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Putonahappyface
Member
Holy shit those Berserkers are intense.
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
I’m at the place where Atreus goes when he falls asleep and meets the one person.
This section of the game is just dragging on and on. It’s at least 3x longer than it needs to be. Feels like Final Fantasy 7 Remake levels of padding.
This section of the game is just dragging on and on. It’s at least 3x longer than it needs to be. Feels like Final Fantasy 7 Remake levels of padding.
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BouncyFrag
Member
Just when you think it’s over, it will keep on going I’m afraid.
sainraja
Member
If you feel like the game is getting a bit long, you can easily take a break and come back to it. I took my time through the game on purpose (not realizing how long the game was) and I would say I was overall satisfied with the length. I did all side quests that I possibly could (the crucible stuff I still need to do and some of the gravestone fights — these are challenging. I found it to be not too long and not too short.
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FoxMcChief
Gold Member
Fuck me. Really? Like, this section, or are there more to come? Please god tell me there’s not more later on too.
The games length is fine. Just this section with Atreus is bad, imo. Everything else has been great, even the previous Atreus section.
Ulysses 31
Member
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
sainraja
Member
I didn't mind playing as Atreus. It was a nice slightly different way to play through some of the areas for me. His combat style was a little more agile/fast. The area you are describing is (when he sleeps and wakes up), I think, the first time you get to control Atreus, but the other sections aren't like this so I wouldn't worry. I didn't mind it personally.
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FoxMcChief
Gold Member
I have no problem with playing as Atreus. Nice pallet change. It’s the story pacing that’s god awful. Riding that thing, just walking and talking. Just so boring compared to the everything else. And no, there was a section previously where you play as Atreus and your goal is to meet mad momma.
sainraja
Member
Oh yeah, I thought I was forgetting a previous encounter.....but later encounters with Atreus aren't like this. They probably could have set up Atreus' sections as a separate campaign so when playing through Kratos, you only learn about what he shares with you. Then you could choose to go through Atreus' campaign and enjoy it separately. Maybe that might have helped with the pacing issues for you.
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BouncyFrag
Member
My favorite banter from the game. Kratos gets mildly offended with, ‘exaggerated?!?’.
Edit - I just replayed GoW2 and forgot that Kratos also went further back in time to bring back the vanquished titans to serve his needs for revenge. That’s even worse than what he admitted, lol.
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Edit - I just replayed GoW2 and forgot that Kratos also went further back in time to bring back the vanquished titans to serve his needs for revenge. That’s even worse than what he admitted, lol.
Kratos tells Mimir how he killed “Zeus & Sisters of Fate” | God of War Ragnarok
Kratos tells Mimir how he killed Zeus & Sisters of Fate | God of War Ragnarok#godofwarragnarok #gowragnarok #godofwar
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Bartski
Gold Member
SSM Ragnarok art blast. Great stuff incl some discarded designs
magazine.artstation.com
Santa Monica Studio God of War Ragnarok Art Blast (Part One) - ArtStation Magazine
The Santa Monica Studio team are very happy to share the art behind God of War Ragnarok in the first of this two-part Art Blast.
magazine.artstation.com
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
I’m having a hard time with this game. It’s the pacing. I still consider the 2018 God of War to be the best Sony exclusive ever. This sequel though. I’m having trouble just sitting down with it and having things being very stretched out. Just feels like the game has far less game in it, and more story beats than the last one.
Am I the only one that feels/felt this way about this game?
Am I the only one that feels/felt this way about this game?
Daneel Elijah
Gold Member
Depends on the difficulty I suppose. I have yet to finish the game( but I am close). On the hardest difficulty i was dying all the time. On hard it is better but still lot of deaths on certain boss. If you do not die I can see the gameplay/ cinematics mix be not in the gameplay favor.
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sainraja
Member
I don't think there is "less game" in this one. There is a lot more to do in the game. The many side quests, the gravestone battles... it just looks like the game did not hit the mark for you, and that is perfectly okay; it's not less of a game for it. I mean, there is so much in the game so I find it hard to understand anyone saying it has less game in it.
Maybe you should step away from the game and play something else and come back to it later. Sometimes "timing" can be everything. I didn't finish the first one until COVID downtime because upon its release I just wasn't getting into it, but playing it again later changed my mind.
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FoxMcChief
Gold Member
I have found myself taking breaks from it. I beat High on Life and played a ton of Monster Hunter Rise. Then I came back to it. But you might be right. I might not be in the mood for something like this.
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
I’ve done all the side quests that I can so far. We are in Midgard trying to find the Norns.
How far into the game am I?
How far into the game am I?
