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George R. R. Martin hopes to finish Winds of Winter this year

bitbydeath

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I’ll still pick this up whenever it releases.
Fuck the show.
I wrote hundreds and hundreds of pages of THE WINDS OF WINTER in 2020. The best year I’ve had on WOW since I began it. Why? I don’t know. Maybe the isolation. Or maybe I just got on a roll. Sometimes I do get on a roll.

I need to keep rolling, though. I still have hundreds of more pages to write to bring the novel to a satisfactory conclusion.

That’s what 2021 is for, I hope.

I will make no predictions on when I will finish. Every time I do, assholes on the internet take that as a “promise,” and then wait eagerly to crucify me when I miss the deadline. All I will say is that I am hopeful.
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Rest

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All these years later I still chuckle at what a fucking moron that guy is.
I mean, I'll probably buy it when it comes out. But I'm not holding my breath.
 
Paltheos

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The same way a New Year's resolutioner hopes to visit the gym more regularly, I'm sure.

If this book ever comes out, I'll read it. I've long since made peace with the reality that it might not and if it does it might not even be completed under Martin's pen.
 
ManaByte

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Alice Cooper Lol GIF
 
Goro Majima

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I think the problem is that HBO not only killed all public interest in Game of Thrones but also GRRM's interest to even finish writing the books.

Like even if it goes forever unfinished, there's the problem of A Dream of Spring still being completely absent with theoretically no manuscript or anything to complete posthumously.
 
Astral Dog

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DadEggs said:
People still interested in this shit?
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Well, the books are really enjoyable to read even if you have seen the show, easy recommendation to any fantasy fan, though if you only care about the ending because the tv one sucks i guess its not worth the wait 🤭
 
K

King_Mandu

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This isn't even the last book! George can eat a dick. We've heard this same song and dance for a decade now. Just admit you're too old or lost the fire to finish it properly. I can respect honesty but I can't respect this hustle of "writing so mach here guys!"

I get a lot of satisfaction in season 8 of the show being the final and only ending people will ever get. It's marvelous.
 
Rentahamster

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I wrote hundreds and hundreds of pages of THE WINDS OF WINTER in 2020. The best year I’ve had on WOW since I began it. Why? I don’t know. Maybe the isolation. Or maybe I just got on a roll. Sometimes I do get on a roll.

I need to keep rolling, though. I still have hundreds of more pages to write to bring the novel to a satisfactory conclusion.
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year 2020 = hundreds and hundreds
six months = hundreds

"I still have hundreds of more pages to write"

Winds of Winter will be out in 5 months confirmed
 
Pegasus Actual

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Cool blog post.

Orange man bad.

Hope to finish book in 2021.

But that's totally not a deadline and I totally didn't tell you guys multiple times that the fucking thing was just about done then never shipped it.

Look, the first 3 books were great. The next two a bit bloated and kind of a slog to get through. Then for better or worse (mostly worse) HBO had two total hacks vomit up a half-baked conclusion based on some notes that you probably imagined you would replace with an actual ending from an actual book. Let it go, tell us you won't be finishing the books and say you're sorry. Lay down your burdens.

Besides, chances are at least 600 pages of your Winds of Winter manuscript are you dreaming up an extended happy hour menu for Medieval Times and I'm not sure I can read any more of that shit.
 
eot

eot

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From 2016:

My publishers and I have been cognizant of these concerns, of course. We discussed some of them last spring, as the fifth season of the HBO series was winding down, and came up with a plan. We all wanted book six of A SONG OF ICE AND FIRE to come out before season six of the HBO show aired. Assuming the show would return in early April, that meant THE WINDS OF WINTER had to be published before the end of March, at the latest. For that to happen, my publishers told me, they would need the completed manuscript before the end of October. That seemed very do-able to me... in May. So there was the first deadline: Halloween.
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grrm.livejournal.com

Last Year (Winds of Winter)

The last post from the Lost Post, and the one you've all been waiting for. Back when this was one long long long post, before Live Journal sent it to the cornfield, I mentioned opening with Dickens' line, "It was the best of times, it was the worst of times." So it was for me in 2015. I've spent…
grrm.livejournal.com grrm.livejournal.com

Let it go
 
JokerMM

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guys, any fantasy books as good as this? honest question, no world ever pulled me as much as the GoT world but i gave up on it ever be finished a long time a go
 
gela94

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He just needs to stop eating cheetos and get on with writing, you would think somebody with his money could hire somebody who prepares healthy meals for him.
 
