100% agree. I have the 48”cx and it’s amazing for gaming on my pc. Especially hooked up to my 3080ti.
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Forget upgrading your GPU for better graphics, try upgrading your TV instead
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Bo_Hazem
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In that case you might like Sony's new InZone miniLED 4K monitor.
The bigger screen size also increases your enjoyment and immersion by a significant degree. I'd much rather play games on a bigger screen than some tiny monitor.
Rocco Schiavone
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Mr Reasonable
Completely Unreasonable
MaxwellParrish
Member
This makes little sense because, relatevely speaking, OLED panels are a better tecnology in SDR then HDR . While for HDR you can argue that they can't reach enough brightness and just a tiny bit short in saturation, they are pretty much absolute first of the class in SDR, quite close to Sony professional CTR monitors.
Regarding what OP says I gotta say you still need the power and performance to drive that display, and OLED displays won't come cheap as well. In some cases the money is better spend on a GPU upgrade. Of course image quality is still better, but shit graphics are still shit when you don't have the GPU... missing effects, low resolution, low FPS, etc. All the same on an OLED. So I don't know if it's good advice. Depends heavily on your gaming habits and games you play and existing hardware.
I've tried 7 monitors the past three years, all different panel types ranging from 300 to 750 EUR and once you've been looking at OLED none of the other technologies, no matter the price category, ain't cut it anymore.
Since I've find the bad viewing angles (again, even while sitting center) so distracting I went for a new IPS monitor until OLED monitors become more affordable. Because my using habits favour bright content (dark content like horror games etc, or dark content in otherwise bright games, make only a fraction) I rather deal with milky black corners and edges in certain scenarios than with awful colours and tone shifts there in any scenario. This is distracting in any scenario and also effects blacks.
Anyways, I find every tech having downsides and compromises, but OLED having the fewest for me and my gaming and watching habits.
Sorry, but that shit has visible colour and brightness shifts even when sitting center and looking at the edges and corners.
I've tried 7 monitors the past three years, all different panel types ranging from 300 to 750 EUR and once you've been looking at OLED none of the other technologies, no matter the price category, ain't cut it anymore.
Since I've find the bad viewing angles (again, even while sitting center) so distracting I went for a new IPS monitor until OLED monitors become more affordable. Because my using habits favour bright content (dark content like horror games etc, or dark content in otherwise bright games, make only a fraction) I rather deal with milky black corners and edges in certain scenarios than with awful colours and tone shifts there in any scenario. This is distracting in any scenario and also effects blacks.
Anyways, I find every tech having downsides and compromises, but OLED having the fewest for me and my gaming and watching habits.
pleaseinsertdisctwo
Member
First of all: I have been abusing my body immensely in the past month which is none of your business.
But fine.
But fine.
JackSparr0w
Banned
Then get an OLED monitor?
Quezacolt
Member
Got an LG CX last year, and i use it as TV/Monitor, and it's been an amazing experience, to the point where every other tv i've seen so far, that isnt oled, looks like crap without the contrast a Oled brings.
The HDR experience has also been amazing. Sure, it might not reach the peak brightness of other tv's, but the contrast helps.
Playing Tsushima with HDR on was mindblowing.
The HDR experience has also been amazing. Sure, it might not reach the peak brightness of other tv's, but the contrast helps.
Playing Tsushima with HDR on was mindblowing.
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
This cat came from a small 1080p LCD monitor and is shocked that new large TV panels are better?
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Really?
Fredrik
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Yeah that’s why I refuse to get rid of my old Sony XE9305 in the living room. I don’t care that I don’t have true black colors or whatever, it looks awesome for HDR.
Cherrypepsi
Member
I agree with the OP, Cyberpunk really came alive when I played it on my LG OLED compared to my IPS monitor... it doesnt matter how new your monitor is or how advanced... it looks absolutely lifeless compared to an OLED.
I said this in another thread, I feel like a lot of this effect comes from having a glossy panel ;-) but that's a discussion many pc gamers are not ready for!
I said this in another thread, I feel like a lot of this effect comes from having a glossy panel ;-) but that's a discussion many pc gamers are not ready for!
nightmare-slain
Member
my TVs are LG OLEDs with 4K 120Hz gsync and my monitor is 1440p 165hz gsync.
i don't know what would be considered an upgrade at the moment.
my GPU is almost 4 years old and it's still going strong (RTX 2080). i'd like a new PC but i'm going back to consoles.
i don't know what would be considered an upgrade at the moment.
my GPU is almost 4 years old and it's still going strong (RTX 2080). i'd like a new PC but i'm going back to consoles.
