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Rumor Deus Ex 5: Square is going to do what CDPR wanted for Cyberpunk 2077 + Legacy Kain IP Reboot, New Tomb Raider...

Papacheeks

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From Reddit:

Leaker (aka 0006) disappeared without a trace one year ago, and all the claims/leaks he made have been proven at least semi accurate. He not only leaked that Deus Ex V was in development but that FFXVI was too and other Square Enix IPs.

The funny thing was that Jason Schreier said he was fake and that Final Fantasy 16 doesn't exist, but the game was announced at the SONY conference Aug 2020, 4 months later after he said it was fake .
[On ResetEra Schreier weighed in on that post by 0006 for those wondering when this happened]

He said that the todays database leak from GeforceNow just confirmed he indeed was true about the Deus Ex leak and that he would be done to talk about other IPs.
Previous posts: Here
(Keep in mind some of the things he said was bs such as the Avengers villain being HYDRA and that he had seen the 2016 build of the game which had them as placeholders.)

Link to Deus Ex V being confirmed via database leak: Here| January 30th 2020, was when he confirmed Deus Ex 5 which was double confirmed today via the database leaks.

He works high up in a gaming company and I mean high up. Like I probably said too much already.
edit: he has friends from Ubisoft and SONY but said he will update you lot later on.


Updating this every few minutes:
  • FF 16 will be out between 2022 - 2023 depending on the 'work ethic' of Square Enix, will be the biggest FF game to date, will not be 'dry and empty as FF 15'.
  • FF 7 Part 2 - Will be out in 2023 and will be 'different' from part 1
  • FF 9 Remake - Is in development but will not be announced till FF 7 Part 2 gets released since 'they dont want to make the same mistake they did with 7 announcing it too early'
  • FF 14 - A lot more expansions are in the pipeline.
  • FF Stranger Paradise - Looks and plays like shit even in the latest build (graphics are severely 'bad' compared to FF 16)
  • New Tomb Raider - Will not be out till the Netflix series drops which is set for 2022 since its going to tie into the series.
  • NO new Sleeping Dogs - Told me the studio has not pursued this IP since failed pitch attempts.| update told me that a Sleeping Dogs film will start filming next year and if done good might be the push Square Enix needs to reboot the game
  • Legacy Kain IP Reboot - Is in early development and is going to be fully single player game since NOSGOTH the failed multiplayer 'soft' reboot did poorly.
  • Neir - two unannounced Neir games are in development : One being a sequel to Automata and another being a spin off
  • NO main series new kingdom Hearts game in development :( but said spin off will happen within a few years time, since there in active development. Again NO main series.
  • Disney has TOLD them if GOTG is a 'failure' like Avengers there in trouble.
  • Forspoken - Is of the best games Square has made in a decade and said if successful they will expand the IP since there's more stories to tell.
  • Deus Ex V - is a soft reboot of the franchise and he tells me its in early development will not release till 2025 at the least. He said that Square is going to do what CD project Red wanted for Cyperpunk 2077. Adam is the MAIN character. This game will be massive and thats the reason why is going to take a long time to development
  • NO Chaos Heat game
  • NO Balan Wonderworld and he said never again will they make another one again
  • NO Kane and Lynch game
  • Laughed when I mentioned Parasite Eve and said Square for some odd reasons doesn't want to touch 'classics' like parasite eve.

Yea i teased some of this stuff back on reset a year or so ago. Mainly the Marvel/Disney stuff where Disney is not happy with Square on the properties they have been doing for Marvel. Hence more titles going to Sony's studios. ANd not just Insomniac.

Legacy of Kain rumor has been around for a while. COuple concept artists I talk to on old CG TALK forums said they've seen some early art concepts and its very PS2 era in terms of how they want this game to be in terms of appeal. Would not surprise me if it ends up Playstation exclusive. I"ve heard Sony's stock investment they made to Square as a partner has made them very cozy, and a lot of their games you will see have exclusivity for some time. I believe all mainline FF games will have long exclusivity similar to FFVIIR but with Steam/Epic release being sooner rather than later.
 

Hugare

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Bahahaha, yeah

They are totally giving Deus Ex a huge budget and development time. Hilarious.

They werent even satisfied by Tomb Raider sales, imagine how they felt about Mankind Divided. The franchise is dead while its on Square's hands.