OneBigPuss

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He's old and fat so how much time does he have on this earth? It's understandable that he rather enjoy his life, fame and money than stress himself over a book.
 
Xenon

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I'm not sure I care that much anymore. It's hard to believe the show and the current political climate isn't going to affect his work.
 
Hari Seldon

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JokerMM said:
guys, any fantasy books as good as this? honest question, no world ever pulled me as much as the GoT world but i gave up on it ever be finished a long time a go
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Not really, other than obviously Tolkien. Your best two options if you have already read Tolkien most similar to GoT are:
- Wheel of Time: Similar politicking as GoT, better world building, worse characters, at times the character writing falls to shit tier levels (aka Brandon Sanderson characters all the time), but recovers.
- Red Rising: Similar R-rated characters as GoT. But dystopian instead of fantasy. First book is R rated hunger games with medieval style battles. The next two are similar politicking as GoT. The series goes on longer but I can only recommend the first 3, which are a self contained trilogy.
 
GingerNathan

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JokerMM said:
guys, any fantasy books as good as this? honest question, no world ever pulled me as much as the GoT world but i gave up on it ever be finished a long time a go
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Steven Erikson's Malazan book of the Fallen series is probably the best, although it can be a hard read with multiple story threads that can disappear for several books at a time, and the first book Gardens of the Moon isn't particularly well written. But they are brilliant, the pay off is great and unlike GoT the books are finished.
 
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LordCBH

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I mean I’ll buy it when it comes out but I just have my doubts that it’ll come out before he croaks twenty years from now
 
nkarafo

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What happens to the shitty 8th season of the show? Is it canon? Is it how Martin wrote it? Or he didn't write it yet?

Not very knowledgeable of the books, i just want to know if the original author is OK with the show ending the way it did.
 
DKehoe

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Tesseract said:
yap, his to make or break

doesn't owe anyone anything
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A novel, especially one that’s part of a sprawling series like that, isn’t something where X amount of hours sat at a desk directly results in a certain level of output. Inspiration strikes or it doesn’t. Sometimes you run up against plotting problems that take a while to mentally navigate. Martin has talked before about how he has had to write multiple versions of things to see what works and if everything lines up like it should. Would it be nice if he wrote quicker? Sure, but he doesn’t. And that’s just the reality of his writing. It’s not a production line where it’s on a fixed schedule.

I find the “he’s fat/lazy/going to die soon” comments weirdly vitriolic. Especially coming from people who are presumably fans of his work.
 
Tesseract

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DKehoe said:
A novel, especially one that’s part of a sprawling series like that, isn’t something where X amount of hours sat at a desk directly results in a certain level of output. Inspiration strikes or it doesn’t. Sometimes you run up against plotting problems that take a while to mentally navigate. Martin has talked before about how he has had to write multiple versions of things to see what works and if everything lines up like it should. Would it be nice if he wrote quicker? Sure, but he doesn’t. And that’s just the reality of his writing. It’s not a production line where it’s on a fixed schedule.

I find the “he’s fat/lazy/going to die soon” comments weirdly vitriolic. Especially coming from people who are presumably fans of his work.
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i find it weird in all cases where people think the output of another is owed to them, be they individuals or corporations regardless of promises made, road maps, delivery dates, relationships, whatever

the fat and lazy might die stuff is at a level worse than that, reeks of entitlement or quotas, false declarations of ownership
 
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