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DF: Control on PS5 Tech Review
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Neo_game
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I am not sure regarding the upgrades from last gen consoles. It was 1080P on Pro and 1440P on the X. I thought 60fps and RT is the only difference apart from resolution boost since it is running low-medium settings anyways.
Tickle My Tendies
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Just played for about 20 minutes, just wanted to check it out before going to bed.
Yeah, it looks pretty good but clear difference between the PC version at 1440p/ultra. The low settings really show, especially if you were just playing it on a good PC.
I also am a little distracted by that artifacting DF mentioned around the character in front of certain backgrounds. I've even noticed it, to a lesser extent, on RT mode.
I am probably gonna stick with 60 fps mode, feels great.
Yeah, it looks pretty good but clear difference between the PC version at 1440p/ultra. The low settings really show, especially if you were just playing it on a good PC.
I also am a little distracted by that artifacting DF mentioned around the character in front of certain backgrounds. I've even noticed it, to a lesser extent, on RT mode.
I am probably gonna stick with 60 fps mode, feels great.
Shmunter
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It will be based on last gen no doubt. You don’t throw the baby out with the bath water. And yes, it means results are tied to those platforms.
A 60fps / res unlock would have been sufficient unless planning to play it in 30 frames per second RT
Can't find anything on AUS store? We should be getting this first
Edit: Found it.
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three_muffins
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I know it makes you a master troll.
Lethal01
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those would be your screenspace reflections but they might not be turned on for all surfaces in the game.
Spiderman in 2018 had these reflections without using RT.
Building don't move. Control has different requirements than spider-man. adding a cubemap would just lead to a super inaccurate reflection with 70% of the object very clearly missing.
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Quantum253
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Looks good. Looking forward to playing the first time when I get a PS5 and being on PS+ sweetens the deal. Also, just in time for Control, CD keys has a good deal going for PS+ 1year $29.93. Got a couple years over Christmas and everything worked okay.
https://www.cdkeys.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=ps+
https://www.cdkeys.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=ps+
THE DUCK
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Tried them both (ps5 and series x), pretty similar in performance. Both have the same bad blurring in quality mode when you turn, (yes motion blur was turned off). I swear at the beginning I was seeing frame drops on the x but the sections I was comparing a bit later into the game seemed similar, maybe slight edge to ps5 for movement and slight edge to x for image quality? The ps5 has the added benefit haptic feedback/triggers. And I think it loaded a bit faster.
To me neither looks amazing, seems like kind of a lazy enhancement to me on both, either machine could do better than this you would think. Or maybe the game just doesn't look that great period.....I never played it elsewhere other than a few minutes.
To me neither looks amazing, seems like kind of a lazy enhancement to me on both, either machine could do better than this you would think. Or maybe the game just doesn't look that great period.....I never played it elsewhere other than a few minutes.
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supernova8
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Sure I'm open to the possibility and I'd welcome it but considering they spent so much money on the SSD (and could've made the system cheaper if they didn't) it's a case of I'll believe it when I see it.
Mister Wolf
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I'm still waiting for how it "effectively doubles the VRAM". Horizon 2 is a PS4 game and I'm expecting GOW to be as well so I hope they have something hidden to make good on that claim. The instantaneous loading really isn't that impressive to me in Demon Souls and R&C, not when they talked how the SSD would improve visuals.
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DemonCleaner
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what really boogles my mind is that we are seeing geometry saving efforts with these ports. there really shouldn't be the necessety for lowering LODs and shadow quality with these new APUs. makes no sence whatsoever.
Tchu-Espresso
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If you are interested in playing this game in quality mode, do yourself a favour and don’t even try performance mode, because switching back to quality mode will make the game feel very sluggish.
HAL-01
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They most likely took the PS4 and Xbox builds and injected some pc code into it to make these ports. They’ve stated before they didn’t have a lot of resources to go deep with the optimization
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SlimySnake
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Could it be because they are running in BC GCN modes? i dont think any of the new rdna features are being utilized here. they are just slapping on RT on top of the BC ports because it's so well integrated.
Justin9mm
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That's every game mate, your eyes eventually adjust and the feeling goes away after a small amount of time.
I see this same comment on every thread between modes lol
Obviously 60fps is superior but you do adjust to the 30fps.
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JimboJones
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I think we'll be waiting until unreal engine 5, epic seems to be the only other one really on board with wanting such fast SSD speeds apart from Sony.
DJ12
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Ride 4 which uses UE4 loads considerably faster on PS5, so whatever they are doing has filtered into the current branch also in some way
Physiognomonics
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I think 27fps is how low it got on PS5 with RT.Thanks for testing, I think the lowest it went to was ~27 fps with raytracing and ~58fps without. Btw how loud was the laptop?
Stilton Disco
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We're seeing games around 3060 or better performance already and, as is the case every generation, as time goes on further optimisation will continue to provide better results on console, while those equivalent PC specs fall behind.
Like last gen, where at first a 750 ti was more than enough to match or exceed the PS4, but was woefully inadequate in the last few years.