TheHolyGhost
Neo Member
~65% If I remember correctly, still a while to go of the main story at least.
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
Sweet. Thanks.
Sygma
Member
Started this two days ago and reached Tyr in one sitting. (quit when i got to play Atreus, did the mining rigs / watchtower sidequest too)
So far its a gigantic letdown compared to the 1st which definitely was more focused than this. Everything seems to have been designed to last longer than it should have : for example why is there so many puzzles just to get to the dwarf city. Why in the train sequence leading to the mine, there needed to be two or three trains and puzzles and unecessary combat encounters between them ?
Also why is there MULTIPLE combat encounters sometimes in the same room you're in just because you trigger a script (for example getting close to a chest). Whats up with all these little adds based hyper repetitive encouters just padding out the pacing ?
where did the hand to hand skill tree go ? the shield's ? like I get it Atreus get special arrows quickly which get you to stun enemies efficiently if you picked the more aggressive shield, and I get it that you need to either put ice or burn status on enemies then swap to the other weapon to destroy them but it feels so extra for no reason.
GoW 2018 was way, way, way tighter than this because it gave room to contemplation and spaced it out with combat that felt "relevant" to the journey and the places we were going through in a sense, in a similar amount of hours played it just felt twice as focused. Here I'm still getting tutorials pop ups after 6 hours like what the fuck ?
Also what the hell happened to the writing. Atreus felt almost "real" in his reactions in the first game, he was extremely believable and relatable. Here's he's just at times reacting so oddly and overall just seems poorly written versus Kratos's impeccable (and quite surprising) stoicism. I don't really get it. Sure it does look better, sure there's much more enemy variety so far, more moves to the combat and whatnot but it doesn't grip the same. Hope it'll get better
So far its a gigantic letdown compared to the 1st which definitely was more focused than this. Everything seems to have been designed to last longer than it should have : for example why is there so many puzzles just to get to the dwarf city. Why in the train sequence leading to the mine, there needed to be two or three trains and puzzles and unecessary combat encounters between them ?
Also why is there MULTIPLE combat encounters sometimes in the same room you're in just because you trigger a script (for example getting close to a chest). Whats up with all these little adds based hyper repetitive encouters just padding out the pacing ?
where did the hand to hand skill tree go ? the shield's ? like I get it Atreus get special arrows quickly which get you to stun enemies efficiently if you picked the more aggressive shield, and I get it that you need to either put ice or burn status on enemies then swap to the other weapon to destroy them but it feels so extra for no reason.
GoW 2018 was way, way, way tighter than this because it gave room to contemplation and spaced it out with combat that felt "relevant" to the journey and the places we were going through in a sense, in a similar amount of hours played it just felt twice as focused. Here I'm still getting tutorials pop ups after 6 hours like what the fuck ?
Also what the hell happened to the writing. Atreus felt almost "real" in his reactions in the first game, he was extremely believable and relatable. Here's he's just at times reacting so oddly and overall just seems poorly written versus Kratos's impeccable (and quite surprising) stoicism. I don't really get it. Sure it does look better, sure there's much more enemy variety so far, more moves to the combat and whatnot but it doesn't grip the same. Hope it'll get better
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IbizaPocholo
NeoGAFs Kent Brockman
Played a couple of ours and have to say that the game feels extremely samey compared to the original, everything down to the start of the plot to the exploring. It worked i 2018, but feels really outdated now.
Too many restrictions and very "gamey". Very noticable after playing Elden Ring, which in comparison feels alot mot organic.
Sure it looks great, but......
Too many restrictions and very "gamey". Very noticable after playing Elden Ring, which in comparison feels alot mot organic.
Sure it looks great, but......
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Daneel Elijah
Gold Member
No. Not at all.
ChoosableOne
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"I fucked up" lol. This dad drama thing doesn't work well with this game. It's like watching an American slow burn drama starring lonely dad Kratos and drunken dad Thor. But I'm loving this game, it's great. It could've been goat without lame Athreus parts(slow cinematic gameplay sections combined with basic combat moves) and some overly dramatized story bits though.
Oh, that R2D2 sword sucks too.
Oh, that R2D2 sword sucks too.
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Shake Your Rump
Member
I was playing this game constantly at release with my girlfriend watching the whole time. She went away for a few days so I put the game on hold and never went back.
The DLC made me interested again. I booted up my save game from November 2022. I had no idea what to do or how to use the controls. After fumbling around for 30 minutes, I quit and restarted as a new game.
I am now back to the point where I rescue that large sea creature and already the constant yammering from Mimir is driving me nuts. It was cool and interesting in the first game, but I didn’t care for it in Ragnarok. It’s just a unending stream of names and events that have no bearing on the game itself.
