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Fighting Games Weekly | Aug 25-31 | Gather Around The FGW Family Tree

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Week of August 25th to the 31st, 2014.

Fighting Games Weekly is the weekly discussion thread for all things fighting games. News, events, streams, videos, players, drama, everything fighting game related.

Don't know what to watch right now? Check the FGCPros Twitch Group or Jaxel's Stream Viewer. If you want to watch multiple streams at once, you can use Jaxel's customizable multiviewer as well.

New to FGC-GAF is the FGC-GAF Index which lists the fighting games GAFers plays as a neat reference with some rough statistics to boot. To add yourself to the index, quote this post and use the survey link below. Please remember to save/bookmark the "Edit your response" link so you can edit your responses if/when you buy a game already on the list or a new game that releases in the future.


Last week's thread. An archive of previous FGW threads is available here.​




Shadowloo Showdown [ Additional Stream ] [ Friday ]
  • Australia's premiere, annual tournament returns, featuring more cool Bison artwork.
  • Capcom Pro Tour Ranking Tournament
  • This event continues through Sunday
  • More information is available here.
Summer Jam 8 [ Additional streams: 2, MK9/IGAU, Anime ] [ Saturday ] [ Schedule ] [ 12PM EDT | 9AM PDT ]
  • Big E's Summer Jam returns to close out the summer tournament season, featuring various fighting games and non-fighting games, such as Pokemon X/Y and Gears of War.
  • This event continues through Sunday.
  • More information is available here.
Arc Revolution Cup 2014 [ Saturday ]





Every week, FGW will spotlight one GAFer to get a better picture of their history with fighting games, their preferences, and much more. For this week's FGW Player Spotlight, we will be taking a closer look at enzo_gt!

What fighting games do you currently play, what is your all time favourite and why?
Not currently playing any fighting games as I've lent away my 360 and my PC graphics card is dying, but most recently I've been playing Soul Calibur V with my cousin because that's the only game he likes and can beat me in.

All time favourite is really difficult. It's either MvC2 or MvC3. I think I'd edge MvC2, simply because the first time I saw it being played I was just enamoured and had to stop and ask someone what the fuck am I watching and why is it so beautiful? I didn't even know MvC was a thing, and came out of that with a new love for fighting games and many of the IPs in that game.
What are your favorite mechanics from the current selection of fighting games and why? What are your least favorite and why?
My favourite mechanic has to be the super. Not a new mechanic by any means, but supers are just so damn satisfying, both in games where they are easy to build up to, and games where you have to be more frugal with meter
but not in SCV
. Building up to a very powerful, flashy attack to unleash is a very simple goal and dynamic to add to combat but an effective one.

My least favourite mechanic has to be combo breakers. I don't like the effect they have on match flow and how they only really exist to compensate for problems caused by other mechanics (such as long combos or hitstun), while also introducing new problems in the process.
What got you into fighting games? Are there any other genre of games you play?
I used to rent games for my Genesis because my parents thought why rent when you can buy, including SFII and UMK3. That sort of planted the seeds for later when I discovered MvC2, and even later for when the news dropped out of nowhere that SFIV was coming. All the nostalgia channeled itself into excitement for the revival of SF (and later, MvC), which then exposed me to the FGC. From there, it's history.

I play a ton of different genres of games, pretty much everything but sports games. Outside of the odd Strategy game like Civ and AoE, I tend to gravitate towards FPS and Racing games for the most part.
What is your favorite fighting game character and why?
It would probably be Sakura from SF. It's hard to describe her appeal, because I tend to generally hate most characters with similar, young, japanese schoolgirl aesthetics (as well as the idea of clone characters). I like how she is the understudy to Ryu; pretty much all she wants to do is get better at fighting, and wants to embark on a journey just like his as well. I also like the little things like how her style is a quirky version of the style she looks up to, but doesn't really have all the discipline that Ryu does. And there's no real cliche sexual tension or anything. For the most part.
Describe your style of play, and how do you play (local, online, etc.).
I would say my style of play is a mix of baiting and reactionary. The most satisfying thing to me is catching your opponent slipping or off-guard as it gives me a sort of intellectual high, so I keep doing that even though it's probably not the most reliable thing to revolve your entire game around. When my opponent feels they're in control, I usually just wait for them to fuck up instead and try to react.