But yes, anyone wanting the maximum possible settings isn't getting that with a $400 PS5. If you want the absolute best, you need to pony up the few grand needed for it and keep doing so each year as those parts become out of date.
Realistically, once you have exceeded a certain performance level, you should be good for the entire generation. Last generation, a GTX 970 was fine until almost the end. (At 1080p)
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TriSuit666
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Tried DF’s suggested PS5 settings on the PC version last night, oh, you poor console peons. PCMR redeemed!
Tchu-Espresso
likes mayo on everthing and can't dance
No it’s more an input lag issue on quality mode that is worse than the last gen versions.
Superayate
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I think that's more a game that was simply better done for RTX Nvidia GPU, a good demo of RT effects. So it better used Nvidia chip, that's why it's not crazy on PS5 and XsX, but overall it's not bad on these consoles with the 60fps mode.
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Tchu-Espresso
likes mayo on everthing and can't dance
The XSX experiences minor FPS drops in scenes that the PS5 does not.
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kyliethicc
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so is this a PC with a RTX 2080 playing the PS5 settings of Control at 1440p?
oh its a laptop 2080 ok well somewhat similar to the 60 on PS5, considering the console version is capped at 60 max. and clearly control loves Nvidia GPUs.
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kyliethicc
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what settings was this test done with? 1440p and those settings from the DF PS5 video?Here's how it runs on an RX 6800 (doing laps for 90s around Central Exec), tho keep in mind we can't go as low as PS5:
Shmunter
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Which settings do you play on?
StreetsofBeige
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Loading test at 1:30 mark.
Series X 6.73 seconds
PS5 6.70 seconds
PS5 faster by 3/100ths of a second.
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Rikkori
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Same as DF PS5, except as mentioned where it can't go lower (eg LOD) it's just on 'low'.
Armorian
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Most likely 900p or below.
Superayate
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Seems the two versions are really on par. The minor fps drops we see in the video seem pretty bizarre no ?? (same "form factor" with the two consoles, appeared few more on Series X in the video):
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kyliethicc
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its almost as if Remedy can't just build their engine around the PS5 SSD because the game is also on xbox and pc
StreetsofBeige
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It's Remedy.
Their games (at least console versions) never run ultra smooth. It's all about game engines that have some physics or whatever. Alan Wake, Quantum Break, Control etc.
Game resolution and frame rate are low on the priority list.
Radical_3d
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Sorry, it was late at night and I read “I purchased this gaming PC”.
kyliethicc
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Ok thanks. Well thats not bad the for the PS5 then.
Its got far fewer shaders than the AMD RX 6800, similar clocks, but the PS5 lacks the infinity cache for bandwidth, uses less power, and only has 16 GB of VRAM, some of which isn't for the games to use, while this PC has 16 GB VRAM + 16 GB DRAM. Idk how the Intel CPU compares to the PS5's CPU.
Considering that PC got an average of 60 FPS with some dips, just like the PS5, but has a stronger RDNA2 GPU, at about the same settings, I'd say the PS5 is a solid system and good value.
That 6800 GPU costs more than the entire PS5 lol.
kuncol02
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Amazing channel. They have 4 videos about Hitman 3. None of them has comparison between PS5 and XSX. I don't understand how someone can do so much of hard work and then throw away own integrity because your favorite console is not winning in one game.
alabtrosMyster
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TriSuit666
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Think I'd already mentioned but 1440p/4k, Ultra, High RTX settings, all knobs and dials set to max/ultra/high/bust the fps's.
I personally think with this game it's the higher RT settings (contact shadows, etc) that contribute to prettying up the rough edges of the textures, certainly Jessie goes from looking like her eyes are bulging out her face to somewhat normal with them on.
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supernova8
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I guess if it really is as big a "paradigm shift" as some developers make it out to be, we may end up having to wait until half way through the generation to actually see something interesting in that regard.
It's all well and good to have Epic showing that Unreal engine demo when there's nothing really going on actual gameplay/AI wise but like you I want to see the goods.
It really makes me glad I didn't cave and pay the crazy scalper prices for either console.
Who said can run better? Not me.
I'm just saying the argument PC are better than console cause pc can run programs is a nonsense, since games are programs, and in a world where modern fridge can run doom.
Bulletbrain
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But isn't this a valid comparison? It's the same game running on different hardware. To test and compare the SSD performances the application must by default be multi platform. We can't compare the SSD performance using an exclusive title, since we don't have the game available in other platforms!
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Leyasu
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VG tech and NX Gamer have both ignored Hitman also...
I just watched that video. Nothing in it
kyliethicc
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sure but don't pretend like Control is demonstrating the maximum loading speed of the PS5's SSD, its not.
A PC PS5 XBSX multiplat dev might just build their loading around say SATA SSDs on PC and therefore the loading on consoles would be unoptimized and slower that it could be, etc.
Kenpachii
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Main reason i would want to upgrade really. if nvidia drops a actual half decent upgrade of a card on the market.