Anyway, I think I am back in full form and can resume my original savegame. I had 35 hours invested and want to see it through to the end. This game is good, but not 2018 good (of which I played through twice). This will be a one and done for me.
The DLC made me interested again. I booted up my save game from November 2022. I had no idea what to do or how to use the controls. After fumbling around for 30 minutes, I quit and restarted as a new game.
I am now back to the point where I rescue that large sea creature and already the constant yammering from Mimir is driving me nuts. It was cool and interesting in the first game, but I didn’t care for it in Ragnarok. It’s just a unending stream of names and events that have no bearing on the game itself.
Anyway, I think I am back in full form and can resume my original savegame. I had 35 hours invested and want to see it through to the end. This game is good, but not 2018 good (of which I played through twice). This will be a one and done for me.
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cormack12
Gold Member
Finally completed today with platinum. There are two legendary chests left to get but I cba with them.
I really struggled on a few berserker fights before Hrolf. So went and blasted through the crater. Despite being generally great, there were still issues with the camera and quick movement, especially with multiple mobs like the berserker plus two sisters. Or the poison ones.
I thought the quick jump away was a bit lame as well. Hrolf and Gna were both really tough (normal). I actually had to change and refine the build completely for Hrolf hence the visit to the crater. Took me quite a few tries and a res stone but got him done. Gna was a total twat. Bodied me so many times, Freya's poison came in handy but again felt the camera and off screen loss of target made this more difficult than it should have been, as well as the stunlock and projectile splash.
The story I actually really liked second time through. I think when games come out we tend to want to get to the end so they drag on. But this felt nicely paced and I took my time more in each area.
The game overall has gone up in my estimation. It's the last for a while or this mythology at least which is good.
I really struggled on a few berserker fights before Hrolf. So went and blasted through the crater. Despite being generally great, there were still issues with the camera and quick movement, especially with multiple mobs like the berserker plus two sisters. Or the poison ones.
I thought the quick jump away was a bit lame as well. Hrolf and Gna were both really tough (normal). I actually had to change and refine the build completely for Hrolf hence the visit to the crater. Took me quite a few tries and a res stone but got him done. Gna was a total twat. Bodied me so many times, Freya's poison came in handy but again felt the camera and off screen loss of target made this more difficult than it should have been, as well as the stunlock and projectile splash.
The story I actually really liked second time through. I think when games come out we tend to want to get to the end so they drag on. But this felt nicely paced and I took my time more in each area.
The game overall has gone up in my estimation. It's the last for a while or this mythology at least which is good.
Ryuji Goda
Member
Just finished it. I really liked it. Beautiful presentation.
Too long though
Too long though
Giallo Corsa
Gold Member
The bear McCreary music is beautiful.
Graphics are nice.
Other than that though...I just don't know lads, between the shit-tastic combat system which is convoluted, the camera system which either spazzes out or unlocks you from enemies (and I've tried all accessibility options), the constant MCU-like banter where characters just don't shut the fuck up, the INCREDIBLE Americanisms® in the way the dialogue's written where everyone sounds like they came straight from the 00's and the incredibly forced diversity amongst other things are making me lose all interest I had for this game - it really feels soulless and made by a G'damn committee in the end.
...and it's really a shame since the first 10 hours are actually good (up to finding Tyr) due to the atmosphere, the "mystery" leading up to Tyr, the picturesque environments coupled with the nice music but... upon reaching that dark elf level with its awful axe throwing puzzles, the God awful writing and finally, that fucking level with Angrboda - which, let's face it, the whole diversity thing was manufactured solely to elicit the "anger" from the "bad evil internet racists®" is just the shit-stained cherry on this foul-smelling cake, fuxkers knew exactly what they were doing but they did it anyway as to get publicity and hey, it worked, just took a look on the intrawebs and there's about a gazillion of videos, opinions , articles etc where the usual "lol wHy sO AnGry they're fiCtioNaL cHarActers yOu RaCiSts loLoL" card is played ad infinitum.
It's the usual corporate clickbait basically.
Had my fun for 10+ hours but I really don't know if I can muster the courage to keep exploring box-like rooms, watching tight-spot crawling animations, using the shit combat system and just hearing characters talking non-stop, and with Stellar Blade coming this week, I think that it'll make my decision easier.
This, by all accounts, feels like a game made by a committee with it's OCD inducing lvl systems/fake exploration where you collect shiny bits and open chests every 20 meters and MCU-like levels of writing, just...no
Not like the first reboot was anything mind-shattering both story and combat-wise (in fact, Ragnarok is pretty much the same) but this just feels worse and even more padded - and from what I'm reading, it gets even worse later on.
