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Hype GOTY Awards Tracker 2020 Disscussion

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Theres more threads and awards praising this game than people who actually bought and played the game by now.

Probably the most controversial game released of all times.
Yet it has more GOTY awards as chosen by gamers than The Witcher 3 has. If people really hated the game they wouldn't have picked it as GOTY last year. Metacritic user scores have always been useless. Deal with it
  • The Last of Us Part II - 261
  • Media Outlets: 169 | Readers' Choice: 92
 
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Didn't realize that 7+ million people was barely anyone. I can list you some games that barely anyone played if you want.

cod warzone has 60m players. Let me not even talk about league or pugb or fortnite, and those are returning players every single month. How many players are playing this game currently right now? yea probably few k's at max.

Nobody plays these games, u could already see that at the most played console games last year that sony released ( i think it was sony ) this game wasn't it. yet its praised to the end of the world but why? the same way how death stranding the most dull game i ever exerienced non pc like game that won it for PC and has like 8k players or something monthly and 30k at launch.

It's fucking laughable how either out of touch these award clowns are, or what kind of agenda they try to push.

I must say duckman is a smart guy tho, he played the US media like a fiddle by just slapping a transgender in there. All the resetera soys went out in full force for it.
 
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Cutscene -> short gameplay -> cutscene? Oh, only about the last few decades of games.

Like the game all you want and if you had fun, that's great. But don't act like this is some revolution in gaming.

Not talking about cutscenes, you said the gameplay is laughable and stealth/shooting was done better in the 90's.

Any examples?

If you play the same combat encounter 20 times in TLOU2, you'll probably have 20 different outcomes. The seamless transitions between stealth/combat/escaping work better than in any other game.
You also have a ton of options and variety in the different setpieces.
And all that also looks and controls great.

If you think that's bad/average, I'm just curious what you think is good?
 
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Thief 1 and 2 for one. Beyond the 90s, stealth has been better in every Hitman, Splinter Cell game, Metal Gear, etc etc.

But please, don't let those get in the way of stroking yourself over a mediocre game with nice graphics.
No one that plays TLOU2 today and any of those games you mentioned would agree that those games did stealth and shooting better. No one but a blind TLOU2 hater like you that is.
 

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Thief 1 and 2 for one. Beyond the 90s, stealth has been better in every Hitman, Splinter Cell game, Metal Gear, etc etc.

But please, don't let those get in the way of stroking yourself over a mediocre game with nice graphics.
You said stealth AND shooting.
The shooting is laughable in all of those.
Except mgs5 but thats definitely not a late 90s game lol.
 

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Yet it has more GOTY awards as chosen by gamers than The Witcher 3 has. If people really hated the game they wouldn't have picked it as GOTY last year. Metacritic user scores have always been useless. Deal with it
  • The Last of Us Part II - 261
  • Media Outlets: 169 | Readers' Choice: 92
"game has more gamers awards from gamers so that matters"
"it has a bad score on metacritic so MC is worthless".

And let's just say, okay game got review bombed because it was a highly anticipated ps4 game. Then explain this

Anyone who loves the last of us 2 has an Era account. Either that, or they have confused Gaf for being Era.

That's just as an extreme statement as yours.

But you do you. Open a bottle of champagne with Druckmann and be happy for his game awards.
 

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Well, it's not really surprising. Game journalists are heavy sjw leftists, and anything that caters to their view is great (for them).

Druckmann can check off two lesbians and a trans off the list to get an Oscar, although it still needs a black main lead these days. Maybe the last of us 3 will change that.

And no, im not bullshitting:

For the 96th Oscars (2024), a film must meet TWO out of FOUR of the following standards to be deemed eligible:

STANDARD A: ON-SCREEN REPRESENTATION, THEMES AND NARRATIVES

• Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander
• Other underrepresented race or ethnicity

A2. General ensemble cast

At least 30% of all actors in secondary and more minor roles are from at least two of the following underrepresented groups:
• Women
• Racial or ethnic group
• LGBTQ+
• People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing

A3. Main storyline/subject matter

The main storyline(s), theme or narrative of the film is centered on an underrepresented group(s).
• Women
• Racial or ethnic group
• LGBTQ+
• People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing

Druckmann is just catering to the sjw infested game journalism and the Hollywood industry, because everyone can clearly see this man is way more interested in showing a movie where he can label his political agenda, but hopefully gets rejected by Hollywood so he at least can continue to
NDs games instead og the entire Hollywood.