Whitecrow
Banned
Thats what happens when you game on a crappy monitor.
I have everything. Oled C9, a curved monitor 240hz with 3000:1 contrast, and an ips.
Ips have perfect gamma but low contrast, but still looks very good. The other monitor have more pop and looks only slightly better, but I cant tell color accuracy is not there like the ips.
And the OLED is just brighter, bigger, and amazing contrast, but without blowing up the colors at full brightness, the IQ difference is not that big.
I have everything. Oled C9, a curved monitor 240hz with 3000:1 contrast, and an ips.
Ips have perfect gamma but low contrast, but still looks very good. The other monitor have more pop and looks only slightly better, but I cant tell color accuracy is not there like the ips.
And the OLED is just brighter, bigger, and amazing contrast, but without blowing up the colors at full brightness, the IQ difference is not that big.
Tomi
Member
8k tv, they are out
vaibhavpisal
Member
You really cannot compare a $200 monitor with a $1000 OLED.
If you pay same amount for monitor, you will get same quality.
If you pay same amount for monitor, you will get same quality.
Quezacolt
Member
Not really. With many monitors, you have to pay morew than what you pay for an oled to get decent hdr.
Honestly, monitors only win in 2 aspects nowadays. Refresh rate and choice for resolution/size.
vaibhavpisal
Member
This is changing now. Samsung Neo g7/g8, Sony inzone monitors have full array local dimming features.
They are not anymore expensive than oleds.
sono
Gold Member
Um where
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
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OCUK have 3060Ti and RTX3070s in stock
Vasto
Member
I tried hooking my PC up to a Vizio QLED that I bought in 2019 and I can honesty say that it looked so much better on that QLED. The image was brighter and the colors were deep and vibrant and that was just on a cheap Vizio. I can only imagine what it would look like on a OLED or high end QLED.
nightmare-slain
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i know but 8K doesn't make any sense right now. there are very little sources for 8K. at best i might be able to watch some YouTube videos. streaming services like netflix/amazon etc, which is most of my usage, is 4K max. blurays don't go above 4K. and gaming is a long way away from 8K.
technically yes i could get a huge ass 8K tv but it's a complete waste of money. 4K HDR 120Hz panels are about the highest spec you should get right now and are at reasonable prices. Anything over than is a waste of money.
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Even a higher tier 1080p tv with the right settings looks amazing.
Yall need to learn how to properly calibrate your monitors/TVs.
OLEDs probably have better settings out of the box is all.
Also many people bought those massive shit tier TVs are finally buying good tier TVs and it’s like they’re seeing color for the first time. It’s hilarious.
People also in general like a picture that isn’t accurate or calibrated properly.
Yall need to learn how to properly calibrate your monitors/TVs.
OLEDs probably have better settings out of the box is all.
Also many people bought those massive shit tier TVs are finally buying good tier TVs and it’s like they’re seeing color for the first time. It’s hilarious.
People also in general like a picture that isn’t accurate or calibrated properly.
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BennyBlanco
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I gotta agree with OP. I have my PC hooked up to a 1440p monitor and an LG CX. Games just look way better on the OLED. It leads to first world problems like playing Doom Eternal on a controller because it just looks so nice on the TV, but plays 10x better on m+kb.
Hugare
Member
I went from a 4K 40' VA panel to a 1080p 24' IPS screen and I'm very happy
4K is a waste, even for these consoles. They dont reach native resolution, and when they do, its by reconstruction.
Most games are 1440p and they look so much better supersamples to 1080p than displayed on 4K
With a 24' monitor I got supersampled image, no jeggies at all, better colors (IPS) and 120 hz
But I plan to upgrade for OLED when these screens with HDMI 2.1 support doesnt cost a small fortune anymore around here.
4K is a waste, even for these consoles. They dont reach native resolution, and when they do, its by reconstruction.
Most games are 1440p and they look so much better supersamples to 1080p than displayed on 4K
With a 24' monitor I got supersampled image, no jeggies at all, better colors (IPS) and 120 hz
But I plan to upgrade for OLED when these screens with HDMI 2.1 support doesnt cost a small fortune anymore around here.
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
Honestly I think a big ass 4K screen is worth it even if you have to turn the settings down a bit.
Back in 2016 I upgraded from a 24” 1080p to a 32” 4K G-Sync monitor. My GTX 970 wasn’t enough to hit 60 FPS in every game but it was still awesome. Playing Doom in 4K was a “holy shit” moment for me.
