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Elden Ring is the greatest realization of imagery from Tolkien's Silmarillion

EviLore

Expansive Ellipses
Staff Member
I was giving The Silmarillion a read recently, and while many passages were striking, this one stood out. It's a description of the Elven city of Gondolin:

The Silmarillion - Of Tuor and the Fall of Gondolin said:
And at the last by the power that Ulmo set upon them they came to the hidden door of Gondolin, and passing down the tunnel they reached the inner gate, and were taken by the guard as prisoners. Then they were led up the mighty ravine of Orfalch Echor, barred by seven gates, and brought before Ecthelion of the Fountain, the warden of the great gate at the end of the climbing road; and there Tuor cast aside his cloak, and from the arms that he bore from Vinyamar it was seen that he was in truth one sent by Ulmo. Then Tuor looked down upon the fair vale of Tumladen, set as a green jewel amid the encircling hills; and he saw far off upon the rocky height of Amon Gwareth Gondolin the great, city of seven names, whose fame and glory is mightiest in song of all dwellings of the Elves in the Hither Lands. At the bidding of Ecthelion trumpets were blown on the towers of the great gate, and they echoed in the hills; and far off but clear there came a sound of answering trumpets blown upon the white walls of the city, flushed with the rose of dawn upon the plain.

Maybe it's just me, but this evoked Leyndell, the capital city of Elden Ring on several levels: from Ecthelion of the Fountain as warden of the great gate at the end of the climbing road, to the city being surrounded by a ravine amid encircling hills, to trumpets blowing at the towers echoing in the hills, to the city's white walls.

Of course, it's no secret that Miyazaki takes inspiration from Tolkien for the Souls series, and this is hardly a copy-paste situation at all. The Souls games have tremendous original worldbuilding on top of their western fantasy foundations. But something like The Silmarillion is widely considered to be impossible to adapt, and typically the best we can get are a few vivid paintings and illustrations, such as these of Gondolin by Alan Lee and Ted Nasmith respectively:


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I would argue that there's nothing quite like Miyazaki's games that captures the spirit of these words so well, increasingly so over time. I'm glad we have a medium like video games where it's possible to exist in a grand and truly larger than life fantasy world for a brief while.



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Consider, too, this passage of Fingolfin's duel vs Morgoth in the Silmarillion:

The Silmaillion - Of the Ruin of Beleriand and the Fall of Fingolfin said:
Now news came to Hithlum that Dorthonion was lost and the sons of Finarfin overthrown, and that the sons of Fëanor were driven from their lands. Then Fingolfin beheld (as it seemed to him) the utter ruin of the Noldor, and the defeat beyond redress of all their houses; and filled with wrath and despair he mounted upon Rochallor his great horse and rode forth alone, and none might restrain him. He passed over Dor-nu-Fauglith like a wind amid the dust, and all that beheld his onset fled in amaze, thinking that Oromë himself was come: for a great madness of rage was upon him, so that his eyes shone like the eyes of the Valar. Thus he came alone to Angband’s gates, and he sounded his horn, and smote once more upon the brazen doors, and challenged Morgoth to come forth to single combat. And Morgoth came.

That was the last time in those wars that he passed the doors of his stronghold, and it is said that he took not the challenge willingly; for though his might was greatest of all things in this world, alone of the Valar he knew fear. But he could not now deny the challenge before the face of his captains; for the rocks rang with the shrill music of Fingolfin’s horn, and his voice came keen and clear down into the depths of Angband; and Fingolfin named Morgoth craven, and lord of slaves. Therefore Morgoth came, climbing slowly from his subterranean throne, and the rumour of his feet was like thunder underground. And he issued forth clad in black armour; and he stood before the King like a tower, iron-crowned, and his vast shield, sable unblazoned, cast a shadow over him like a stormcloud. But Fingolfin gleamed beneath it as a star; for his mail was overlaid with silver, and his blue shield was set with crystals; and he drew his sword Ringil, that glittered like ice.

