geordiemp
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Its not amount of RAM, its Coherent RAM, remember ps4 also has coherency capability and detail below
Is this game Vulkan ?
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[DF] Horizon Zero Dawn PC: An Amazing Game Gets A Disappointing Port
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Its not amount of RAM, its Coherent RAM, remember ps4 also has coherency capability and detail below
Is this game Vulkan ?
They generate a point cloud of the terrain detail on GPU and then transfer it to CPU to use in vertex/index buffers for object rendering. The GPU->CPU synchronization path is never used in PC games AFAIR and probably DX12 is pretty ill suited for that.
VFXVeteran
Banned
Let me listen to the whole talk on the procedural placement. I don't think their algorithm is specific to just PS hardware.
rickyEGM
Banned
death stranding shits all over HZD. HZD can't even wipe death stranding's ass nibba.
bilderberg
Member
Switching from borderless back to full screen fixed my stuttering. Doesn't fix the crashing though. Did they even play this game before releasing it?
Stuart360
Member
I love the way HZD has gone so down in certain peoples minds, since going multiplatform.
Anyway HZD def has a lot more going on than Death Stranding, which is pretty much an empty world, beautiful, but empty.
As for the port, well i'm just glad i got the game cheap because if Sony/GG were willing to go on the cheap with the port, and employ a studio that by all accounts has done poor jobs before, why would i want to pay full price for a game in this state?.
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Stuart360
Member
I have 32gb and not seen the game go over 12gb yet. I have seen reports of the game having a memory leak, but it hasnt shown on Rivatuner yet for me.
Malakhov
Banned
That's very weird. I get 50fps in 1080p with everything on high with a rx470 with ultra models on. What's your cpu?
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VFXVeteran
Banned
Yea, I see that. Going from GPU->CPU is an odd pipeline. I wouldn't think that this has anything to do with the PS hardware though. It's probably a custom pipeline within the renderer that should work for any platform.
VFXVeteran
Banned
That procedural pipeline is very powerful. I can tell those guys love the Houdini application. It's hard to grasp, but when you do, it's extremely powerful. I don't see them redesigning this system at all for HFW. It works beautifully and definitely artist friendly.
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VFXVeteran
Banned
I am unable to see the GPU stats with EVGA X1 Precision. I'm not sure why my toggle of the OSD key isn't working. I even turned off the overlay in steam.
Stuart360
Member
Just use Afterburner and Rivatuner, its the best and works well with this game.
Because of unified RAM on console the detail generation step costs them nothing.
On PC it will incur a GPU->CPU sync penalty...
They probably could rewrite it for PC CPU. But it may be a lot of work.
VFXVeteran
Banned
Yeap, I can see that - copying from GPU to CPU memory. But I dont' think it's the cause of these frame-pacing issues on the game. It could be the case, but I think we'd see it no matter what FPS. At 30FPS locked, it runs really smoothly no matter what's presented.
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On 30 fps GPU has much more time to sync.
Like 2x the time. Sync is all about latency of a cache flush. Therefore something that you can get away with in a 32ms frame you may utterly miss in a 16ms one. And they probably don't even do it each frame.
VFXVeteran
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Yea, if that's the case, I don't see them rewriting that code. That's a lot of redesign. I guess they could wrap the "Copy" code around another layer for portablity reasons.
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sendit
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My setup isn’t qualified to make any opinions on that. I have a 1080p panel that runs at 240hz (Link)no HDR. When it comes to PC gaming, I am generally biased towards a superior input for aiming (mouse and keyboard) and the fine tuning I can do with the graphic settings to increase my overall frame rate. I’m running this game at well over 100 FPS with a 2080 Ti at 1080p with a mixture of medium to ultra settings.
Mouse and keyboard has actually made Ultra difficulty pretty easy for me.
waylo
Banned
Game runs alright for me. Using the ultra preset at 1440p and my 3800X/2060 is getting anywhere from 40-60 FPS. I feel like G-Sync probably helps me a lot as well. Not noticing any stuttering of the sort. Also, not a crash yet (roughly two hours in). Can't wait to play some more when I get home from work tonight.
KingT731
Member
First off don't call me nibba. Keep your trolling elsewhere.
How?
I see that someone found a trojan-horse in the Nexus file. I’d like to fix 21:9 myself.
Thugnificient
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1. Download the hex editor here: https://mh-nexus.de/en/hxd/
2. Launch the HxD
3. File>Open
4. Locate the HZD exe file located in "\steamapps\common\Horizon Zero Dawn" and open it
5. In HxD at the top click Search>Replace
6. Select the tab Hex-values in the search box
7. In the "Search for" field, enter 39 8E E3 3F
8. In the "Replace by" field you have to select the appropriate value listed at the end of the post. Make sure to set "Search direction" on the right-hand side to "All"
9. Click "Replace All"
10. Click File>Save or Save As, basically, it changed the hex values of the exe and we have to replace the old exe with our edited one
*Note: This doesn't fix the title screen. It'll still be blurry on the sides but all in-game cutscenes should be fixed by this.