Most of the time I play fighting games, I'm running long sets with a single friend or cousin or grinding in Marvel training mode.
What do you feel are your biggest strengths and weaknesses as a player?
My biggest strength is probably my ability to anticipate what the opponent is about to do. I can usually see through people's game plans or how they want to approach me next even if I'm usually not able to counteract it properly.

My biggest weakness is execution. I drop everything, and even after hours and hours of practice, but more disappointingly I can't seem to break execution barriers that are important to overcome for all of the characters I am interested in playing (Iron Man, Sakura, etc.).
Best and worst moments in the your fighting game career?
Best moment has to be attending Toryuken, my first IRL tournament. Really, there is nothing like the actual tournament atmosphere. You can be sitting at home and having fun watching all the tournament hijinks but nothing compares to talking to other cool people who you just met that share your hobby, someone you don't even know offering to help teach you Skullgirls, or getting hype over finals with a crowd.

Worst moment has to be going 0-2 at Toryuken. Kind of affirmed that I wouldn't be able to put enough time practicing/playing fighting games to compete competitively and work my way up to beloved FGC personality/commentator.
What do you want from future fighting games?
I want fighting games to learn from other genres, and FG publishers to begin taking the risks necessary to take the genre to the next level. This primarily means bigger budgets or a new megapublisher entering the game, but entails a lot of the more specific things that would be required, including: creating new IPs, extended developer support on-par with MOBAs and FPSs, in-depth tutorials that go much further than even the best examples today, designing modes and marketing games in a format that encourages people to try it out instead of back down from a genre stigma, etc.
Who should be on next week's GAF Player Spotlight?
My good friend DryEyeRelief. If not, Horseress.



Code:
08/27 Lethal League
08/28 Persona 4 Arena Ultimax (NA: 09/30, EU: TBD)
09/11 Naruto Shippuden: Ultimate Ninja Storm Revolution (JP) (PS3/360: EU: 09/12, NA: 09/16) (PC: 09/16)
09/13 Super Smash Bros. for 3DS (JP) (NA/EU: 10/03, AU: 10/04)
09/23 Arcana Heart 3: LOVE MAX!!!!! (NA) (EU: Q4)
09/23 Killer Instinct Combo Breaker Pack
10/15 Killer Instinct Season 2 (NA) (EU: TBD)
11/13 Dengeki Bunko Fighting Climax (JP) (NA/EU: TBD)
12/04 Guilty Gear Xrd -Sign- (JP) (NA/EU: TBD)
Q4    BLADE ARCUS from Shining
Q4    Rise of Incarnates
Q4    Yatagarasu: Attack on Cataclysm
XMAS  Super Smash Bros. for Wii U
2015  Dragon Ball Xenoverse
2015  Mortal Kombat X
2015  Rivals of Aether
2015  Under Night In-Birth (NA/EU)
TBD   Beast's Fury
TBD   Next The King Of Fighters Title (tentative)
TBD   Tekken 7
TBD   Tekken X Street Fighter
TBD   Yatagarasu: Legend of Raven



Super Desperation Radio [ 9:30PM EDT | 6:30 PDT ]
  • Hellpockets and various other members of the KoF community discuss KoF and happenings in the FGC.
Gootecks & Mike Ross Show [ 10PM EDT | 7PM PDT ]
  • Out of the ashes of Cross Counter Live rises a new discussion show from Gootecks and Mike Ross!
Marvel Mondays [ 10PM EDT | 7PM PDT ]
  • Out of the ashes of The BOX Arena, comes the San Diego FGC's newest organized weekly for UMvC3.
UltraChenTV: First Attack & Lv3 Focus [ 11:30PM EDT | 8:30PM PDT ]
  • Weekly FGC show dedicated to match analysis, teaching, commentary, news, debates, and more! Hosted by UltraDavid and James Chen.