Now that I think about it, it probably doesn't matter where that idiot is, Hollywood is already damaging them selves.

Yes.



 

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After that game awards show a couple months back, I realized these awards don’t mean shit anymore.
 

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Lol, easy when your best adversary is an indie game. (apart from Alyx, which no one played, sadly)

Look which games The Witcher 3 competed with:
Fallout 4
Metal Gear Solid V
Bloodborne
Super Mario Maker
Um Fallout 4 was seen as a disappointment and just more of Fallout 3 by most. MGS5 had amazing gameplay but a ton of people didn't like it for the story. Bloodborne like most souls games is niche. So while they may have been good games they weren't exactly better competition over something like Animal Crossing that 30 million people played, Ghost of Tsushima (who so many here praise), Hades that probably had as many people play it as Bloodborne had in the first year, or Final Fantasy 7 Remake that was far better than something like Fallout 4. There were tons of great games last year. TLOU2 had plenty of competition. It was simply just that much better.
 

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Watching the haters come out of the woodwork always brings a big fucking smile to my face. It's hilarious watching them trip over themselves to come up with whatever bullshit they can to try and bring this game down. :messenger_tears_of_joy:
They really come up with the dumbest shit too.
 
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Deserves every last bit of the praise. Best game ever made.



Now give us a PS5 version. Not just 60fps. I’m talking remaster. Paid, not paid, whatever.

4K

60fps

RT Global Illumination on characters and objects to ground them in the scene with the baked environments.

Cutscene quality character models in gameplay, especially enemies

Pushed out LoD as far as feasible

Load times cut down

Touched up textures in weak spots

Haptic Feedback and Adaptive Trigger Integration.

And if there’s any horsepower left after all that, throw in some RT shadows or reflections.


My most wanted PS5 announcement.
 
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"B-b-but it has akshual FLAWS in the story and BAD pacing"

On a serious note though, gotta give it to ND for dominating a decade and coining the modern cinematic action adventure. Uncharted 4 and TLOU2 really were a different dimension of quality compared to the competition in the genre.
 
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Theres more threads and awards praising this game than people who actually bought and played the game by now.
I'm willing to bet half of those 65K negative ratings are from review bombers who didn't even play the game and people who saw the leaks and joined in on the bandwagon. I remember hours after the user reviews opened on release day, it was already being review-bombed with 1/10's and somehow managed to get 151K user ratings for a game on just ONE platform. Yea, okay.

 
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I'm willing to bet half of those 65K negative ratings are from review bombers who didn't even play the game and people who saw the leaks and joined in on the bandwagon. I remember hours after the user reviews opened on release day, it was already being review-bombed with 1/10's and somehow managed to get 151K user ratings for a game on just ONE platform. Yea, okay.

But why didn't TLOU, got and GOW not get review bombed.
 

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I'm willing to bet half of those 65K negative ratings are from review bombers who didn't even play the game and people who saw the leaks and joined in on the bandwagon. I remember hours after the user reviews opened on release day, it was already being review-bombed with 1/10's and somehow managed to get 151K user ratings for a game on just ONE platform. Yea, okay.

You don't have to bet. It's a well known fact that it was targeted by review bombers and people who gave it 0/10 just because it had a trans character or because a certain character died. There were Youtubers who never even played the game sending their hateful audience to review bomb it. That's why no one with half a brain pays attention to user scores on Metacritic. When there is no proof that you played a game then you can't take things like this seriously. Funny that the game has positive reception from places that actually do verify that you played it. Gee I wonder why.
 

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But why didn't TLOU, got and GOW not get review bombed.
A. Because they didn't have a trans character or a muscular woman for certain hate groups to target them and B. They didn't kill a certain character. Cry babies think that a story should go they way they want it to.
 
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But why didn't TLOU, got and GOW not get review bombed.

Because there are a lot of insecure assholes out there who took issue with various aspects of the game like certain story beats or the background of certain characters. A lot of these morons made up their minds before the game even came out because a lot of the games content leaked ahead of time. There were coordinated efforts in various communities to get people to review bomb the game. No one should ever listen to anything those jackass ever have to say about anything.
 
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Nothing gets The_Mike more triggered than a Naughty Dog game having success....

Lmao its been real tough on some folks. Now it has dethroned PCMR's darling the Witcher 3....oh boy....

You could say I told em how it was gonna be......All I remember was" "but but... but Cyberpunk"... here they're 6 months after, still coping...
 
