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E3 2021: Xbox has everything to prove, it's time to show off the fruits of its software investments and there's little margin for error

Banjo64

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People really hate seeing Rare so successful under Microsoft huh?
It’s pretty sad. They just like doing their own thing but people expect them to still be devoted to Banjo, Conker, Donkey Kong 64, GoldenEye and Perfect Dark.

Those games are my childhood and I have a strong emotional attachment to them all, but Rare made them when they had two very small teams operating out of two barns with the Stamper Bros in charge.

Modern day Rare wants to make Viva Piñata, Kameo, Nuts and Bolts and Sea of Thieves and they are all genuinely fantastic games that just get shit on because they aren’t the N64 platformers.

MS are literally giving them the creative freedom to do what they want and they want to make SoT and Everwild, not those N64 style games.
 

S0ULZB0URNE

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It’s pretty sad. They just like doing their own thing but people expect them to still be devoted to Banjo, Conker, Donkey Kong 64, GoldenEye and Perfect Dark.

Those games are my childhood and I have a strong emotional attachment to them all, but Rare made them when they had two very small teams operating out of two barns with the Stamper Bros in charge.

Modern day Rare wants to make Viva Piñata, Kameo, Nuts and Bolts and Sea of Thieves and they are all genuinely fantastic games that just get shit on because they aren’t the N64 platformers.

MS are literally giving them the creative freedom to do what they want and they want to make SoT and Everwild, not those N64 style games.
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And many of those 23 studios have multiple teams, so it's even a bigger gap than 23 vs 12. And it sounds like it's going to get even bigger at E3.
 
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GIve me StarField. Give me that Interstellar goodness

Personally I'd really just like to see fucking StarField already. My Series S is wet with anticipation.

Also wouldn't mind a look at Elder Scrolls 6
 
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What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in Spiral Mountain, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Gruntilda’s Lair, and I have over 300 confirmed jiggies. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top banana collector in the entire Donkey Kong Island. You are nothing to me but just another Jinjo. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak, I am contacting my secret network of spies across the Carrington Institute and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re a fucking squirrel, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can collect you in over 3821 ways, and that’s just with my bare monkey hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the dataDyne Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking King Jingaling, kiddo.
It wasn't @ you it was @ what you said.

 

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And many of those 23 studios have multiple teams, so it's even a bigger gap than 23 vs 12. And it sounds like it's going to get even bigger at E3.
When you root for acquisitions vs actual games to play....

Hey, gotta root for something, right?
 
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What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in Spiral Mountain, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Gruntilda’s Lair, and I have over 300 confirmed jiggies. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top banana collector in the entire Donkey Kong Island. You are nothing to me but just another Jinjo. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak, I am contacting my secret network of spies across the Carrington Institute and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re a fucking squirrel, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can collect you in over 3821 ways, and that’s just with my bare monkey hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the dataDyne Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking King Jingaling, kiddo.
Holy shit! I don't know what to say 👍
 
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Personally I prefer Microsoft's line up. I've put more hours in to sea of thieves than any other game. I just want them to see the same level of mainstream recognition that the Sony exclusives get. A modern perfect dark for example, should absolutely be getting mentioned in the same sentence as god of war and the last of us.
Did they ever say if the new Perfect Dark is 3rd person now or still 1st person?
 

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When you root for acquisitions vs actual games to play....

Hey, gotta root for something, right?
People are setting themselves up for disappointment thinking the XSX will have double the exclusives of the PS5
 

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I count 18 announced xbox games being developed including ones comes out this year, the two Sony ones and then 2 unannounced games but you can assume that they are in development.

Fable
F Motorsport
F Horizon 5
Avowed
Grounded
ES6
Starfield
Wolfenstein 3
SoD3
Everwild
Indy Jones
Coalition new IP
Halo Infinite
Psychonauts 2
PD
Hellblade 2
Project Mara
AOE4

Ghostwire
Deathloop

Project Omen
Compulsion new games

This is internally developed games. Minecraft/Mojang is a weird one as they might never release a new game ever again
 
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Don't quote me on it but I'm sure they said first person in the videos preceding the original reveal trailer.
Damn I was hoping the rumors from a while back were true of it being a 3rd person reboot
 

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I count 18 announced xbox games being developed including ones comes out this year, the two Sony ones and then 2 unannounced games but you can assume that they are in development.

Fable
F Motorsport
F Horizon 5
Avowed
Grounded
ES6
Starfield
Wolfenstein 3
SoD3
Everwild
Indy Jones
Coalition new IP
Halo Infinite
Psychonauts 2
PD
Hellblade 2
Project Mara
AOE4

Ghostwire
Deathloop

Project Omen
Compulsion new games

This is internally developed games. Minecraft/Mojang is a weird one as they might never release a new game ever again
Inxile AAA WRPG with the combat engineer from Santa Monica should be rolling now and the 3rd Obsidian project from Josh sawyer.
 
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I don't expect shit from them. They never wow me at E3, ever.

All I care about is Halo Infinite and its release date.
 

Tschumi

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It's right, only Xbox have much to say at this e3, if only because ps isn't there.

I'm looking out for Avowed...
 
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It's right, only Xbox have much to say at this e3, if only because ps isn't there.

I'm looking out for Avowed...
Sony has very good reasons not to be there.

• They've done the hard work to garner the marketshare they have. There's literally no need for them to even bother with the effort of participating in E3. They can easily run on autopilot for the foreseeable future and simply soak up the profits. The only requirement being to occasionally release a statement about having something like 25 games in development with zero context or evidence and they'll be fine.