Kachitagari TV (JP) [ 9PM JST | 8AM EDT | 5AM PDT ]
  • Bon-chan, Kazunoko and Fuudo's new show, focusing primarily on SSFIV AE ranked matches but is branching off into other games as well.
NYC VF [ 8PM EDT | 5PM PDT ]
  • NYC VF crew presents VF5:FS tournaments casuals out of The Next Level arcade in Brooklyn.
The Break Weekly [ 8PM EDT | 5PM PDT ]
  • New Jersey's largest weekly featuring UMvC3 and Injustice.
The On Blast Show [ 10PM EDT | 7PM PDT ]
  • JamessMK & DarKNaTaS host a raw and uncut weekly talk show discussing events in the FGC with various FGC personalities.
UltraChenTV: The Tuesday Show [ 11:30PM EDT | 8:30PM PDT ]
  • Weekly FGC show dedicated to match analysis, teaching, commentary, news, debates, and more! Hosted by UltraDavid and James Chen.
The Show That Sucks [ 1AM EDT (following day) | 10PM PDT ]
  • iPlaywinner hosts a weekly talk show featuring alpha stream monsters Harrison and Honzo Gonzo.



Game Spot Versus KoF Casuals (JP) [ 7PM JST | 6AM EDT | 3AM PDT ]
  • KoF 1998UM, KoF 2002UM and KoF XIII C action from Japan.
TOPANGA TV (JP) [ 9PM JST | 8AM EDT | 5AM PDT ]
  • Description needed.
Next Level Battle Circuit [ 8PM EDT | 4PM PDT ]
  • NYC's biggest weekly at The Next Level Arcade in Brooklyn featuring SSFIV AE, UMvC3 and TTT2. If the Teamsp00ky link is not working, it is likely on the backup stream on Arturo's channel.
Wednesday Night Fights [ 12AM EDT (following day) | 9PM PDT ]




HBTB Live [ 8PM EDT | 5PM PDT ]
  • Hold Back To Block hosts a weekly roundtable discussion of various happenings in the FGC.
Melee It On Me [ 9PM EDT | 6PM PDT ]
  • A bi-weekly Smash podcast discussing recent events, news and issues in the Smash community, hosted by Scar, Prog, Cactuar and Sheridan.
Ghost Battle Series [ 9PM CST | 10PM EDT | 7PM PDT ]
  • Galloping Ghost Arcade presents an Injustice weekly out of Chicago.
The Fray [ 10PM EDT | 7PM PDT ]
  • A weekly FGC talk show hosted by iPlaywinner, featuring a varying, ensemble cast of prominent members of the fighting game community.
ATP LIVE! [ 11PM EDT | 8PM PDT ]
  • Aris' new weekly show, discussing whatever he wants to! The format resembles old ATP podcasts.
The Runback Season 4 [ 12AM EDT (following day) | 9PM PDT ]
  • The UMvC3 and KoF XIII branch of Wednesday Night Fights also hosted at Super Arcade in Walnut, California.



The Smash Break Bi-Weekly [ 6PM EDT | 3PM PDT ]
  • The Break hosts a new Melee bi-weekly to replace Rokunaya Bi-Weeklies which are ending.
Thank God It's Team Stickbug [ 7PM EDT | 4PM PDT ]
  • Arturo streams a BlazBlue and Guilty Gear bi-weekly out of Next Level arcade in Brooklyn.
KaoTV! (JP) [ 11PM JST | 10AM EDT | 7AM PDT ]
SALTY! [ 11PM EDT | 8PM PDT ]
  • A bi-weekly Skullgirls event hosted by members of the Skullgirls development team, often featuring preview builds of the game.



Rebel Up [ 7PM EDT | 4PM PDT ]
  • Super Arcade's anime bi-weekly, featuring GG, BB, P4A, SG, Gundam and older anime games as well.



GGPO VanBats [ 4PM EDT | 1PM PDT ]
  • Weekly GGPO Vampire Savior ranbats streamed by GAFer Rotanibor.
Super Smash Sundays [ 4PM EDT | 1PM PDT ]
  • Level|Up and Team OXY partner up to create a new weekly for the SoCal Melee community, featuring doubles and singles.