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A. Because they didn't have a trans character or a muscular woman for certain hate groups to target them and B. They didn't kill a certain character. Cry babies think that a story should go they way they want it to.
So people not liking what you like are cry babies. Interesting approach.

No one gave a shit about Abby being trans, it's just a joke to use him.

People didn't hate Joel die, and you know it as well. People hated how he died. A survivor never trusting anyone suddenly let his guards down like a cuck just go get what was coming for him.

If he died with using his instincts no one would mind. But Druckmann killing him this way just to virtually spit on him.
Ellie is a lesbian. No one gave a shit on it.

The first game should've bombed as well with a lesbian in it by your logic.

Everyone who's tired of gears of war and halo... Are they haters as well, or is that a legit reasoning?

According to you, everything should've be loved, and if people didn't enjoy it then they are haters, homophobes etc.

Let it go man. The game is controversal for a reason. The gameplay is basic and seen a thousand times before. The story was weak, which is really bad for a game that's story driven and gameplay comes second.

But we can argue this from now on to judgment day. I'm never going to say this game deserved all the rewards, and you say the game deserved every reward. And that's fine.

I just find it pathetic that only use arguemtns that benefits your own beliefs in a discussion, like saying game awards matter and MC doesn't, just because you don't agree with it.

But I'm a white Caucasian male, and ND games are not for people like me. I respect that, but I don't enjoy their games more or less because of that, but simply because of the political propaganda in the game.

Nothing gets The_Mike more triggered than a Naughty Dog game having success....

Lmao its been real tough on some folks. Now it has dethroned PCMR's darling the Witcher 3....oh boy....

You could say I told em how it was gonna be......All I remember was" "but but... but Cyberpunk"... here they're 6 months after, still coping...

Didn't care to read your fanboy post after seeing words like pcmr and other slurs Fanboys calls other people.

But I loved the first the last of us, and if I wanted I would've bought the second. It was to be honest the only game I wanted for my ps4 after trying to complete the first.

I just can't play games with a political agenda. That's also why I mainly skipped Ubisoft.
 
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Total awards in 2020: 479
Total awards in 2015: 447

Adjusted for award inflation, The Witcher 3 still wins.

Em...

# of Games per Year to Receive... at Least 1 Award, (More than 1), [10 or more]:

  • 2019 - 33 (21) [7]
  • 2015 - 26 (13) [5]
Looks like 2019 had more contenders
 

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So people not liking what you like are cry babies. Interesting approach.

No one gave a shit about Abby being trans, it's just a joke to use him.

People didn't hate Joel die, and you know it as well. People hated how he died. A survivor never trusting anyone suddenly let his guards down like a cuck just go get what was coming for him.

If he died with using his instincts no one would mind. But Druckmann killing him this way just to virtually spit on him.
Ellie is a lesbian. No one gave a shit on it.

The first game should've bombed as well with a lesbian in it by your logic.

Everyone who's tired of gears of war and halo... Are they haters as well, or is that a legit reasoning?

According to you, everything should've be loved, and if people didn't enjoy it then they are haters, homophobes etc.

Let it go man. The game is controversal for a reason. The gameplay is basic and seen a thousand times before. The story was weak, which is really bad for a game that's story driven and gameplay comes second.

But we can argue this from now on to judgment day. I'm never going to say this game deserved all the rewards, and you say the game deserved every reward. And that's fine.

I just find it pathetic that only use arguemtns that benefits your own beliefs in a discussion, like saying game awards matter and MC doesn't, just because you don't agree with it.

But I'm a white Caucasian male, and ND games are not for people like me. I respect that, but I don't enjoy their games more or less because of that, but simply because of the political propaganda in the game.



You have misspelled your first name in the username. White isn't spelled like that.

We can all make typos.

Hey everyone, I found one of those people that no one should ever listen to about anything! EVER!

Where's that's fucking ignore button...
 
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Hey everyone, I found one of those people that no one should ever listen to about anything! EVER!

Where's that's fucking ignore button...

Feel free to ignore me. That's the easiest thing to do when you have no arguments or don't like other people with another opinion than you.

Which seems to be very strong and aggressive among those who like TLOU2. But then again, it's also common with leftists so no surprise there.
 
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Even though the story, which should be its main component, sucks.
This, and even The Wicther 3 before it, really shows how sad the state of these awards are.
 
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Makes sense I guess, since everyone is ignoring HL: Alyx.