• After Sony's last couple of showings at E3, they are likely recieving a substantial amount of money to not participate. Rumor has it, that when Sony made a deal with devil in order to produce quality singleplayer games... It came at the expense for Sony to produce anything of quality at E3.
 

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I don't expect shit from them. They never wow me at E3, ever.

All I care about is Halo Infinite and its release date.
true, I feel the same! This is going to be a boring E3, unless Nintendo decides to go all crazy!!! But I doubt it.
 

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its time to show gameplay MS.I bought a series X day one to support and now it’s time to see games. Catch up to the competition this year and release 2 to 3 solid first party games in 2021 and that’s a good start. Then follow up with a strong 2022 schedule starting in q1.

MS have incredible hardware, the most impressive as a whole package for the price in my opinion. Design etc and power but we need games as you know….its a frigging games machine.

time to show your hand…no more cg trailers of games years out with no gameplay. If they don’t, I’ll genuinely be disappointed and just treat my Xbox as the gamepass box it is and think.l..wtf are they even doing over there? haha
 
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Tschumi

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Sony has very good reasons not to be there.

• They've done the hard work to garner the marketshare they have. There's literally no need for them to even bother with the effort of participating in E3. They can easily run on autopilot for the foreseeable future and simply soak up the profits. The only requirement being to occasionally release a statement about having something like 25 games in development with zero context or evidence and they'll be fine.

• After Sony's last couple of showings at E3, they are likely recieving a substantial amount of money to not participate. Rumor has it, that when Sony made a deal with devil in order to produce quality singleplayer games... It came at the expense for Sony to produce anything of quality at E3.
u seem to have read my post as a slight on sony

chikkity check yawself
 

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I disagree. With the way fans are they could easily have a few more bad E3’s before people get truly upset.
 

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It's guerrilla



Not gorilla

look eating GIF


Feels so good to teach an English guy how to speak English

Happy GIF
Tsk tsk tsk.

You dont know gorilla fight brother? Shame on you. Get this man out of here. He no Ape. Only Apes allowed here.

planet of the apes gorillas GIF

Classic movie by the way.
 
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true, I feel the same! This is going to be a boring E3, unless Nintendo decides to go all crazy!!! But I doubt it.
If Microsoft announces Koji partnership, i doubt that make this e3 meh. The amount of fire of that would be crazy.
Screaming Andy Samberg GIF by Brooklyn Nine-Nine
 

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If Microsoft announces Koji partnership, i doubt that make this e3 meh. The amount of fire of that would be crazy.
Screaming Andy Samberg GIF by Brooklyn Nine-Nine
Kojima is in tomorrow's summer game fest, I doubt he'll present there a Microsoft partnership when Microsoft has its own event in 4 days
 

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I disagree. With the way fans are they could easily have a few more bad E3’s before people get truly upset.

Nah if this doesn't clap hard your going to have a lot of people unhappy with their purchase. If your indifferent and love Gamepass then nothing they show really should bother you. It's others who are on the fence in getting back in with xbox they have to convince, and thats actually a lot of people as seen with the split of Playstation brand vs Xbox WW.
 

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Imagine if they shadowdrop a Halo Infinite multiplayer beta thing or whatever.





Make it so MS!
If rumours are true then they are ...


Probably to already testing insiders, been apart of the Halo Insider program for a long time, you can easily sign up on the site.
 
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What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in Spiral Mountain, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Gruntilda’s Lair, and I have over 300 confirmed jiggies. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top banana collector in the entire Donkey Kong Island. You are nothing to me but just another Jinjo. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak, I am contacting my secret network of spies across the Carrington Institute and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re a fucking squirrel, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can collect you in over 3821 ways, and that’s just with my bare monkey hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the dataDyne Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking King Jingaling, kiddo.
It’s too early to be laughing this hard.
 
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They literally have everything in their favor right now bar a strong first party lineup. The integration of cloud gaming, backwards compatibility, smart delivery and, as another poster mentioned, even the handling of saved data have been game changing this gen. Now they just need a solid lineup of great looking and playing exclusives so that I can play a new Perfect Dark on the main TV, on my bedroom TV and most importantly on the toilet, seamlessly. The foundation they've constructed is far superior to Sony's but they really do have to make good on their promises now otherwise I think all the good will they've generated will vanish and I don't think people will be willing to give them another chance this time round.
Are you in luck because starting today with Xbox Home you can play your favorites like Perfect Dark Zero on your thermostat against your friends on Xbox live.
 
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Zeroing

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If Microsoft announces Koji partnership, i doubt that make this e3 meh. The amount of fire of that would be crazy.
Screaming Andy Samberg GIF by Brooklyn Nine-Nine
According to Xbox fans kojima is overrated and if the partnership happens, Sony fans will say the same!

I can’t keep up with with constant change of opinions in the groups.

That being said, it’s not the first time MS brings kojima to the stage 99% of the time, was as a sort of celebrity cameo… so there’s a certain logic behind kojima being there.
 

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According to Xbox fans kojima is overrated and if the partnership happens, Sony fans will say the same!

I can’t keep up with with constant change of opinions in the groups.

That being said, it’s not the first time MS brings kojima to the stage 99% of the time, was as a sort of celebrity cameo… so there’s a certain logic behind kojima being there.
He is an overrated man like Tod Howard. but, both of them, let their work do the talk for them, and their games are highly regarded.

as for fanboys, they are just man-child's. We got to the point someone berated at a guy who hangs out with Phil spencer, for playing ratchet and clank. an actual quato from twitter (I know the site is hit). " You don’t deserve to touch a dualsense controller nor play greatness…stick with that trash box" by Leon Kennedy @Ken_retro3 jun 7. That is how toxic fanboys have become.
 
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