Then Morgoth hurled aloft Grond, the Hammer of the Underworld, and swung it down like a bolt of thunder. But Fingolfin sprang aside, and Grond rent a mighty pit in the earth, whence smoke and fire darted. Many times Morgoth essayed to smite him, and each time Fingolfin leaped away, as a lightning shoots from under a dark cloud; and he wounded Morgoth with seven wounds, and seven times Morgoth gave a cry of anguish, whereat the hosts of Angband fell upon their faces in dismay, and the cries echoed in the Northlands.

But at the last the King grew weary, and Morgoth bore down his shield upon him. Thrice he was crushed to his knees, and thrice arose again and bore up his broken shield and stricken helm. But the earth was all rent and pitted about him, and he stumbled and fell backward before the feet of Morgoth; and Morgoth set his left foot upon his neck, and the weight of it was like a fallen hill. Yet with his last and desperate stroke Fingolfin hewed the foot with Ringil, and the blood gushed forth black and smoking and filled the pits of Grond.

Thus died Fingolfin, High King of the Noldor, most proud and valiant of the Elven-kings of old. The Orcs made no boast of that duel at the gate; neither do the Elves sing of it, for their sorrow is too deep. Yet the tale of it is remembered still, for Thorondor King of Eagles brought the tidings to Gondolin, and to Hithlum afar off. And Morgoth took the body of the Elven-king and broke it, and would cast it to his wolves; but Thorondor came hasting from his eyrie among the peaks of the Crissaegrim, and he stooped upon Morgoth and marred his face. The rushing of the wings of Thorondor was like the noise of the winds of Manwë, and he seized the body in his mighty talons, and soaring suddenly above the darts of the Orcs he bore the King away. And he laid him upon a mountain-top that looked from the north upon the hidden valley of Gondolin; and Turgon coming built a high cairn over his father. No Orc dared ever after to pass over the mount of Fingolfin or draw nigh his tomb, until the doom of Gondolin was come and treachery was born among his kin. Morgoth went ever halt of one foot after that day, and the pain of his wounds could not be healed; and in his face was the scar that Thorondor made.

Bearing down on an imposing, impossible presence, wearing it down little by little, movements like elemental forces of nature, one false move leading to a crushing death.


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jason10mm

Gold Member
Makes me want to play Elden Ring
Same here. On the continuum of rpgs with Breath of the Wild in one corner, AC in another, and some sort of punishing Dark Souls game in a third, and an action RPG like The Witcher in the fourth, where does Elder Ring fall?
 

Umbasaborne

Banned
I kept thinking the same thing. I love looking at the game and wandering its world, i just wish i was better at playing it lol

I think if any studio was equipped to make a lord of the rings game, it would be fromsoft. They would just need to make a world thats more populated and living then they are used to
 
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I'll say the imagery from Elden Ring really feels like those classic Caspar David Friedrich paintings...
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or Zdzislaw Beksiński paintings that have such striking and/or ominous feelings to them and it becomes burned into your brain in that you are interested, intrigued, and a bit apprehensive at the same time.

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FS have had a strong art department for a long time, but it really feels like it was a master class of the genre because of how consistently excellent and imaginative it is from start to finish.
 
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Fredrik

Member
Agreed. It’s fighting at the top of my all time list by now, it’s not perfect but the world FROM has crafted and the art direction and sense of adventure is unmatched imo. The lore could be less vague and some difficulty spikes could be lower, otherwise it’s a 10/10. I’m standing outside the gate to Elden Beast on my second playthrough now, this time as an astrologer with sorcery focus and I’m loving the game just as much as my first playthrough as a hero with melee focus. 300+ wonderful hours total, so far.
 

