mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Why would I want to waste my money like that? Having a PS5 for me gives me mostly what I what.
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Final Fantasy 16 won’t be delayed ‘unless a meteor falls on Japan’ | PC Version could come eventually after six months on PS5
Why would I want to waste my money like that? Having a PS5 for me gives me mostly what I what.
remember_spinal
Banned
So a spinoff made by Team Ninja, thats what you’re setting your expectations for future final fantasy titles on?
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Very happy they are optimizing this for PS5 and not spending tons of resources making it run on the two XBoxes and PCs. Looks like it led to a pretty smooth development cycle.
The results so far make it look like the decision is paying off. Can’t wait to see some more of the exploration/world gameplay.
The results so far make it look like the decision is paying off. Can’t wait to see some more of the exploration/world gameplay.
Gaiff
Member
Still part of the FF series and still published by SE. Mainline FF games don't come around all that often and when FFXV was released, SE was still releasing games a bit later on PC. It wasn't until recently that they started embracing the platform and releasing semi-competent ports/pc versions.
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
Dear lord,
if you’re going to drop a meteor on Japan, please wait until after Final Fantasy XVI launches.
Sincerely,
DonkeyPunchJr
if you’re going to drop a meteor on Japan, please wait until after Final Fantasy XVI launches.
Sincerely,
DonkeyPunchJr
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Owning all systems doesn't stop biases and persecution complexes on here though. Clearly.
DarthPutin
Member
Maybe we should believe developer instead of suggesting that he's a liar. And if he's telling the truth, it sounds like simultaneous release would just delay release of the game on all platoforms. So the only damage to PC players is FOMO, and otherwise everyone would have to wait till 2024 in shared misery.
NonPhixion
Member
Could have mentioned the Criss Core remaster too! These spin-off games certainly help your “pc day 1” point. I stand corrected.
remember_spinal
Banned
So you’re just gonna ignore FF7 Remake?
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Gaiff
Member
You mean the other one Sony secured as an exclusive?
Now the goalposts has been moved. SE releases damn near every one of their games on PC on day 1 except a select few and it's because they just decide that they wanna optimize it for Playstation. Nothing to do with Sony moneyhatting them. It's not like we don't have a precedent for that.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
6 million at 70 dollars just on ps5 ain't happening imo but ...fingers crossed for square.
To be honest, this exclusivity will have cost Sony a small fortune so they will probs pull the funds back.
Punished Miku
Gold Member
It does help though. I dont have to wonder about if I can play this game, and its derailing yet another thread.
yazenov
Member
I hate to rub it in your face but I am rich as fuck and money is no issue for me. Buying all consoles is still a waste of my money as I won't have the time to use all of them. I bearly play games on the PS5 and PC.
Not everybody has free time like you.
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This is pathetic btw. Don’t make your colours so obvious.
NonPhixion
Member
Goal posts? My questions was how many Final Fantasy games are released on PC day one. We’ve figured out the answer is 2. I’m here talking about the IP in question, you’re here talking about everything else.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
1- Shows the game running "optimized" on PC...
2- Says it will take 6 months more to optimize the PC version...
3- Profit... from double dipers.
2- Says it will take 6 months more to optimize the PC version...
3- Profit... from double dipers.
Punished Miku
Gold Member
My comment is really just aimed at people that seem very worried about whether or not they can play every potential exclusive. If this doesn't apply to you, then congratulations.
Danjin44
The nicest person on this forum
I don’t own all systems but people can still be reasonable and not be “fanboy” about it.
Still jealous for Hi-Fi Rush
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Lethal01
Member
Everything I said remains the truth and this literally backs up my points, the game is made on pc so ofcourse you can get pc footage even though you don't have a "PC version" and regardless of your plans to release one.
Them saying that they need to do a lot of work to get a pc version ready 6 months after release only proves this.
"Captured on PC" does not mean "has pc version"
Zelda: Breath of the wild had footage that was "captured on pc" so did Mario Odyssey.
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Gaiff
Member
But isn't that the point? There have been what, 2 major FF games in the past 6 years or so? We know Sony had rights to FF7R and this one as well. Almost every SE game gets released on PC day 1 except their flagship franchise that magically doesn't and it's because all of a sudden, they wanna optimize it? SE doesn't benefit from that, they're a publisher so a day 1 release on all platforms is what is best for them.
I'm saying that based on precedents and what we know, it's far more likely that the deal with Sony causes the PC version to get delayed rather than SE wanting to focus on a single platform.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
On a personal level, sure. On the Gaf persona and internet levels... ehhhh.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Yeah maybe that is more hoping more than anything. But I can see it doing 4 million at full price at a minimum. And it wouldn't surprise me if Sony gave Square $50 million in marketing a exclusive rights money for it.
Gaiff
Member
Don't remember this. Screenshots?
Punished Miku
Gold Member
On every level it obviously helps. If you want to play a game so bad, buy it and play it. That's been the case since the NES vs. the Genesis. Nowhere did I say this makes you a zen monk with zero preferences or biases, but hopefully it can allow you to get through a single thread without shitting the bed complaining about the same shit for years.
