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[DF] Inside FSR 2.0 – The Making of FSR 2.0, AMD's Future Upgrades + the Xbox Connection
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squarealex
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Poor PS5 RDNA 1.5
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mansoor1980
Gold Member
arent there more important issues , like dx12/UE 4 shader comp stutter , to discuss so a permanent fix is developed
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
Was looking forward to this one.
It was teased some time ago.
Will edit this post if anything interesting is pointed out.
The Coalition seems to have no problem with shader comp stuttering.
So if a discussion is to be had it should be with every dev who actually has that problem.
It was teased some time ago.
Will edit this post if anything interesting is pointed out.
Funny I was just loading up the GPU Open and Inside Unreal talks from The Coalition.
The Coalition seems to have no problem with shader comp stuttering.
So if a discussion is to be had it should be with every dev who actually has that problem.
mansoor1980
Gold Member
well the coalition need to teach these other people a thing or two ASAP
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
I really dont understand it, cuz most of The Coalitions branches of Unreal Engine end up lending a bunch of features to the main branch, so id think whatever trickery they are using to not suffer this shit should be main branch by now.
mansoor1980
Gold Member
well its not just UE4 either , remember elden ring at launch , other engines have this issue too
Thirty7ven
Banned
LMAO I was expecting the goods and it was just a “yeah sure it’s also specifically optimized for certain platforms and Xbox is one such case” bahahahahaha
Hey fool me, I fell for the title, just bait for the idiots hilarious and they have the nerve to pretend they don’t feed on console warrior bs.
Hey fool me, I fell for the title, just bait for the idiots hilarious and they have the nerve to pretend they don’t feed on console warrior bs.
mansoor1980
Gold Member
DF should be renamed to PLATFORM WARS FOUNDARY
JimboJones
Member
It was announced as part of the Xbox dev kit so he asked the question about it's implementation.
I think your reading to much into it.
MasterCornholio
Member
It would have been nice if they asked about PlayStation as well. Oh well maybe next time.
JimboJones
Member
Has Sony made it available as part of their SDK? They are always very quite about it maybe AMD aren't allowed to talk about it publicly.
MasterCornholio
Member
Well DF never asked in the first place. As for whether or not it’s possible on the PS5 only Sony and AMD know the answer to that.
intbal
Member
Although Alex didn't ask, Nick's answer was pretty much universal. Especially when you take into account what he said later in the video about not incorporating ML hardware.
AMD has optimized FSR 2.0 for each GPU's inherent performance characteristics. That would include the PS5.
MasterCornholio
Member
Yes it certainly reminds me of the time when people said the PS5 couldn’t do HW RT. Makes sense to me.
JimboJones
Member
I don't think it's a question of possible, it's currently supported by specific engines which run on PS5 but Sony may not have it as part of their SDK.
MasterCornholio
Member
That makes sense. It’s like how Sony has Kraken as part of their SDK but Microsoft doesn’t have Kraken as part of theirs. But in theory developers can use Kraken if they wish.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Xbox and AMD continue to work closely together.
Looking forward to seeing fsr 2.0 games when they launch on console properly.
Forspoken will be a great one to check out.
Looking forward to seeing fsr 2.0 games when they launch on console properly.
Forspoken will be a great one to check out.
Bernd Lauert
Banned
nowhat
Member
...of what?
MasterCornholio
Member
He means that for both console manufacturers.
azertydu91
Hard to Kill
DF bias
SoraNoKuni
Member
Well, it's Alex.
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
Still shit in motion? It's useless then.
Kilau
Gold Member
So you think FSR 2.0 will be on PS5 too?
Bernd Lauert
Banned
Whining about how unfair DF is. Very sad, wow.
JimboJones
Member
Thread title had the word Xbox in it and he was triggered.Not sure whyEzekiel_ is putting a lol emote on the first post, this benefits the PS5 just at much you Muppet.
Zathalus
Member
Oh I know, just calling him out on the stupidity.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Lysandros
Member
They sure are expert pretenders.
Skifi28
Member
That's what you get when you overclock a 9TF machine. But I wouldn't give up just yet, maybe the SSD is so fast they can get FSR2 to run on that. We'll see.
JimboJones
Member
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Yes, it's coming to forspoken. It's been confirmed.
Just looks like amd and xbox have worked together to add it to the xbox dev environment now.
Kilau
Gold Member
Hmm, I prefer DLSS on my pc, hope it’s a great implementation of FSR 2.0 there.
On the second point, I would think working with Xbox is also like working with Windows at the same time for things like DirectX features. Makes sense Xbox would benefit from the relationship.
MasterCornholio
Member
On the flip side I don’t think it’s difficult or expensive to add it to PS5 games. Although it’s convenient to have it part of the SDK.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
I love digital foundry for this very reason.
SLB1904
Banned
It's obviously paid advertising. I don't know why people care.
“DF has to mention PS5 everytime they talk about Xbox or they’re fanboys!!”
the insecurity on display here is amusing.
Xbox has support for the tech In their SDK. Stands to reason why it’s coming up in a conversation with AMD.
AMD’s made it clear that FSR2 and any near to mid term updates won’t require ML hardware, so the PS5 will be supported too.
the insecurity on display here is amusing.
Xbox has support for the tech In their SDK. Stands to reason why it’s coming up in a conversation with AMD.
AMD’s made it clear that FSR2 and any near to mid term updates won’t require ML hardware, so the PS5 will be supported too.
MasterCornholio
Member
Lysandros
Member
What's the difference in matter 'ML hardware' in PS5/XSX?..
JimboJones
Member
AMD aren't using ML for their algorithms so it can be supported in lots of hardware, as long as it can run it fast enough which AMD seem to be aiming for 2ms or close to that.
Riky
$MSFT
I presume we'll see more when they can talk about Xbox Deathloop, which should be soon.
01011001
Banned
I honestly think we won't see many FSR2.0 games, most devs will continue to use either Unreal Engine's TSR or TAAU... or their own engine's up-sampling which are usually either on par with FSR2.0 or better.
interestingly Ghostwire Tokyo didn't use TSR on PS5 even tho it has TSR implementation on PC...
so render time could also be a factor. it could be that it simply is too taxing to use and devs will opt to just use a simple upscaler like Ghostwire Tokyo did on PS5
ToTTenTranz
Banned
They don't have to. FSR 1/2 are open source.
It could be that Sony's SDK already has the code for a temporal reconstruction technique of their own. Insomniac has been developing and implementing their own temporal solution for many years, for example.
UE isn't the only engine around, and even for that it's probably just a toggle like it is for TSR:
We'll need to see performance and quality comparisons on TSR vs. FSR2, but if they trade blows between hardware solutions then I don't see why they wouldn't make it available.
Regardless, due to its free and open source nature I think FSR2 will be made available on many indie to smaller AA titles that use lesser-known engines. Especially as it begins being implemented on consoles.
01011001
Banned
given that Ghostwire Tokyo didn't use TSR, most likely for performance reasons, I don't think it will be that popular with AAA titles. maybe some Indy games will use it for an easy way to optimize performance by simply dropping the internal res