Mr Hyde

Member
Leyndell was truly a magical moment when you first entered the capital. From Soft are brilliant when it comes to introducing their vast cities with eye popping vistas. Ages ago I read Silmarillion so can't really draw any comparisons to it, but ER in general I feel does revoke a lot of Lord of the Rings vibes. Miyazaki is a book nerd, particularly in fantasy, and you can tell it influences his games.
 

Sentenza

Member
I was thinking something similar few days ago, following the mild disappointment that Rings of Power has been for me.
It applies to the first Dark Souls as well, incidentally.
 
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fart town usa

Gold Member
I've always been a fan of Daniel Dociu, who in my humble opinion, does some of the most fantastical impressionist paintings of fantasy-related scenery:

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https://daniel_dociu.artstation.com/projects
Is that the guy who did those Tower of Babel paintings? Awesome stuff.

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tommib

Member
Elden Ring encapsulates the real definition of Epic. I recently installed it again just to wander a bit and the drone string arrangements on the Elden Throne entrance with those massive walls and burning fire... Bloody hell. Makes you want to kneel.

We’re not worthy.
 
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kyliethicc

Member
I was giving The Silmarillion a read recently, and while many passages were striking, this one stood out. It's a description of the Elven city of Gondolin:



Maybe it's just me, but this evoked Leyndell, the capital city of Elden Ring on several levels: from Ecthelion of the Fountain as warden of the great gate at the end of the climbing road, to the city being surrounded by a ravine amid encircling hills, to trumpets blowing at the towers echoing in the hills, to the city's white walls.

Of course, it's no secret that Miyazaki takes inspiration from Tolkien for the Souls series, and this is hardly a copy-paste situation at all. The Souls games have tremendous original worldbuilding on top of their western fantasy foundations. But something like The Silmarillion is widely considered to be impossible to adapt, and typically the best we can get are a few vivid paintings and illustrations, such as these of Gondolin by Alan Lee and Ted Nasmith respectively:


GtyUgR3.jpg


lPKV44r.jpg



I would argue that there's nothing quite like Miyazaki's games that captures the spirit of these words so well, increasingly so over time. I'm glad we have a medium like video games where it's possible to exist in a grand and truly larger than life fantasy world for a brief while.



lF62K8n.gif



Consider, too, this passage of Fingolfin's duel vs Morgoth in the Silmarillion:



Bearing down on an imposing, impossible presence, wearing it down little by little, movements like elemental forces of nature, one false move leading to a crushing death.


ZNN1RSN.gif

Elden Ring's world is not JRR Tolkien tho, its GRR Martin.
 

OmegaSupreme

advanced basic bitch
The art for this game makes me really wish I didn't suck at these things. I had the same feeling with Bloodborne. So beautiful but I don't have the gamer skill set or the patience to do it.
 
I really did think of Tolkien quite a few times while playing Elden Ring. I guess the most obvious example is Caelid made me think of trying to survive in Mordor.

But unless Elden Ring can tell me why a boat floats but a rock sinks, Martin/Miyazaki still aren't quite up there with the GoaT :messenger_smirking:
 
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TexMex

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Yes, Payne and McKay must be Tolkien himself reborn in a new age.

When Galadriel started singing “crawling in my skin, these wounds they will not hee-al,” and made out with Sauron while they put fentanyl needles into each other’s arms, it sent shivers down my spine.

I've never watched Rings of Power, but it says a lot that I'm honestly not sure if this is entirely a joke.
 

Punished Miku

Gold Member
The whole thing seemed very obviously lifted from the Silmarillion when I played it. The giant tree of light was a pretty big clue.

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FROM have great art direction though.
 
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jason10mm

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Yes, Payne and McKay must be Tolkien himself reborn in a new age.

When Galadriel started singing “crawling in my skin, these wounds they will not hee-al,” and made out with Sauron while they put fentanyl needles into each other’s arms, it sent shivers down my spine.
Not gonna lie, if they give the guys who did Repo the Tolkien license, I'd watch it!

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