They did go a little crazy with the story but it was definitely a wild ride and the combat gameplay was amazing. A game with no mtx and season pass winning is also nice.

Not sure if serious, but did you actually expected a linear 10-15 hour PC only VR shooter to top The Witcher 3 in awards? I mean come on. I'd love to try Alyx as a big Half-Life 1 fan (no PC with VR unfortunately), but let's be realistic here.

Anyway, well deserved. One of my favorite games of all time, together with the first one. Gotta admit it's extremely satisfying to see all the salt flow after the vile and toxic hate this game and the people that worked on it, got. A true masterpiece and the best game of all time made by the best developer of all time, going by this list.
 
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No one gave a shit about Abby being trans, it's just a joke to use him.
Abby isn't even trans dumbass. If you played the game you would know that LOL
People didn't hate Joel die, and you know it as well. People hated how he died. A survivor never trusting anyone suddenly let his guards down like a cuck just go get what was coming for him.
The game gives good reasoning for this that made perfect sense to me. This goes right back to what I said about people wanting a story to go their way and if it doesn't they come up with all kinds of BS to call it trash.
Let it go man. The game is controversal for a reason. The gameplay is basic and seen a thousand times before. The story was weak, which is really bad for a game that's story driven and gameplay comes second.
Controversial yet it has pretty much been picked by gamers unanimously worldwide as the best game of 2020. More like the tiny vocal crowd of blind haters that you're in try to make it out like most hated it when that isn't the case at all.
 
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cod warzone has 60m players. Let me not even talk about league or pugb or fortnite, and those are returning players every single month. How many players are playing this game currently right now? yea probably few k's at max.

Nobody plays these games, u could already see that at the most played console games last year that sony released ( i think it was sony ) this game wasn't it. yet its praised to the end of the world but why? the same way how death stranding the most dull game i ever exerienced non pc like game that won it for PC and has like 8k players or something monthly and 30k at launch.

It's fucking laughable how either out of touch these award clowns are, or what kind of agenda they try to push.

I must say duckman is a smart guy tho, he played the US media like a fiddle by just slapping a transgender in there. All the resetera soys went out in full force for it.
You take this a little too seriously judging by how salty you are.

Just accept that the game is critically acclaimed and well liked.

Move on and save your energy for whatever it is that you like to play. ❤️
 

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Abby isn't even trans dumbass. If you played the game you would know that LOL

Probably not, but let's say there's a reason you can't find steroids anywhere in the post apocalyptic world.

It's still a joke to make a woman that unnaturally buffed, In a world where drugs like this should be almost impossible to find.

The game gives good reasoning for this that made perfect sense to me. This goes right back to what I said about people wanting a story to go their way and if it doesn't they come up with all kinds of BS to call it trash.

So, now we're back to people who doesnt like what you do are wrong and stupid.

"it makes perfect sense to me, therefore are everyone else who thinks or feels otherwise regarded bigots.

Also, can you try to explain why it makes sense Joel for once let's his guards down so he can be slaughtered like he just went out of a time machine to get brutally murdered and Druckmann could spit on him?

Controversial yet it has pretty much been picked by gamers unanimously worldwide as the best game of 2020. More like the tiny vocal crowd of blind haters that you're in try to make it out like most hated it when that isn't the case at all.


Now I'm a hater for thinking the game is bad? Wow.

You are the one in your echo chamber, denying everything and only belief in people with your opinion is right.

The difference between you and me, is that you have strong emotions to a god damn video game and needs to defend it like it was someone attacking your girlfriend.

I just casually debates in this thread, while getting offensive posts from people like you who has the urge to silence everyone not agreeing with you.

Don't mind me any further Bro, I think it's time to go back to your echo chamber and to get all that hatred against all people charged up, I guess youve spent your quote for now.

And that actress recieved numerous threats on social media.

Which is fucking wrong and stupid. People should grow the fuck up and not sending death treats to people over this - hell over anything really.

I agree that those people are cry babies, but not people who just has an opinion about the game.
 
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Personally, I thought the game was brilliant. Was it absolutely necessary to force current social politics into the second half of the game? No, it wasn't. Do I think the game was less brilliant because of this? No, I don't. I loved the spiraling revenge tale and the absolute incredible game play. Like most, at first, I wasn't too happy about having to play as Abby, but that changed after a while and I found I actually liked it. In the end, I felt it was one of the best games I have ever played.