TBH I think that was bigger than any GPU upgrade I’ve done.
Back in 2016 I upgraded from a 24” 1080p to a 32” 4K G-Sync monitor. My GTX 970 wasn’t enough to hit 60 FPS in every game but it was still awesome. Playing Doom in 4K was a “holy shit” moment for me.
TBH I think that was bigger than any GPU upgrade I’ve done.
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LavitzSlambert
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Agreed OP. I used to love PC gaming but it got way too expensive for a quality monitor and other hardware. I ended up spending that kind of money upgrading my home theater system with an OLED TV and 5.1 surround. My SO loves TV shows, backseat gaming, and playing some coop so it’s getting a lot more use. Let me say there is a huge difference in quality, though I would never get an OLED monitor for static content.
fatmarco
Member
Agree with OP. I bought an OLED recently and the difference is incredible.
I had an older 1080p LCD tv and a Xbox One X when I transitioned to the Series X, and while there was an upgrade it wasn't a truly transformative experience, but when I got my Panasonic OLED it was a generational leap. You learn very quickly how important having black blacks is to an image.
Anything that isn't at that level feels like you're hamstringing the games visuals.
I had an older 1080p LCD tv and a Xbox One X when I transitioned to the Series X, and while there was an upgrade it wasn't a truly transformative experience, but when I got my Panasonic OLED it was a generational leap. You learn very quickly how important having black blacks is to an image.
Anything that isn't at that level feels like you're hamstringing the games visuals.
Kupfer
Member
Don't know what LCD monitor you use but did you calibrate it with the right ICC profile?
Most people just use their monitors / TVs out of the box without even looking into the settings.
Have a look
Of course OLED > LCD, but you can optimize LCD quiet much.
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Kuranghi
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We were talking about TV's originally, the person I replied to mentioned "fast response time panels", which could apply to a TV as well.
GreatnessRD
Member
Still patiently waiting for an OLED monitor of the 27"-34" range that doesn't cost 2,000 united murica dollars.
Nocturno999
Member
But then, you'll haver to upgrade GPU to reach that new TV's 4k resolution and high frame rate.
Rockondevil
Member
I have a 13/14 year old Sony Bravia TV and my monitor is a cheap 9 year old Samsung.
Probably should update someday...
Probably should update someday...
CuNi
Member
I have a 240hz TN and for me smooth games --> more vibrant colors.
Everyone has different priorities.
BusierDonkey
Member
I saved money on new hardware by going to the eye doctor and getting glasses, now my games and real life don't look like N64 textures!
60FPS is good enough for me.
DLSS does wonder in allowing me to play latest games with my 2070S.
I will indeed update my graphics card, but it doesn't necessarily improve visuals other than allowing a higher framerate.
I'm tempted to try out Samsung's QN90B since I am able to get a heavy discount on their TV. I know it's not OLED quality but it seems to be a very good TV, and no fear of burn in.
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64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
Yall say OLED this and HDR that, but the vast majority of good looking oleds are over 800. No thanks
reinking
Gold Member
I have started shopping for a TV and was looking at the LG next to (I believe it was a Samsung) micro LED. The micro LED looked 2x better. I am most likely going micro LED on my next purchase.. It is just as you said, the brights where just not as bright and the darks did not look that far off to my eyes.I know a lot of people don't agree and thats ok with me but OLED doesn't get bright enough for true HDR (FOR ME, ITS MY OPINION)
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
I honestly will pick my Samsung QN90a over my OLED any day.
Granted my OLED is an older model in a C9 but the QN90a just makes brights explode on the screen
I use my PC with a tv. A Wireless keyboard and mouse work just fine for that.
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playsaves3
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300$ gpus are mediocre especially if you want 4k
Once I picked up the s95b I knew there was no going back, QD-OLED feels like a generational leap to me. I've never owned such a controversial tv, and haven't really jumped into the online debate. And for some reason, whenever I go through the calibration settings on avsforums the picture looks awful. This was the same case when I was trying to dial in my last TV. I got it to where I like it and haven't looked back... games look insane on it. I do feel like there is a color difference in Dolby Vision, and I do miss the feature for watching streaming content.
I like the tech so much so that I had to pick up the Alienware QD-OLED gaming monitor without regret or delay. These screens make my LG C9 look washed out and blue by comparison. I've had several people look at side-by-side performance, and there's no contest.
I like the tech so much so that I had to pick up the Alienware QD-OLED gaming monitor without regret or delay. These screens make my LG C9 look washed out and blue by comparison. I've had several people look at side-by-side performance, and there's no contest.