Eidos Montreal will be the Marvel studio until Marvel finally says "guys, you tried, ok?"

This whole thing is fake / safe assumptions

FF XVI being released in 2022? No shit
 
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TGO

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Only one put me high hope is FF9 Remake.
Anyway, too sad he didn't mention FF8 Remake which is my preferable one. :(
One it's fake, two FFIX got a simple mobile port from SE
They actually bothered with a Remaster for FFVIII and gave it a physical release.
Think about that.
 

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Legacy of Kain reboot.
A new Deus Ex more similar to GTA than the previous entries.
I'm not buying it.
 

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Legacy Kain IP Reboot - Is in early development and is going to be fully single player game

Backstreet Boys 90S GIF
 
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Yeah, I don't believe the KH part, mostly because it seems that people still doesn't understand that KH almost doesn't have spinoffs.Almost all games are "main" games, even if there is no number associated with it.

And given KH3 massive success, doubt that Square didn't greenlit a new game.
 

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Was there a massive change in executives at SE in the past one or two years? If not, this doesn't make any sense with their long standing strategy of having zero trust and irrationally excessive expectations with all their western IPs.

Also, I don't know if saying "A new Final Fantasy and a new Deus Ex are in development at Square Enix" counts as a big prediction, worthy of taking everything else at face value.
 

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FF16 - Will be halfway done when released in 2024 with a solid gameplay core but missing a lot of attention to detail and acutdown none sense story.

everything else will be cancled.
 
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Kuranghi

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New Tomb Raider - Will not be out till the Netflix series drops which is set for 2022 since its going to tie into the series.

So is that referring to the animated series with Hayley Atwell? Or is there a live action series as well?

Her VO sounds like a good fit for the character so I'm pretty into the casting, so I wouldn't mind a new Tomb Raider game with her, I just hope its more like the originals, less conflict and more puzzles/climbing/platforming.

I just can't bring myself to start SotTR because I don't want to be let down again after Rise.
 

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Reading something like square is making deus ex followed by no more parasite eve because they don't want to redo the classics is some shit. I'm glad deus ex is getting attention, but does anyone over there know what the fuck they are doing? It seems like every few years square might accidentally release an above average game in between their usual garbage.
Dues Ex is owned by Square Enix Ltd.
Parasite Eve is owned by Square Enix Co. Ltd (alongside the creator of the novel).
The two belong to the same group of companies and share publishing/localization duties, but each control their studios/IP separately.

I'm still waiting for PC ports of PE1&2. :messenger_loudly_crying:
 
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I would have preferred if they made a sequel to Mankind Divided just to finish Adam Jensen's story and then do a proper Deus Ex 5 with a new character later on. I hope all the plot-points of Mankind Divided and the awesome fan-theories don't just get ignored due to a soft-reboot if this leaker is correct.
 

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He said that the todays database leak from GeforceNow just confirmed he indeed was true about the Deus Ex leak and that he would be done to talk about other IPs.

There's no leak to be had from the Geforce Now database, unless you also think Nintendo is going to let Nvidia pirate some of the former's games through the Dolphin emulator on Geforce Now.
 

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Regarding Deus Ex - it sounds too good to be true. So I won’t believe it for one second. Square Enix has proven they are clueless
 

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You know a leak is fake af when they use phrases like "its going to be the biggest game to date" and "it is one of the best games they have made" instead of giving actual details.
 
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From Reddit:

Leaker (aka 0006) disappeared without a trace one year ago, and all the claims/leaks he made have been proven at least semi accurate. He not only leaked that Deus Ex V was in development but that FFXVI was too and other Square Enix IPs.

The funny thing was that Jason Schreier said he was fake and that Final Fantasy 16 doesn't exist, but the game was announced at the SONY conference Aug 2020, 4 months later after he said it was fake .
[On ResetEra Schreier weighed in on that post by 0006 for those wondering when this happened]

He said that the todays database leak from GeforceNow just confirmed he indeed was true about the Deus Ex leak and that he would be done to talk about other IPs.
Previous posts: Here
(Keep in mind some of the things he said was bs such as the Avengers villain being HYDRA and that he had seen the 2016 build of the game which had them as placeholders.)

Link to Deus Ex V being confirmed via database leak: Here| January 30th 2020, was when he confirmed Deus Ex 5 which was double confirmed today via the database leaks.