Was it GOTY? In my mind, nothing came close and it deserves all the awards it received. Congrats, Naughty Dog.
 
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Can you name some of those?
Not gonna argue about story, but the the stealth gameplay in TLoU2 isn't anything too wild compared to true stealth titles like Splinter Cell, Thief or Hitman. It is clearly made to shoot anything in plain sight with stealth being an afterthought and a lackluster one. As an action game though, I pretty much enjoy the mechanics.
 

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Deserved... the game is indeed a masterpiece.

The biggest difference in number of awards are how many public pools it won compared with the past games.

Public choice votes give the game the advantage in awards compared with previous GOTY.
 

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But why didn't TLOU, got and GOW not get review bombed.
Technically every game gets "review-bombed" but those type of people are in the minority all the time compared to the total user ratings, the amount of shit that got leaked from TLOU2 and one of those short clips happened to show a widely beloved character getting killed by a muscular woman, and from there you already knew what was gonna happen on release day with the user ratings. The scale at which it happened with like 151K ratings and 63K of them being negative was enough to tell me that the game wasn't as controversial as people made it out to be, I'm not saying it absolutely no one can hate the game or anything, people have different opinions on it and that's fine. But is it so controversial that it deserves to be on the all-time list? It's not even close imo. The sad thing about Tsushima is that every time I see people talk about it, rather than talking about the game itself, they talk about TLOU2 and how it was shittiest game they've ever played, it's almost as if people voted against TLOU2 rather than voting for Ghost of Tsushima, which I absolutely loved too and I think Tsushima's one of the best games I've played this gen.

People didn't hate Joel die, and you know it as well. People hated how he died. A survivor never trusting anyone suddenly let his guards down like a cuck just go get what was coming for him.

If he died with using his instincts no one would mind.
How is it sudden? He's lived there safely for 4 years with a peaceful community and obviously changed compared to how he was in TLOU1, nothing about it felt sudden or forced for me personally, you might've felt different and that's fine (assuming you played the game of course). I watched the interview they had with Kinda Funny Games and I think Neil and Troy explained it well imo.

(14:53-18:48)

But Druckmann killing him this way just to virtually spit on him.
Look, debating about the game itself is fine but saying shit like this about the guy who even created these characters in the first place is reaching a bit.

(timestamped)
 
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No one that plays TLOU2 today and any of those games you mentioned would agree that those games did stealth and shooting better. No one but a blind TLOU2 hater like you that is.
They definitely did stealth better. For one because stealth is like it should be -> challenging.
Also because those games are completely build around using stealth to progress, meaning they use a complex system with a lot of thought put into it. LOU' stealth is very tame and easy by comparison. 90% of the time the more viable option is just to shoot everything. It's as much a stealth game as Crysis is.
 

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Technically every game gets "review-bombed" but those type of people are in the minority all the time compared to the total user ratings, the amount of shit that got leaked from TLOU2 and one of those short clips happened to show a widely beloved character getting killed by a muscular woman, and from there you already knew what was gonna happen on release day with the user ratings. The scale at which it happened with like 151K ratings and 63K of them being negative was enough to tell me that the game wasn't as controversial as people made it out to be, I'm not saying it absolutely no one can hate the game or anything, people have different opinions on it and that's fine. But is it so controversial that it deserves to be on the all-time list? It's not even close imo.


How is it sudden? He's lived there safely for 4 years with a peaceful community and obviously changed compared to how he was in TLOU1, nothing about it felt sudden or forced for me personally, you might've felt different and that's fine (assuming you played the game of course). I watched the interview they had with Kinda Funny Games and I think Neil and Troy explained it well imo.

(14:53-18:48)


Look, debating about the game itself is fine but saying shit like this about the guy who even created these characters in the first place is reaching a bit.

(timestamped)

Thanks for a well informative post that actually explains your opinion good and I can see what you mean. I still don't agree, but you set the bar high and there's definitely someone here who could learn from you.

But what I meant with virtually spit on him is because he literally does.

 
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You don't have to bet. It's a well known fact that it was targeted by review bombers and people who gave it 0/10 just because it had a trans character or because a certain character died. There were Youtubers who never even played the game sending their hateful audience to review bomb it. That's why no one with half a brain pays attention to user scores on Metacritic. When there is no proof that you played a game then you can't take things like this seriously. Funny that the game has positive reception from places that actually do verify that you played it. Gee I wonder why.

Or the people that award bombed them because it had a transgender in it.