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#Phonepunk#
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What kind of occult wizardry is this?
ResurrectedContrarian
Suffers with mild autism
Great video, and I love hobbyist developers who do this kind of thing.
Whitecrow
Banned
What?
In what world is "not used in" the same as "it's nothing"?
Fake
Member
Don't waste your time.
deriks
4-Time GIF/Meme God
Most people knew that. The first Sonic was in the days that people were discovering stuff. I think they made 2 and still didn't know what the hell was this
Also,
D dark10x , make translation available on your videos. I want to do some to brazilian portuguese to help a few guys understanding this
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Jon Neu
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Birdo
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I spent my entire youth listening to friends saying that Sonic couldn't run on anything else, due to it running on Blast Processing.
You must understand how I feel now, knowing that it was bullshit. Allow me this little moment of retroactive smugness.
Fake
Member
Just one part of the music is better for me, but I believe is because the audio chip on SNES is superior.
AquaticSquirrel
Member
We've already been through this all in the other locked thread. This demo was also linked as video.
This tech demo is a fantastic technical achievement, especially considering it was all created by one person (to the best of my knowledge). I think it deserves a ton of praise and I love seeing things like this from a technologist perspective.
Having said that, this is a tech demo with only a single level. The physics are not exact as even the DF video mentions, the demo runs at a lower resolution due to SNES technical limitations. The scrolling speed has horizontal stuttering that is especially noticeable when they show the side by side screens moving at at a fast speed. There is also noticeable frame drops and slow down etc.. There is no boss and this level is the slowest of the Greenhill zones with the fewest loops etc so giving the smallest chances for fast acceleration etc... There is a reason this level was chosen to demo.
Similarly, Sonic The Hedgehog is also the slowest of the trilogy with Sonic 2 being significantly faster and adding the spin dash.
So, my answer is the same as the other thread. Could Sonic run on the SNES as is? With the same physics, numbers of enemies, effects, speed, resolution etc..? No. Could the SNES run some kind of approximation with various short comings and changes? Sure, it likely could, but then that wouldn't be the same thing.
This is a fun tech demo to discuss if we can leave 30 year old fanboy wars out of it for consoles that are long dead. Love seeing things like this and it must have been a huge effort from an incredibly talented guy.
Birdo
Banned
the_master
Member
Did anybody doubt that the snes coud run a reduced, slower port of Sonic?
You can see how the lack of blast processing shows in here
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cireza
Member
Blast Processing is a feature of the console that is very specific and was not used in many games. However it was used as a marketing slogan.
The guy who made the demo is actually porting Megaman X to the MegaDrive.
cireza
Member
Mario World does not use the full extend of the SNES palette, like many early games (Mario Kart, Zelda III) so it could run on MD with almost no color loss. Do you even know the consoles you talk about ?
Whitecrow
Banned
Oh I see : D
Ok ok dont worry, I'll let you enjoy your revenge ^^
Investor9872
Member
What a timely post. I literally just go the SNES mini, and am watching my wife plays through Mario RPG. I would love a remake of Mario RPG on the Switch. So many great games on the SNES mini. Can't wait to play FFIII (6 here in the US) again, along with Earthbound and Secret of Mana. Super Punch-Out is also on there, and I've never played it before. Had Punch-Out! arcade cabinet back in the day.
Spukc
always chasing the next thrill
man DF really talks rubbish at times. They have no flipping clue how some things work but use certain words to mask their lack of knowledge.. Just invite someone that actual knows. You can't know everything and that is perfectly fine. It's like asking me advice for the best hairdryer
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LarknThe4th
Member
I guess that other thread can be revived for this with an update right?
As always DF Retro continues to deliver the goods!
As always DF Retro continues to deliver the goods!
namekuseijin
Banned
it's 2020 and I've been inside Donkey Kong Country recreated by Dreams creators in VR
am I supposed to be impressed by this?
am I supposed to be impressed by this?
Portugeezer
Member
SEGA kids of the 90's just got wrecked.
SNES master race
Haters, come fight me in the playground.
SNES master race
Haters, come fight me in the playground.
LarknThe4th
Member
To be fair those kids got wrecked by the SNES actually in the 90s, so they should be used to it by now!SEGA kids of the 90's just got wrecked.
SNES master race
Haters, come fight me in the playground.
Soltype
Member
I feel bad for people that didn't have both, no way I could have settled with one system.
Faithless83
Banned
It's not running the same, it has slowdowns/missing frames and the file size of the first level is the entire genesis game.
Fanboys: "I knew it was just marketing"
Fanboys: "I knew it was just marketing"
LarknThe4th
Member
If I really had to pick one it would be the SNES cause Super Metroid and LTTP are basically the height of 2D videogames but fuck if it would suck not having a Megadrive(that's actually what I had) and missing out on Streets of Rage or Sonic would be awful
Evangelion Unit-01
Master Chief
I've been complaining about console wars on the forum for a while now but this is one I can get behind.
SNES for life.
SNES for life.
SEGA kids of the 90's just got wrecked.
SNES master race
Haters, come fight me in the playground.
....and on 03.12.94 a new master race was created.
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
By the end of the gen was what Sonic wasn't that extraordinary. Both systems were built to do similar things and utilized similar tech, so in truth I don't see it as much of an achievement techically.
The key thing is that with these 16/32-bit systems although the Genesis did have a distinct power processing power advantage being a 68000 not a buffed up 6502, the cpu's were never that instrumental, it was more about the video hardware which by design supported sprites and multiple scrolling playfields doing the heavy lifting.
Which is why if anyone was ever interested in seeing a real technical achievement in replicating what Sonic did, people should look at Brian The Lion or more pertinently Kid Chaos* on the Amiga (the latter which started out as a "giana sisters" style unlicensed clone.).
*I may have the title wrong, its been many years!
The key thing is that with these 16/32-bit systems although the Genesis did have a distinct power processing power advantage being a 68000 not a buffed up 6502, the cpu's were never that instrumental, it was more about the video hardware which by design supported sprites and multiple scrolling playfields doing the heavy lifting.
Which is why if anyone was ever interested in seeing a real technical achievement in replicating what Sonic did, people should look at Brian The Lion or more pertinently Kid Chaos* on the Amiga (the latter which started out as a "giana sisters" style unlicensed clone.).
*I may have the title wrong, its been many years!
bender
What time is it?
Futaleufu
Member
Have you ever stepped inside an arcade?
LarknThe4th
Member
When was Super Metroid in there?
Faithless83
Banned
It's so funny how you can trace parallels with this thread to a "current gen" one where it was stated that "PS5 was struggling to run RE8".
"See, this is proof The SSD was just marketing!"
"See, this is proof The SSD was just marketing!"
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