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LegendOfKage

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He's a paid idiot. If he's not paid... he's even bigger idiot.
All you tubers are paid, at least once they monetize their channels. And once they're depending on that money, yes, that absolutely influences how they speak about the products that they cover.

No way man, it's just that every single new character CHANGES EVERYTHING and is better than the last.

That said, he does have good info, but i wish he'd just post his .txt file that he always reads off of so I could skip all of the hyperbole.
You laugh, and to an extent I laugh and agree along with you, but that really is the case due to powercreep. If they don't make new characters more powerful all the time, people will just stick with who they have. Anyhow, I mostly just posted it as a way of saying that they might be taking away some of the sexier and more unique elements of the character, but at least they're also making sure she will compete with some of the best damage dealers.

And yeah, 28 minutes? No way. I just skip around in his videos and read the .txt file at my own pace.
 
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Is there any Xiao constelation worthy?
Guy is a 1 trick pony, leave him be at C0.

If they don't make new characters more powerful all the time, people will just stick with who they have.
So far they did a terrible job lol. If you ask me, there's not enough powercreep. And I'm not talking strictly about the numbers, no. But look at Cocogoat, Klee, Venti, hell C6 Noelle slaps too... Where's a comparable 5☆? Most new heroes has some serious downsides. Some may call it "balancing" , I call it a headache. Especially considering the fact that previously we were getting all around strong/er more useful heroes.


they might be taking away some of the sexier and more unique elements of the character, but
...but that's the whole point of the new characters haha. Plus who needs another flat DMG dealer anyway. Her previous talent was amazing for bosses/more annoying single enemies. Now it's up to influencers like that guy to sell us on that "buff" lol.


No way. I just skip around in his videos and read the .txt file at my own pace.
He's a slow reader, that's for sure lol
 

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Plus who needs another flat DMG dealer anyway. Her previous talent was amazing for bosses/more annoying single enemies. Now it's up to influencers like that guy to sell us on that "buff" lol.
I would be shocked if the developers were ever going to allow the last 30 percent of every bosses health to be eliminated in one hit. In fact, the developers have made sure a lot of useful abilities can't be used with bosses. An attack buff and cryo application after dashing seems like a nice change to me.
 

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Skill DMG: 179.2% -> 127%
Aurous Blaze Explosion DMG: 129.6% -> 122%
CD: 20 -> 15
Energy 80 -> 60
Very good to see. I'd take being able to use a burst more often any day over it doing more damage. Waiting for your abilities to come back isn't my idea of fun.
 

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Skill DMG: 179.2% -> 127%
Aurous Blaze Explosion DMG: 129.6% -> 122%
CD: 20 -> 15
Energy 80 -> 60


OH SHIT


Does this mean MHY is watching this thread and taking my advice? That's exactly what I wanted from her kit. (40 would be better, but I'll take 60).

Good stuff.
 

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last 30 percent of every bosses health to be eliminated in one hit
More like make their last 30 % fall in line with previous 70%, as we are constantly getting enemies who put shields instead of dying. With her old skill she could delete trash mobs while bosses could suffer from multiple "below 30%" finishers. She never killed 30% hp bosses in 1 hit. Besides we already have EULA and Hu Tao who can pretty much delete bosses with 100% of HP lol.


Very good to see. I'd take being able to use a burst more often any day over it doing more damage.

That's exactly what I wanted from her kit.
Damn support lovers.
 
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Hey there, lads! I believe this is my first time posting in this thread. I'm looking for some help.

Ok, so the thing is this is pretty much my best team and I'm having a horrible time in the Spiral Abyss 12-2-2. My main DPS is Eula C0, and Diona C0 has her special charged and ready as well. XL C1 and Fischl C2 are both built as sub-DPS. I've read that the best strategy is to straight for the ducks first, then the mage, and after that the rest of the enemies one by one, but I always end up getting overwhelmed at the beginning and die soon after I kill the ducks (if I'm lucky enough to do so) and start focusing on the rest.

Any last resort tips before I give up? My other team is ZL, Diluc, Kaeya (all C0) and C5 XQ. At first I tried to beat the water cunts with this team, but I found out that Diluc's damage is not that good vs them and was advised to swap the teams around. This is now my last day to clear this, and I don't think the new Anemo-related upcoming bonuses will benefit my team much, so I'm motivated to at least finish 12-3 if possible so I can get the trophy sooner rather than later.
 
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Hey there, lads! I believe this is my first time posting in this thread. I'm looking for some help.

Ok, so the thing is this is pretty much my best team and I'm having a horrible time in the Spiral Abyss 12-2-2. My main DPS is Eula C0, and Diona C0 has her special charged and ready as well. XL C1 and Fischl C2 are both built as sub-DPS. I've read that the best strategy is to straight for the ducks first, then the mage, and after that the rest of the enemies one by one, but I always end up getting overwhelmed at the beginning and die soon after I kill the ducks (if I'm lucky enough to do so) and start focusing on the rest.