He works high up in a gaming company and I mean high up. Like I probably said too much already.
edit: he has friends from Ubisoft and SONY but said he will update you lot later on.


Updating this every few minutes:
  • FF 16 will be out between 2022 - 2023 depending on the 'work ethic' of Square Enix, will be the biggest FF game to date, will not be 'dry and empty as FF 15'.
  • FF 7 Part 2 - Will be out in 2023 and will be 'different' from part 1
  • FF 9 Remake - Is in development but will not be announced till FF 7 Part 2 gets released since 'they dont want to make the same mistake they did with 7 announcing it too early'
  • FF 14 - A lot more expansions are in the pipeline.
  • FF Stranger Paradise - Looks and plays like shit even in the latest build (graphics are severely 'bad' compared to FF 16)
  • New Tomb Raider - Will not be out till the Netflix series drops which is set for 2022 since its going to tie into the series.
  • NO new Sleeping Dogs - Told me the studio has not pursued this IP since failed pitch attempts.| update told me that a Sleeping Dogs film will start filming next year and if done good might be the push Square Enix needs to reboot the game
  • Legacy Kain IP Reboot - Is in early development and is going to be fully single player game since NOSGOTH the failed multiplayer 'soft' reboot did poorly.
  • Neir - two unannounced Neir games are in development : One being a sequel to Automata and another being a spin off
  • NO main series new kingdom Hearts game in development :( but said spin off will happen within a few years time, since there in active development. Again NO main series.
  • Disney has TOLD them if GOTG is a 'failure' like Avengers there in trouble.
  • Forspoken - Is of the best games Square has made in a decade and said if successful they will expand the IP since there's more stories to tell.
  • Deus Ex V - is a soft reboot of the franchise and he tells me its in early development will not release till 2025 at the least. He said that Square is going to do what CD project Red wanted for Cyperpunk 2077. Adam is the MAIN character. This game will be massive and thats the reason why is going to take a long time to development
  • NO Chaos Heat game
  • NO Balan Wonderworld and he said never again will they make another one again
  • NO Kane and Lynch game
  • Laughed when I mentioned Parasite Eve and said Square for some odd reasons doesn't want to touch 'classics' like parasite eve.
Schreier is a complete idiot who knows absolutely nothing
 

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So is that referring to the animated series with Hayley Atwell? Or is there a live action series as well?

Her VO sounds like a good fit for the character so I'm pretty into the casting, so I wouldn't mind a new Tomb Raider game with her, I just hope its more like the originals, less conflict and more puzzles/climbing/platforming.

I just can't bring myself to start SotTR because I don't want to be let down again after Rise.

Shadow of TR is pretty much what you wanted tbh, just has a shit story and shitter characters behind it. There's like...5 major combat scenarios that I can think of.
 
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Kuranghi

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Shadow of TR is pretty much what you wanted tbh, just has a shit story and shitter characters behind it. There's like...5 major combat scenarios that I can think of.

Right okay, that sounds good. All the videos I've seen always focused on the giant set piece that I think look janky compared to Uncharted and stealth bullshit where she stalking guys covered in mud so I presumed it was like the previous titles in that regard, ie loads of battles.

I have it sitting there I should just try it really. My favourite part of 2013 was exploring the environments in 2013, the tombs were okay but most were trivial to the point of disappointment. I've heard the tombs are much better here though. Cheers for the input.

I'll just refill my drink/roll a splif when there is a cutscene lol.
 
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Shut0wen

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They can do whatever they want with Adam Jensen. Don't care.

JC, Paul, and Alex are Deus Ex. Everything else is Squeenix Ex.
Come on square did good with human revolution, way better then invisible wars, i still stand that mankind divided is the worst one in the franchise
 

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Come on square did good with human revolution, way better then invisible wars, i still stand that mankind divided is the worst one in the franchise

I didn't say HR and MD were bad games.
But Square's DX universe just isn't the same as the Ion Storm DX universe.

They call them prequels, but the nature of the world and tone of the stories is radically different. I consider them to be different properties that just coincidentally have the same name. And so, as I posted, Square can do whatever they want with Adam Jensen because he's their character. The original Deus Ex universe was a completed story with its own characters that came to an end in Invisible War (literally came to an end, if you've ever played Invisible War).