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Dusk Golem: PS5 costs around $600 at launch to produce
Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
The Fud Golem is at it again.
It was cheaper to manufacture than PS4, the GPU was less powerful and it used DDR3 as a cost saving measure, Microsoft was likely at zero profit/loss from its release and started to take small losses when they ditched Kinect.
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thelastword
Banned
People don't buy a console just because it's cheaper. They buy a console because it has the games they want to play and lots of it........XSS won't light the sales chart on fire just because it's priced low. DC had no chance against the PS2 and neither did GC and they were both $199 consoles vs the PS2 at $299.....It's really about the overall value you get from a product rather than if it is cheaper or not......Like I don't see anybody buying an XBOX Series S at $299 over a Digital PS5 console at $399, when the power difference is so substantial, the games look much better, the exclusives are guaranteed, the controller, the audio, the SSD and the console architecture is just more futureproofed and advanced.....These are the considerations people make, when weighing cheaper products vs more expensive ones....
Yet, I agree that Sony won't price the console at $599, they did some research on that. So even if it costs them much more than to manufacture than the XBOX Series X, I expect the high point to be $499.
MoistPenetration
Neo Member
even at $600 the ps5 would outsell the XSX like crazy.
M1chl
Currently Gif and Meme Champion
You are very wrong: https://venturebeat.com/2013/11/29/...sts-381-and-why-this-matters-in-the-long-run/
"Safe costing measure" You haven't been around back then? Never head of how Sony got lucky with 8GB of GDDR5? Good times.
Soulja
Member
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PS4 cost was 19 dollars under its retail price, Xbox One was 29 dollars, I remember that one calculated at 450 dollars, meaning that Microsoft was closer on getting a profit from each unit.
And yes, I've been around for more than a decade, I know that PS4 was even internally called Orbis and rumors is that they also wanted an online DRM and even to bundle with the PS Camera until Microsoft went there first and the shitstorm was made. The extra 4GB was something they managed at the last minute.
Beer Baelly
Al Pachinko, Konami President
This dude should seek another hobby. He's done.
KingT731
Member
The OG XB1 also came with Kinect. The price went to 400 after dropping Kinect in June 2014 then again in November the price dropped again to 350.
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Maxwell Jacob Friedman
leads to fear. Fear leads to xbox.
I dont like both of them but we do have evidence in the past where he made up rumours about the ps5 performance because he felt he had to "even the odds" because that week microsoft was getting lots of bad press revolving around xbox, halo etc.
the guy dug his own hole
M1chl
Currently Gif and Meme Champion
Well but that does not change the situation that chip alone was more expensive due to eSRAM...thus worse yields and etc.
MS simply had to take the L and eat that money.
KingT731
Member
The chip was but not the entire console.
M1chl
Currently Gif and Meme Champion
Sure it was not, however like I posted above the article, that cost of the whole console was more than PS4.
Revolutionary
Member
Stop 
Giving That Lying Idiot Attention
Giving That Lying Idiot Attention
KingT731
Member
Yeah because that cost INCLUDES the Kinect...
Empire Strikes Back
Member
Thanks to Dusk, now I believe in $299 and $399. Let’s fucking go!!!
Wat
Aggressive Carrot
Member
Who cares? He's just some dude pulling numbers from his ass. Just guessing like the rest of us
Drunkensamurai
Member
Please lock this thread
No point in having a thread about someone's opinion on the price.
No point in having a thread about someone's opinion on the price.
He doesn't leak silent hill it was different person.
JLB
Banned
so lets censor opinions? nice.
M1chl
Currently Gif and Meme Champion
Microsoft’s Xbox One costs bout $471 to make, compared to $381 for the PS4. This naturally explains why Microsoft is selling the Xbox One for $500, while Sony is selling the PS4 for $400.
About $75 of Microsoft’s extra cost covers the second-generation Kinect motion-sensing camera.
It still more expensive than PS4.
Vawn
Banned
The 5th best selling home console ever? That one? They should just not show up?
Vawn
Banned
It's weaker in some ways and stronger in others. All signs indicate the PS5 costs more to produce than the Series X.
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Drunkensamurai
Member
Bergoglio
Member
"It's really about the overall value you get from a product"
Game Pass + EA Play + NO online on payment (in the future) + Halo in 2021 + all first party on GP on day one at 299$.
249$ in 2023.
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Voost Kain
Banned
Mods locked my thread but this is just proof they don't understand the technical analysis involved, they can't reduce the price this late.
Maxwell Jacob Friedman
leads to fear. Fear leads to xbox.
