What if a millionaire wants to waste his money on a game? Why does he have to be limited because of dumb people?
Yes, both the dad and the son were dumb. The dad because he gave his credit card details to his son, and the son because you should realize money is real when you're 17 years-old. And if he does and he's lying (I find it hard to believe him), then he should face the consequences for his actions.
Let's stop blaming others for people's mistakes.
In theory this is a nice idea however the account owner is likely the kid with the credit card in question.ms and Sony need updated policies
- limit on how much you can spend on DLC per day
- go over the limit, it requires additional authorisation via email or text message to confirm.
So if the account owner isn't paying attention to their receipt emails, they won't be able to respond and it'll stay blocked.
Wait, what? Is there some sort of way to buy a temporary or rental license for Fifa..."He's just as sick as I am, [because] he never believed he was being charged for every transaction, or every time he went onto the game."
I can see what you mean, but an 8k hit to a family can really hurt them, even ruin their lives. The 17 year old is an idiot, but EA are selling virtual goods they have an infinite amount of, it seems kind of cruel to ruin someones life because of this
There needs to be better checks and balances on MTs in general, no game in the world is worth 8k, you should not be allowed or able to spend that much
I think we are missing the point. The fact MT reached such an incredible value is obsurd and this should be the focus! Micro Transactions are total BS and this very economy unfolding before you is unacceptable. Mature gamers which have lived through althe gaming generations would attest to this and i hope this article highlights the fraud that MT business is.
There are already MANY checks in place.
Do Microsoft and Sony REALLY need to handhold you through everything?
You can setup multiple security measures with a bank to make sure that this never happens. The price of said item being purchased and the amount of screens before it finalizes the purchase is enough to let you know that you will be charged.
Yes $8000 is damaging for the family but there are MANY security measures that the Mother/Father could have taken to not allow their son to just wildly spend.
Sorry, but if EA want to set up Microtransactions in their game, as long as there are warnings that it's real world money being spent and confirmation that real world money is being spent, then let them. Microsoft ADVERTISED Parental Controls and it even shows it at the beginning of the account creation/transfer.
Exactly. I have a difficult time siding with the companies on this as the transaction was for something that is basically worthless. Bankrupting a family over digital boosters in a game is insane.The sad thing is. That shit like this could potentially fuck up a family's life to the extent of them going bankrupt or being piss poor. There needs to be laws on this type of shit. If my kids spent 8000$ I'd be fucked and wouldn't recover for quite awhile.
Yeah and I get all that, and I do agree with you, It's just ruining someones life by forcing them to pay for something when you have an infinite supply of what you sold them just seems cruel, even though the 17 year old is in the wrong
We all did stupid things when we were young (I didn't do anything this stupid, but still)
You shouldn't be able to spend 8k on a single video game anyway, the fact that is even possible is a concern. I doubt I've spent 8k on gaming in my entire life
Exactly. I have a difficult time siding with the companies on this as the transaction was for something that is basically worthless. Bankrupting a family over digital boosters in a game is insane.
There needs to be a limit on spending possible.
Exactly. I have a difficult time siding with the companies on this as the transaction was for something that is basically worthless. Bankrupting a family over digital boosters in a game is insane.
There needs to be a limit on spending possible.
Exactly. I have a difficult time siding with the companies on this as the transaction was for something that is basically worthless. Bankrupting a family over digital boosters in a game is insane.
There needs to be a limit on spending possible.
Exactly. I have a difficult time siding with the companies on this as the transaction was for something that is basically worthless. Bankrupting a family over digital boosters in a game is insane.
There needs to be a limit on spending possible.
Exactly. I have a difficult time siding with the companies on this as the transaction was for something that is basically worthless. Bankrupting a family over digital boosters in a game is insane.
There needs to be a limit on spending possible.
While this story could've ended less absurdly if common sense was used by either of the two stupid sods in question, it does remind me of how well Nintendos been treating f2p. In the Pokemon f2p games, which have the classic energy/crystal mechanic, there's a hard spend limit at I think £30. So the most you can spend before they remove all the energy nonsense is the price of a regular game. It's pretty clever and if similar price limits were the law across all f2p these stories could finally stop popping up.
But why? Why blame companies for your own actions of greed, can't afford them, don't buy them. Buying them and then claiming you didn't know what you were doing is just dumb.
It's almost on par with roaming charges, but I can accept that SOME people might not realise that their allowances don't work in other countries. But damn, it's not like it doesn't tell you that when you buy FIFA credits it's going to be charging you a set amount of real money.
Yes, it's a shame they're in this situation but how much more hand holding is needed in the gaming community?
Microsoft ADVERTISED Parental Controls and even tells you about it when creating accounts/transferring them.
Some people might have the money to spend that much on video game items, let them be. So many times I read articles about someone just buying and buying and going through confirmation screen after confirmation screen, yet they somehow always try and blame the Developer/Publisher.