I don't think I have the will nor the time to continue...
Graphics are nice.
Other than that though...I just don't know lads, between the shit-tastic combat system which is convoluted, the camera system which either spazzes out or unlocks you from enemies (and I've tried all accessibility options), the constant MCU-like banter where characters just don't shut the fuck up, the INCREDIBLE Americanisms® in the way the dialogue's written where everyone sounds like they came straight from the 00's and the incredibly forced diversity amongst other things are making me lose all interest I had for this game - it really feels soulless and made by a G'damn committee in the end.
...and it's really a shame since the first 10 hours are actually good (up to finding Tyr) due to the atmosphere, the "mystery" leading up to Tyr, the picturesque environments coupled with the nice music but... upon reaching that dark elf level with its awful axe throwing puzzles, the God awful writing and finally, that fucking level with Angrboda - which, let's face it, the whole diversity thing was manufactured solely to elicit the "anger" from the "bad evil internet racists®" is just the shit-stained cherry on this foul-smelling cake, fuxkers knew exactly what they were doing but they did it anyway as to get publicity and hey, it worked, just took a look on the intrawebs and there's about a gazillion of videos, opinions , articles etc where the usual "lol wHy sO AnGry they're fiCtioNaL cHarActers yOu RaCiSts loLoL" card is played ad infinitum.
It's the usual corporate clickbait basically.
Had my fun for 10+ hours but I really don't know if I can muster the courage to keep exploring box-like rooms, watching tight-spot crawling animations, using the shit combat system and just hearing characters talking non-stop, and with Stellar Blade coming this week, I think that it'll make my decision easier.
This, by all accounts, feels like a game made by a committee with it's OCD inducing lvl systems/fake exploration where you collect shiny bits and open chests every 20 meters and MCU-like levels of writing, just...no
Not like the first reboot was anything mind-shattering both story and combat-wise (in fact, Ragnarok is pretty much the same) but this just feels worse and even more padded - and from what I'm reading, it gets even worse later on.
I don't think I have the will nor the time to continue...
arkhamguy123
Member
The Atreus levels single handidly ruined my new game plus second playthrough. It’s sad. It’s a well made game and the first run was great but I don’t think I’ll ever play through it again due to its pacing issues which are largely caused by the cinematic playstation exclusive stereotypical slow walking and talking, IQ 70 puzzles, and sitting and watching scripted sequences.
It’s the EXACT same tired game design and formula that’s making me fight to finish a Spider-Man 2 new game plus playthrough.
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Giallo Corsa
Gold Member
Wait brother (in Mimir's voice), there's more than 1 ?
Well, fuck meeeeee !
I just can't...
Are there any other awful levels/bits in the game besides these ?
PS : I mean it in a non-asshole way but...this game is pretty long apparently, how did you muster the courage for a 2nd playthrough ?
For me, these type of games are usually a one and done affair due to - like you said - "the cinematic playstation exclusive stereotypical slow walking"
It's a shame since it's a well-made game but...again, the shiny bits collecting, chest hunting/smashing, Raven + the myriad of collectables and level design which is stuck in the late 2020's ain't doing it any favours, I don't know if I could take a 3rd game like this, it feels almost archaic in pretty much everything ffs.
Cheers
arkhamguy123
Member
Oh dude… you poor thing. You thought it was a one off? Nah man there’s multiple long ones through the game. It’s easily the worst aspect of the productWait brother (in Mimir's voice), there's more than 1 ?
Well, fuck meeeeee !
I just can't...
Are there any other awful levels/bits in the game besides these ?
PS : I mean it in a non-asshole way but...this game is pretty long apparently, how did you muster the courage for a 2nd playthrough ?
For me, these type of games are usually a one and done affair due to - like you said - "the cinematic playstation exclusive stereotypical slow walking"
It's a shame since it's a well-made game but...again, the shiny bits collecting, chest hunting/smashing, Raven + the myriad of collectables and level design which is stuck in the late 2020's ain't doing it any favours, I don't know if I could take a 3rd game like this, it feels almost archaic in pretty much everything ffs.
Cheers
I wanted to play it again cause I adored it the first time but the horrible pacing just killed it for me. I don’t know why modern games have to try to emulate film in that way.
You know the thinkin is “Cause movies have slow parts in between action WE must have slow parts in between our combat” and it’s just such erroneous thinking. It’s a different art form. Games before say 2020 had no issue telling emotional and compelling stories without this crutch in my opinion but that’s another conversation
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