Dusk golem lied about the ps5 performance wise and admitted that he made it up because xbox was getting bad press that week and wanted to make things "even" hoping other people would catch it and spread it around
Michael Hawk
Member
The last time he blabbered was for the purpose of balancing out the 'negative' Xbox news by introducing unsourced and unverified 'negative' PlayStation news. Given the negative reception to the XSS by developers, it's not out of the realm of possibility that Dusk woke up today with the intention of providing another deep tissue tonguing of Xbox's anus.
While the PS5 could indeed cost $600 or more to build (and subsequently retail for that price or higher), the source of that information is -- due to his own actions -- a recognized service provider for Xbox. Just keep that in mind.
While the PS5 could indeed cost $600 or more to build (and subsequently retail for that price or higher), the source of that information is -- due to his own actions -- a recognized service provider for Xbox. Just keep that in mind.
Not true. He explicitly refuted those claims you are making and doubled down even.
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Investor9872
Member
Heimdall_Xtreme
Jim Ryan Fanclub's #1 Member
That must be a "Cheapass" PC you have for gaming!
I don't really get your point, I can currently play Red Dead Redemption 2 and Horizon with no problem.
I prefer to play the games that I am missing from this generation.
Investor9872
Member
You mean, "because Sony arent that tarded" anymore! Sony was plenty retarded at the PS3 launch.
KingdomHeartsFan
Member
This dude is just an attention whore. Nut-job admitted to making up shit to balance the news between Microsoft and Sony. Of course his crazy ass posts on REEEEEE.
Laconian Sword
Member
This goes for the theoretical teraflops "advantage" too. Going to be a lot of tears for people who base their self identity on the paper specs of their console. I would say the same thing if it was the reverse.
Benchmarks for individual components are mostly meaningless in systems designed and optimized for a particular purpose. Functions can be distributed across multiple weaker components, for example, with equal or better results achieved by tweaking other design knobs. There's a lot more flexibility when you aren't building a general purpose machine that has to conform to predefined interfaces.
Wrong on all counts
EverydayBeast
thinks Halo Infinite is a new graphical benchmark
That would be 4 generations in a row where the console isn’t a thousand dollars
Explosive Zombie
Banned
It wouldn't be the first console they sold at a loss.
Salmon Snake
Member
My granmother said me two hours ago that the price will shock you.
KingdomHeartsFan
Member
Go ahead and explain this.
vito_don_corleone_
Banned
No, it does not.
It was around 450USD in February. Perhaps now it's even lower:
www.bloomberg.com
It was around 450USD in February. Perhaps now it's even lower:
Sony Is Struggling With PlayStation 5 Price Due to Costly Parts
Scarce components have pushed the manufacturing costs for Sony Corp.’s next PlayStation to around $450 per unit, forcing a difficult price-setting decision in its battle with Microsoft Corp., according to people with knowledge of the matter.
www.bloomberg.com
Oddvintagechap
Member
PS5 Disc should be 399$
PS5 Discless should be 1.6 TB at 599$
PS5 Discless should be 1.6 TB at 599$
danielJackson
Banned
Are you two from US? Because from European viewpoint that sounds ridiculous.
Just so surreal that to some the situations seems to be seriously "people can get either one, both are feasible options and minor things can turn the heads to either one"
Because in reality xbox is almost non existent in many countries arount the world, like yeah they sell them, but there are no advertising and almost all console gamers have Playstation.
And console + gamepass+ all that stuff isnt 299, their deal were 25$ month for 24 months = 600$, so 150$ wasted to online service / year. And assuming that this monthly plan is cheaper than buying 299$ console + paying for those services, it is probably even more.
If people want cheap console, they just buy PS4, then buy games for 5-20€ and pay 40-60€/year for ps+.
If they want next gen, they probably get PS5 instead of more expensive xsex as majority already have ps4. (outside of US)
for 150$ you can get many games from sales/used, enough to play. Maybe for Americans it sounds like a good deal but no one I have asked thinks it is smart to pay for something you dont really need or can use, like having multiple video services if you have time to watch only one.
Only way here to make people buy xbox instead of ps5 would be some SUPER major fuck up by Sony.
Even at stores that sell games = 60-80% are PS4 games and rest are divided by switch/xbone
And xsex seems to cost 599€ here so it is DOA, even at 299-399€ it would probably sell les than 499-599€ PS5, that is how unpopular xbox brand just is.
Just weird how some people still believe that "fight" is somehow equal when most polls show that 70% or more are going to get PS5, and casuals usually follow what is popular.
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Explosive Zombie
Banned
Yeah, worldwide XBOX hasn't even left a dent, it's America where it's big and even then it's still behind SONY's PS4.