah ok you're still not getting it. Those three components you listed are well over $2000usd. If you're not running a beefy pc (and apparently the pc in that video wasn't nearly up to the task considering the frame drops and hitching everywhere) you're not getting anything close to what these mods show.

You're comparing mods that need a multi thousand dollar pc to run in order to save $10? This is your argument here? It's such a silly comparison, but in the end we get it. You're using this as another vehicle to tout supposed pc superiority. How old are you man, you're an adult right?
 

DrAspirino

Banned
But if you paid three times as much for "Specs X" does it make any sense at all to point out that you saved $10 due to free mods? There are plenty of great arguments for PC over console, but these days cost savings isn't a very good one.
Agree for most games and software, since those are finished products. GTA or Skyrim, for example, are already finished products that allow for mods and further enhancements from the community on the PC sphere, and makes no sense for console users to pay for something other users (PC modders) do to enhance their games. It's essentially charging money for community-made mods.

If it's Microsoft or Sony charging money, it'd be ok, since they are the ones losing money over every console sold.

But Rockstar? that's just pure unadultered greed.
 

Perrott

Member
You get that for free on PC with mods, so... :pie_eyeroll:


Anyway, this is just Rockstar greed. They picked the PC version, the mods, and called it a day. The community did most of the job.
Have you ever wondered why no vanilla game has ever looked like that in the entire history of our medium? Because the style of "enhanced graphics" you get out of most mods are extremely crap looking visuals due to the community having absolutely no clue about creating artistically pleasant graphics with a real creative purpose behind them.

Those mods are the equivalent of an Instagram selfie with maxed up filters and saturation; the look of the actual games on the other hand is the result of an entire art team with studies on the matter that knows what's the creative and emotional purpose of the art direction and look they have chosen for the title.

So the only thing those mods do is ruin the art direction of whatever title they are applied upon, and since there are tasteless people everywhere, it is only natural for a certain portion of the gaming community to have the factually wrong opinion of thinking that the games look better with those mods on.

Thankfully Rockstar hasn't gone down that route.
 

Topher

Gold Member
Agree for most games and software, since those are finished products. GTA or Skyrim, for example, are already finished products that allow for mods and further enhancements from the community on the PC sphere, and makes no sense for console users to pay for something other users (PC modders) do to enhance their games. It's essentially charging money for community-made mods.

If it's Microsoft or Sony charging money, it'd be ok, since they are the ones losing money over every console sold.

But Rockstar? that's just pure unadultered greed.

Where is it stated that the enhancements made to the console version is from "community-made mods"?
 
Where is it stated that the enhancements made to the console version is from "community-made mods"?

It never stated that of course, and obviously the enhancements brought forth in this remaster had to be done by people working at Rockstar, thus there was money expended to bring this out. Knowing all this people are still confused and irritated that Rockstar had the gall to charge money for it? When there are free mods out there made by the community?

This sounds like the next level of entitled gamer petulance.
 
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billyxci

Permabanned.
low price but it is almost 8 and a half years old and i've already played it multiple times on my PS3. they aren't adding anything new. maybe if we got some single player DLC we were promised. wait what year is it? 2014?
 
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