Any last resort tips before I give up? My other team is ZL, Diluc, Kaeya (all C0) and C5 XQ. At first I tried to beat the water cunts with this team, but I found out that Diluc's damage is not that good vs them and was advised to swap the teams around. This is now my last day to clear this, and I don't think the new Anemo-related upcoming bonuses will benefit my team much, so I'm motivated to at least finish 12-3 if possible so I can get the trophy sooner rather than later.
You sound like you have a good strategy, it's probably going to come down to artifacts and some good luck. Are you using Sacrificial Bow on Diona, and do you have her HP as high as you can get it? That will allow you for the most uptime on your cryo shield which could help survivability.

It seems like your biggest obstacle there is HP recovery too, since Diona only heals the on-field character. I personally have a healing % hat on mine, but that Maiden set with HP substats could be good too.

I feel like in Abyss it's just about getting that one good run sometimes.
 
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You sound like you have a good strategy, it's probably going to come down to artifacts and some good luck. Are you using Sacrificial Bow on Diona, and do you have her HP as high as you can get it? That will allow you for the most uptime on your cryo shield which could help survivability.

It seems like your biggest obstacle there is HP recovery too, since Diona only heals the on-field character. I personally have a healing % hat on mine, but that Maiden set with HP substats could be good too.

I feel like in Abyss it's just about getting that one good run sometimes.
Aye, she's got a sac bow r1 and her HP is 22.6k. Both her Q and E are at 6 or 7, the max available talent lvl for level 70/80 charas. I was thinking that perhaps I should restart so I enter Chamber 2 with both Eula and Diona at full health? I don't know if that'd make a significant enough difference, though. And both her (Diona's) sands and crown are HP% IIRC. She heals around 3.5-4k per effect... so, while it's quite useful, her shield breaks down while I try to attack and/or dodge and the damage evens up the heals at the end.

I was also considering moving ZL to Eula's team instead of XL, but that would leave my weaker Diluc with no shield and he'd probably not make it past even the first chamber. And that's not even taking into account the Lectors from 12-3... I think I'm fucked lol
 
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Playing through the 3rd phase of the Klee event (which has been enjoyable) and it's really apparent how much more time we've spent with Mondstadt characters vs Liyue (other than Zhongli). I realize that we had one-off character quests during their banners for Xiao and Ganyu, but I don't think Ningguang and Keqing have appeared since end of the Liyue archon quest, which released in November. Madame Ping has more screen time than most of the playable Liyue characters at this point.
 

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Did any of you guys find Diluc or Albedo on the islands after today's story quest? I found all of the others except for the two of them, including the last 4 conches. Interesting lore about that upside down island, looks like my previous guess was way off.

Also, what are the new samurai boss's "phantom attacks" specifically? It's the only achievement I didn't get on my first kill. Fun fight though, no invulnerability and a couple of tricky moves. Better than any of the cubes or flowers. I'm guessing that material he drops when you spend resin is used to ascend Kazuha.
 

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Hey there, lads! I believe this is my first time posting in this thread. I'm looking for some help.

Ok, so the thing is this is pretty much my best team and I'm having a horrible time in the Spiral Abyss 12-2-2. My main DPS is Eula C0, and Diona C0 has her special charged and ready as well. XL C1 and Fischl C2 are both built as sub-DPS. I've read that the best strategy is to straight for the ducks first, then the mage, and after that the rest of the enemies one by one, but I always end up getting overwhelmed at the beginning and die soon after I kill the ducks (if I'm lucky enough to do so) and start focusing on the rest.

Any last resort tips before I give up? My other team is ZL, Diluc, Kaeya (all C0) and C5 XQ. At first I tried to beat the water cunts with this team, but I found out that Diluc's damage is not that good vs them and was advised to swap the teams around. This is now my last day to clear this, and I don't think the new Anemo-related upcoming bonuses will benefit my team much, so I'm motivated to at least finish 12-3 if possible so I can get the trophy sooner rather than later.

I'm curious if going down a world tier affects the difficulty of the Abyss Corridor.
 

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Also, what are the new samurai boss's "phantom attacks" specifically? It's the only achievement I didn't get on my first kill. Fun fight though, no invulnerability and a couple of tricky moves. Better than any of the cubes or flowers. I'm guessing that material he drops when you spend resin is used to ascend Kazuha.

I'm assuming his phantom attacks is any attacks that has that transparent light blue/grey colour.

Meaning when he slashes diagonally and the sword spits out that light blue/grey colour energy. You probably don't want to be near his phantom decoy either as that also does phantom attacks.