Sorry, but in no way is Microsoft or EA in the wrong here. They hand hold you through every purchase so this kid KNEW what he was doing.
Too bad his dad is not Lorde.The son knew he was spending $8k on virtual mystery card packs, he has an addiction.
Because it's uncontrolled gambling. If you want to be a casino, you should be subject to casino rules.
The dad probably didn't even know this was possible, or that the console had/needed paternal controls, he's probably in his 40s and has no idea about modern gaming, a lot of people don't, you can't expect or demand him to research all this
If a game is designed where its possible to spend 8k and you can still spend more, then it's a poorly and unfairly designed, exploitative game, and that shouldn't be defended.
For every millionaire who is happy to blow 10k on the game there will be thousands of people who can't afford to and get sucked into the skinner box like tactics employed to convince the vulnerable to keep on paying
There really needs to be a law for returning digital currency or content for a full refund. This problem has been running rampant for years now with no good solution other than. "Keep a better eye on your kids."
-shrugs- But what can you do?
Not really, it's not gambling, you know what you are buying, you buy the coins and with those you purchase the packs or whatever else you wish to spend them on.
Not really, it's not gambling, you know what you are buying, you buy the coins and with those you purchase the packs or whatever else you wish to spend them on.
Not really, it's not gambling, you know what you are buying, you buy the coins and with those you purchase the packs or whatever else you wish to spend them on.
The companies are not blameless in this. There needs to be legislation preventing such disgusting practice's in the first place. You should never be able to spend such ridiculous amounts on a game in the first place.
If it doesn't count as gambling right now then the definition of gambling needs to be updated. These kind of predatory practice's are the same ones that gambling legislation exists to help prevent, after all.
Car manufacturers sell a product - a car.The company didn't do anything.
The father is the one that screwed up by basically giving his son a card of unlimited money.
There are easy ways to avoid that, if you ingore them then don't start blaming others for your mistake.
When you get a drunken speeding ticket you don't go "car manufacturers should be forced to make cars that can't go past my local speed limit, and the bartender should be forced by law to go outside and make sure I didn't come with a car before serving me a drink!!"
Why should they? SOME people might want to spend that much on a game, I'm certainly not one of those people but why should they be to blame for expecting people to keep account of their own spending, we're not a bunch of retards. If your child is, then don't give them your credit card details! FFS this world is getting dumber by the day, we shouldn't blame others for our own actions simple as that.
This, right here. Why can't EA just take the cards off the account and refund the money? It's obviously an overblown mistake of epic proportions, it's not like this kid bought two packs, didn't get what he wanted and is trying to game the system or such nonsense. I feel like this situation boils down to "dumb kid gives EA $8000 of his parents money, EA takes money and keeps it". They're taking advantage of the situation for their own gains and its not right.
The companies are not blameless in this. There needs to be legislation preventing such disgusting practice's in the first place. You should never be able to spend such ridiculous amounts on a game in the first place.
If it doesn't count as gambling right now then the definition of gambling needs to be updated. These kind of predatory practice's are the same ones that gambling legislation exists to help prevent, after all.
My dad is in his mid 50s and he has no idea about MTs, he doesn't even have a modern phone, so he has no exposure to them at all.
It's not bullshit to assume most people are not as tech savvy as those who are under 30
My dad, uncle etc. are all in their 50s and all know what this is. In-app-charges are no new thing to a lot of people now. They may not play on a console but most of the people have smartphones, even older people.
My dad, uncle etc. are all in their 50s and all know what this is. In-app-charges are no new thing to a lot of people now. They may not play on a console but most of the people have smartphones, even older people.
2. Wipe his account clean and refund the money. He loses some of his "earned" stuff, but that's life. Even then, some people may try to force EA/MS into a refund.
They're the exception, not the rule
See the post right below yours
lol, don't think anyone but the father believes that kid.
What cards? The way the game works it's pretty much impossible to know which players he "bought" and which he "earned".
Example:
- I open a pack and find Messi in it. That's "bought".
- I open 100 packs and sell everything in them. With those coins, I buy Messi. That' also "bought"
- I play 100 games and with the earnings from them I buy Messi. That's "earned".
EA would have 2 solutions:
1. Let it slide, refund the money. This would be a horrible example since they and MS would then probably be swamped with requests.
2. Wipe his account clean and refund the money. He loses some of his "earned" stuff, but that's life. Even then, some people may try to force EA/MS into a refund.
Legislation? Sorry, but are you being forced to buy these FIFA packs or other Microtransactions? No. There are multiple screens to go through before it purchases said item. Microsoft and EA are not at fault. There are security measures they could have taken outside of Parental Controls on the Xbox One.
I said responsibility not blame! Spending so much money on a game cant be healthy, you cant expext young childern to understand that