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rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
+ XIV. Give the PC version to the FF XIV team as they are competent enough to optimize and deliver day 1.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Punished Miku
Gold Member
What did I do exactly that you're so against? You obviously have a problem with how I act, so just say it instead of vaguely hinting at it over and over.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Why are you being so defensive? I am having a general conversation with you, speaking in generals as far as online gaming communities, especially here. Not you directly.
Klosshufvud
Member
One might wonder why a AAA game has issues being developed on two platforms simultaneously. Are they contractually prohibited to start PC-specific optimizations before PS5 launch? I say optimizations because there is no way they aren't already developing this game around a PC-like environment. The initial trailer was after all from a PC build. If it's a matter of resources, then it's odd that other third-party games seem to do just fine delivering multiplat releases.
Lethal01
Member
They were used for promotional reasons, I specifically remember people talking about it when Nintendo released "4k screenshots of BoTW" Months before it's release.
Sadly searching "4k breath of the wild screenshots" now just points me to tons and tons of links of Breath of the wild running on an emulator so it seems like finding it would take a chunk of my time that I honestly just don't want to spend on internet arguments. So if you can't take my word for it fine. We will both just have to life thinking we are right when someone else think we are wrong, a tragedy to be sure.
Anyway, never had any issue with people thinking a PC version extremely likely, I did too, I just find, "captured on pc" to be extremely weak evidence.
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Gaiff
Member
One has proof, the other one goes "trust me bro" but by all means, keep thinking you are right.
Punished Miku
Gold Member
Why are you being so defensive? I am having a general conversation with you, speaking in generals as far as online gaming communities, especially here. Not you directly.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
I think timed exclusivity is worse than owning a product and keeping it to yourself. But I guess it depends on what lens you want to look through.
Lethal01
Member
You've shared no proof. The difference is I actually have the game's creator backing up what I'm saying.
but here
This is one of the 4k screenshots.
Here is a link dated back to 2016.
It was from Nintendo's E3 press kit, with a disclaimer that these shots were not captured on WiiU and not refletive of the final game.
However if this is not enough for you it would be pretty easy to find other games that had PC footage but never a PC version, there's really no reason to get hung up on this specific example.
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Gaiff
Member
You've shared no proof. The difference is I actually have the game's creator backing up what I'm saying.
but here
This is one of the 4k screenshots.
Here is a link dated back to 2016.
It was from Nintendo's E3 press kit, with a disclaimer that these shots were not captured on WiiU and not refletive of the final game.
However if this is not enough for you it would be pretty easy to find other games that had PC footage but never a PC version, there's really no reason to get hung up on this specific example.
The proof is literally in the trailer where there is a nice little "captured on PC".
Where do these screenshots say "captured on PC"? They don't because there was never any PC version in the work unlike Final Fantasy. You got a trailer nicely saying "Captured on PC", a month later the dev comes out and talks about the PC version yet you go "this doesn't mean there will be a PC version" and your counter-argument is BOTW without any mention of it being captured on PC anywhere.
Brilliant argument.
Lethal01
Member
To which I said
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No a month later the dev talks about how they DON'T have a PC and they can't get one into an acceptable state for release in 6 months. Which directly supports what I was saying.
So again, you've only posted proof that being "captured on pc" does not mean they have a proper pc version. Every attempt you make to hurt my points has only made them stronger and it's comedic that you can't see that.
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Gaiff
Member
This isn't the argument. The argument is that no developer ever releases a trailer with "captured on PC" without a PC version. Furthermore, who knows where those screenshots of BOTW were taken? Was it a Switch dev kit? Pre-rendered footage? In-engine screenshots that were then upscaled to high-resolution screenshots? It's cute that you say "this is PC footage" without actual proof.
No, he never said that they don't have a PC version. You just made that up.
Your stronger points by bringing BOTW "captured on PC screenshots", and then blatantly lying about what the developer said? Sure. Cute that a PC version is coming and we had PC footage yet the "Captured on PC" wasn't proof enough.
James Sawyer Ford
Member
If you don’t have free time, then you should have no problem waiting on a PC port
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FoxMcChief
Gold Member
I think I’ll rent this down the road when I get one of those $1 a month offers from GameFly. I get them them 2-3 times a year.
Lethal01
Member
If you think that, for example a game running in the Unreal Engine editor is by definition of pc version of the game then we agree.
However I don't see that as a pc version at all since it can be so unoptimized and buggy that it could take a year to get it in an acceptable state for release.
Yoshida just stated that the game is not in a state where it could be ready for pc release in 6 months so I wouldn't say that a real pc version exists or that they've really put any time into making one.
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Tripolygon
Banned
There is no lens where eventually being able to play a game 3, 6 or 12 months later on my platform of choice is worse down outright not being able to play the game at all.
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
Pixel Remasters still not out on consoles and have the awful font that was modded out day 1
Raonak
Banned
So you'd prefer they delay the PS5 version for the PC release to get ready? Or release the PC version even more undercooked than it already will be?
Even though games are developed on PC, those are development spec PCs. for an actual full release for PC, you have to literally take every configuration into account, not to mention flesh out all the various options that PC games have, and then do the testing ontop of that.
The optimisation requirements is simply far easier for a single platform.
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Yoboman
Member
15 people on Xbox are fuming