I got the achievement without trying, so not sure what strategy I used. But I'm a heavy shield user. So I used Diona's shield throughout the fight, so either I was lucky to avoid all his phantom attacks, or his phantom attacks does not go through shields. *shrug*
 
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really apparent how much more time we've spent with Mondstadt characters vs Liyue (other than Zhongli).
Not only that, but I also always teleport back to the 1st city because it's way better planned and way more convenient. Plus its weekly/hunting quests are less annoying to me. So yeah, I hope that Inazuma will finally make me to relocate my base after a whole year...
 

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10 are even too much, wonder if they're gonna expand the isles.
Wish they'd just expand the load within each area instead. I didn't realize how limiting it was until recently when you're actually trying to make something that looks good. I get that it's probably a RAM issue, but the overworld has tons of random shit in it as you're traveling, there has to be a way to do it. I could understand it being harder if there were more interactive furniture, but there are only a handful of pieces that even move/animate, much less interact with the player.
 

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After a month now.

This game is great, however, I have no mats. People with hundreds of hero's wits. I have no idea how they do that. I pushing Eula right now and her 5 star weapon, everything I find is going to that. I don't want to spend money outside of the 90 daily primogems and the battle pass.

Today I got my last 4 star. I wanted Ningguang for my geo team, but how the hell am I supposed to level her? I hope Inazuma has a lot of chests as Liyue did.
 
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After a month now.

This game is great, however, I have no mats. People with hundreds of hero's wits. I have no idea how they do that. I pushing Eula right now and her 5 star weapon, everything I find is going to that. I don't want to spend money outside of the 90 daily primogems and the battle pass.

Today I got my last 4 star. I wanted Ningguang for my geo team, but how the hell am I supposed to level her? I hope Inazuma has a lot of chests as Liyue did.
Did you level all your characters up? Are you also running out of mora?

Like Fake Fake said, you'll need to start doing blue (Revelation) leylines for EXP books. What World Level are you currently at? That will determine how many EXP books you get from the leylines. You can check the leyline rewards at the various world levels here.
 
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Did you level all your characters up? Are you also running out of mora?

Like Fake Fake said, you'll need to start doing blue leylines for EXP books. What World Level are you currently at? That will determine how many EXP books you get from the leylines. You can check the leyline rewards at the various world levels here.
World-level 6

No, Level 80 are only Zhongli, Noelle and Razor. Eula is 76, Rosaria and Yangfei 70. Barbara, Diona and Geo MC are 60. Xinyan level 50 and Sucrose, Fischl and Bennett on 40. Rest is between 30 and 20.

No, I have about 400k mora
 
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World-level 6

No, Level 80 are only Zhongli, Noelle and Razor. Eula is 76, Rosaria and Yangfei 70. Barbara, Diona and Geo MC are 60. Xinyan level 50 and Sucrose, Fischl and Bennett on 40. Rest ist between 30 and 20.

No, I have about 400k mora
I see. At least at WL6 you can get max rewards for doing the blue leylines. They cost 20 resin each, so keep that in mind. I guess if you're desperate for EXP books, you could dedicate a couple of days worth of resin to build up some mats. That would be tedious, but the leyline challenges are pretty easy and there's not really an easy way to get EXP books outside of waiting for events.
 

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If you get tired, transform 40 resins into condensed resins and use to beat the ley line exp book challenge. Will take less time.

Just one BIG ALERT that you can't use condensed resin on world boss, so keep in mind before do it.
 

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Baby steps. Level up your main team and then slowly level up the rest.
With your main team you battle, explore and farm itens for the rest. When you feel like its safe, then move on to the next characters.
 
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After a month now.

This game is great, however, I have no mats. People with hundreds of hero's wits. I have no idea how they do that. I pushing Eula right now and her 5 star weapon, everything I find is going to that. I don't want to spend money outside of the 90 daily primogems and the battle pass.

Today I got my last 4 star. I wanted Ningguang for my geo team, but how the hell am I supposed to level her? I hope Inazuma has a lot of chests as Liyue did.

I used to be in the same boat as you. Not going to lie, this is a GaaS, so there will always be grinding and busy work.

But here is some stuff I did that helped:
-The higher your world tier is, the better reward you get for the Open Ley Line Blossoms (Mora, exp books, weapon exp). Apparently world tier 5 and up is where you want to be.
-If you haven't heard of "Condensed Resin", I suggest you google it. Made grinding for material less painful.

Hope that helps.
 

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Well, at least Eula is now level 80. All aboard the Barbara level 70 train choo choo!

btw. somebody from Europe playing here. I can really use a teapot friend.
 

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New water catalyst render. I'm happy she's staying 4*, I need another Hydro character and she's cute. Wish she was any other weapon, but what can you do?



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Her transformation mode

Just kidding, new abyss or fatui enemy.

Man with the site crashes, it finally feels like a GAF E3.
 
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