On GAF we have various members that stream fighting games from time to time too. If you would like to add your channel to this thread, send me a PM.
Additionally, if you want to really get involved, you may want to check out the various OTs for specific games:
GAF isn't the only FG community in town though. Here are a whole bunch of other FG communities across the internet that may be of interest:
  • 8WayRun - Soul Calibur franchise community
  • DOACentral - Dead or Alive franchise community
  • Dream Cancel - King of Fighters franchise community and resource, more US-centric
  • Dustloop - Forums/community for Arc System Works-developed games
  • Eventhubs - Frequently updated news blog, resource and forums for all things fighting games
  • FreeStepDodge - Dead or Alive franchise community
  • Homing Cancel - Arcana Heart community
  • iPlaywinner - Large fighting game news site and resource, and the home to Teamsp00ky and iPlaywinner
  • Jet Upper - UK-centric news source and community
  • Mayonaka Midnight - Persona 4 Arena community and resource
  • Melty Bread - Melty Blood community
  • Mizuumi - A resource for various "poverty" games
  • Orochinagi - King of Fighters franchise community and resource, more EU-centric
  • Reddit Fighters - Reddit's own fighting game community subreddit
  • Shoryuken - The largest FG community and multigame resource on the web, with a large Capcom games community
  • Skullheart - fan Skullgirls community and resource made official
  • TekkenZaibatsu - Tekken franchise community
  • Test Your Might - Mortal Kombat and Injustice community and resource
  • UKFGC - UK-centric news source and community
  • Smash Boards - The largest Smash Bros. Community™
  • VFDC - Virtua Fighter franchise community site

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If you have any suggestions for the OP, please do not hesitate to post in this thread or PM me to let me know.
 

Rhapsody

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So Elizabeth is really bad, and really hard to use? :-/

Pretty much. Her defense is awful because of her garbage DP and Guard Cancel (her normals aren't too bad though). Her pressure games isn't as easy as other characters. I'd say her combos take some work as well. The only good thing she has going is damage still.
 

irfaanator

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do you guys talk about any version of SF prior to SF4? does this thread contain any useful information of that sort? if you guys have any questions regarding stuff like footsies or just general tactics in certain matchups maybe i can be of some use in that area.

this thread is just random fgc stuff, but posts like that are always welcome (at least by me)
 

Karsticles

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Pretty much. Her defense is awful because of her garbage DP and Guard Cancel (her normals aren't too bad though). Her pressure games isn't as easy as other characters. I'd say her combos take some work as well. The only good thing she has going is damage still.
I feel like developers are psychic, and they consistently design the character that appeals to me to take a ton of work compared to others while offering less return. -_-

Still, I plan on buying P4AU. At the very least, it will keep me tided over until Smash U. I am so pumped for this winter/spring:
P4AU
Smash
GG Xrd
(probably) new BB

Lots of stuff to look forward to (but BB only if Nine gets in).
 

RockTurtle

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the skull girls button mechanics are interesting. I like the punch->kick, low - high flow of comboes, which allow you to make custom comboes on the fly.

i cant believe i didnt pick that up before, and it honestly feels good. i wonder how other fighting games would be like if they implement that
 

Karsticles

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the skull girls button mechanics are interesting. I like the punch->kick, low - high flow of comboes, which allow you to make custom comboes on the fly.

i cant believe i didnt pick that up before, and it honestly feels good. i wonder how other fighting games would be like if they implement that
The only thing I don't like about it is the character-specific launchers. I feel like MvC3 inputs were a step forward from MvC2, and Skullgirls is frustratingly the only 8 button fighter around. Yeah, technically it's 6, but everyone uses 8. Even Duckator hotkeys his assists. I wouldn't mind Skullgirls 2 swapping to MvC3 inputs to improve the learning curve.
 

Silky

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My hype for Smash is mostly reserved for everything else it provides instead of it's fighting aspects. Just waiting for Shulk to finally be confirmed so I can make the jump.

I want to get back into Skullgirls but I feel so behind without the PC version in my life. Shit sucks. :/

It's still early, I'm on westcoast been busy playing Ys. What's up?

What characters do you use/do you have any experience with Amane?
 