21:9 Resolutions:
2560x1080 = 26 B4 17 40
3440x1440 = 8E E3 18 40
3840x1600 = 9A 99 19 40
5120x2160 = 26 B4 17 40
6880x2880 = 8E E3 18 40
32:9 Resolutions:
3840x1080 = 39 8E 63 40
3840x1440 = AB AA 2A 40
5120x1440 = 39 8E 63 40
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Md Ray
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DirectX 12 only.
I’ve spent quite a bit of time in the area you explore before you go to the proving. I’m wondering if this is a Hinterlands situation, and I should get the hell out of there? It’s a fascinating area. I’m also learning how the game works. This is much more.... cerebral than I thought.
Thugnificient
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Nah it isn’t. You won’t stay stuck there for 15 hours. Maybe 2 at most.
Aja
Neo Member
I've played for some 10-15 hours right now. Not a single crash so far but it is stuttering a bit now and then. I play on a 1440 144hz monitor. AMD adrenalin says I'm getting like 74 frames avarage with the settings I have.
I play on a ryzen 3800x with nitro 5700xt card and 16 gigs of 3600 (oc'd) RAM. Game is installed on my ssd.
Works good on my end but some better aliasing would not hurt and the game looks kinda washed out I think.
I have fun though!
I play on a ryzen 3800x with nitro 5700xt card and 16 gigs of 3600 (oc'd) RAM. Game is installed on my ssd.
Works good on my end but some better aliasing would not hurt and the game looks kinda washed out I think.
I have fun though!
TriSuit666
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You can spend quite a bit of time there, but the plot opens up naturally and you'll feel when it's right to move on.
888
Member
Alt F4. Then click no.
To make this game sing you really need a constant 60 FPS and an HDR display - I think this is a game that just isn’t going to cut it on an inferior PC.
At the very least you need Gsync. Also, speaking of HDR, anybody who thinks it’s just a gimmick only has to see it enabled in this game. It’s transformative.
At the very least you need Gsync. Also, speaking of HDR, anybody who thinks it’s just a gimmick only has to see it enabled in this game. It’s transformative.
Polygonal_Sprite
Gold Member
Why is this happening mate???????
You’ve always said PS4 exclusives were just made on a PC then downscaled to work on a lowly console ???????
Should be an easy fix, no??????
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Spukc
always chasing the next thrill
what
the
fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck man,
this is sony's plan let pc people think they are better off getting a console.
drotahorror
Member
Aw wtf, this is one of the reasons I'm replaying. I couldn't wait to see the DLC I never played and see the snow deformation. That's a big bummer, I love graphical effects like that.
TriSuit666
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That subreddit is saying it may be because there are debug strings present in the shipping code.
Lanrutcon
Member
i9-9900k, 32 GB RAM, RTX 2070 Super, running off an SSD. 1080p on ultra is butter, 2560 × 1440 on high is 60fps only when not in a hectic fight or a crowded city.
Like that opening scene before the proving when you move through the party? that was murder.
Been playing on 1080p. Maybe I can bump it up after some patching?
Why is this happening mate???????
You’ve always said PS4 exclusives were just made on a PC then downscaled to work on a lowly console ???????
Should be an easy fix, no??????
Please leave the development discussions to the adults and continue doing whatever it is you do for a living. It probably involves fries.
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sendit
Member
Yup. Along with missing hair physics in the PC version. I noticed this when trekking through the snow and remembering how the PS4 version was. Thinking in my head "hmmm...something feels off". Not faulting GG as they didn't handle the port, but Sony should have given the port to a more capable team.
Miggytronz
Member
this is extremely disappointing as i was looking forward to a day one purchase but after the initial reviews..........oooof i'm not touching this until optimization is corrected.
sendit
Member
Steam allows you to refund a purchase if you've played the game for less than 2 hours (no questions asked). However, given the torrent route. I'm sure you didn't have plans to purchase this.
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idrago01
Banned
How the hell does this happen, weren't they touting this feature for the DLC
Polygonal_Sprite
Gold Member
Oh calm down it was a joke ffs.
Thugnificient
Banned
Heavy rainfall tanks your fps.
Insane Metal
Member
Oops
Malakhov
Banned
I can get 30fps in 2k, this game is inconsistent with what people are getting. Hopefully there will be a fix, im just glad I can enjoy this on mine, it's gorgeous and quite fun so far.
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