Mr. X

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the skull girls button mechanics are interesting. I like the punch->kick, low - high flow of comboes, which allow you to make custom comboes on the fly.

i cant believe i didnt pick that up before, and it honestly feels good. i wonder how other fighting games would be like if they implement that

That magic series was introduced in Vampire Hunter or which ever came and was in the versus series as well. (at least until MvC2 when you had to hit L twice to get to M strength attacks)
 

Karsticles

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My hype for Smash is mostly reserved for everything else it provides instead of it's fighting aspects. Just waiting for Shulk to finally be confirmed so I can make the jump.

I want to get back into Skullgirls but I feel so behind without the PC version in my life. Shit sucks. :/
When the Eliza patch comes out, I'll be doing a long play session to test team combinations if you want in. I'm still 50/50 on including her on my team, but my Double is so atrocious that I should probably make the move anyway.

has the smash bros full character roster leak been proven false? i really would like to use the duck hunt dog.
Nope, still up in the air. But made more complicated by the fact that so many people are pretending to be the leaker since it came from an anonymous 4chan poster.
 

Rhapsody

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the skull girls button mechanics are interesting. I like the punch->kick, low - high flow of comboes, which allow you to make custom comboes on the fly.

i cant believe i didnt pick that up before, and it honestly feels good. i wonder how other fighting games would be like if they implement that

You should try Melty Blood and UNIEL. Basically any order works as long as the normal hasn't been used.

Makes for creative pressure and scary frame traps.
 

Anne

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As mentioned before, that list is made by YMST. He's kind of a god player in the fact he has been a top player for 3 different chars. It's pretty agreeable, Yosuke bove Yu is eh but hes definitely strong as hell. SLab is mad underrated though, that's just a Japan thing.
 

Rhapsody

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Since I won't have the money for P4U2, I'm considering on choosing a strong character at the start.
Obviously there's Narukami that I currently use, but I'm still considering Persona Sho.
 

Azure J

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My hype for Smash is mostly reserved for everything else it provides instead of it's fighting aspects. Just waiting for Shulk to finally be confirmed so I can make the jump.

I want to get back into Skullgirls but I feel so behind without the PC version in my life. Shit sucks. :/

Ever since my "that one character" was confirmed not playable, I've been in this weird place where I just want the time between that revelation and the game's release to gtfo my way so I can finally play this game and draw my own conclusions. I realize I'm playing the optimist again, especially considering the design decisions in the previous game and considering how much of a coin flip it is to believe that all of the criticisms of the demo would reach the right ears at the right time when we can't see updated builds beyond the one made for E3 (which was made in January apparently), but I just can't go another 5 - 6 years without my series man.
 
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My hype for Smash is mostly reserved for everything else it provides instead of it's fighting aspects. Just waiting for Shulk to finally be confirmed so I can make the jump.

I want to get back into Skullgirls but I feel so behind without the PC version in my life. Shit sucks. :/
Do you not have the PC version of Skullgirls or is it that you can't run it?
 

RockTurtle

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Ever since my "that one character" was confirmed not playable, I've been in this weird place where I just want the time between that revelation and the game's release to gtfo my way so I can finally play this game and draw my own conclusions. I realize I'm playing the optimist again, especially considering the design decisions in the previous game and considering how much of a coin flip it is to believe that all of the criticisms of the demo would reach the right ears at the right time when we can't see updated builds beyond the one made for E3 (which was made in January apparently), but I just can't go another 5 - 6 years without my series man.

no mewtwo no sale
 

Astarte

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My good friend DryEyeRelief.

Oh gosh

I'm glad that the NA version isn't region locked so that the EU guys can get time in, but I just want that extra month of the Jap version :<
 

BakedYams

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Oh man Enzo, that was probably the most jerkish post I've see you do hahaha "my good friend DryEyeRelief"

I'm surprised none of the gaffers here have written a fanfic about you two and how Deckard Cain and Dahbomb are up for competition.
I only kid DB, I know you hate Deckard's guts.

Plus, who the hell recommended we move to community? Depending on the person, I might have to show them a thing or two...
While I duck away after making this comment.

Edit:

OMG THE KFC BUCKET! THE STRUGGLE IS SOOOO REAL! THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU DON'T ACCEPT ANIME!
 

BakedYams

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The people Viscant challenged is so weak sauce. Would have been better if he asked Clackwerk on his own team to do it since they all bailed.