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Opinion Game Dev Cross-progression and crossplay are in the works for Rainbow Six Siege

IbizaPocholo

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Back when Ubisoft switched from Uplay to its shiny new Ubisoft Connect client last year, the publisher promised that future games would feature cross-saving and cross-platform play as much as possible. At the time, that promise didn't include Rainbow Six Siege, which was disappointing for players who hoped to combine their operator and skin collections across every platform. Rejoice: It sounds like we're going to get our wish, eventually.

During a recent preview event for the upcoming Crimson Heist season, Siege game director Jean-Baptiste Halle told PC Gamer that these features are in progress. "We're actively working on cross-progression and crossplay," he said. "Within the realm of consoles, I think it would be great if PlayStation and Xbox could play together."

Halle said that crossplay would make for shorter matchmaking times, especially in regions where one console's population far outshines the other. He used the example of Asian regions, where PlayStation players far outnumber Xbox. As for the PC, Halle is "skeptical" of joining the platform with its console cousins.

"I can see the pros, but I can also see the cons," he said. "So, for this one, it's too early for us to communicate."

One of the cons, Halle agreed, is the inherent advantage that keyboard and mouse users would have over controller players in a precise shooter like Siege.
 
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Concern

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But why would you want a sequel instead of the game being developed and evolving?


What's evolving? New operators? New maps? No new mechanics or features. Just playing it safe at this point. I played more than enough, owning it on both consoles. Most matches play out the same way too.
 

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What's evolving? New operators? New maps? No new mechanics or features. Just playing it safe at this point. I played more than enough, owning it on both consoles. Most matches play out the same way too.

Well, every new cod has different maps including nuketown and some extras. The same game modes. They feel the same.

Csgo is basically 1.6 with the same maps and a handful extra weapons.

All shooter series are basically like this. A new siege would add new maps maybe new operators and weapons. But it would still be the same under the new UI coating.
 
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Cross-play will only increase the number of mouse and keyboard assholes in everyone's games. M+K players on CONSOLES are currently the worse humans and always considered cheaters by the community.

I'm all for the unlocks being cross-platform as I started on my dustbuster PS4 Pro and then migrated to my Series X.

They really do need to make a new Rainbow 6 game, they need to burn this old shit to the ground, so many fucking issues they still don't know how to fix. The only bad thing is that now Ubi would make a new Rainbow Six free to play and put way too many bullshit P2W mechanics in there, and the community would be even MORE toxic(somehow). Also the game looks OK but it could look AMAZING if it was ground up for next gen.

Also just abort that R6 Quarantine, they missed the minuscule window when people were still doing small number co-op FPS again, R6 Quarantine isn't going to be L4D, I don't think that kind of game would ever make a massive resurgence anymore.

Rainbow 6 Siege doesn't need 60 operators, but Ubi thinks it does... this was their first wrong step.

Ubi is too fucking scared to "take a chance" even though they know they'd have a player base for a new R6 game.

tl;dr: We really do need a new R6 game, but one that isn't F2P.
 
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You already can use keyboard and moue on console with stuff like titan and cronus so they really shouldn't let that stop pc cross play
 
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Thats fine, but give me Quarentine. (Or whatever its called now).

I love the gameplay, but I don't always want to play pvp./
 

jaysius

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You already can use keyboard and moue on console with stuff like titan and cronus so they really shouldn't let that stop pc cross play
You do understand that the mouse and keyboard is what's destroying the Console community with it's cheat like unfair advantage over controller players right?

M+K is literally the fucking scourge of all Console players in and game.
 
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jaysius

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Wow, you really hate pc gamers huh.

What's the story behind that? I'm interested in knowing why I'm an ass hole.
PC Gamers are fine, it's Mouse and Keyboard players on CONSOLES using Xim, titans and the other bullshit to get an unfair advantage in the game that is the issue.

The R6 community is in full agreement that it's considered cheating, even the asshole trolls agree that this is considered cheating.

COD allows you to use M+K on console but the game declares you M+K if you do it properly and then users are able to say "I don't want to get raped by a M+K player" on console.

These Xim and other chronus cheating devices that also have autofire and other trash for morons are detected as CONTROLERS by the consoles so even if you had that bullshit in COD you'd be in the "controller" pool and you'd be just stomping everyone.
 
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You do understand that the mouse and keyboard is what's destroying the Console community with it's cheat like unfair advantage over controller players right?

M+K is literally the fucking scourge of all Console players in and game.


Yes but also the same devices have enabled me to keep enjoying console gaming via accessibility. Like they can remap buttons and automate certain tasks.

Don't misunderstand me, i get pissed too when i see people on siege using them for such things. assholes gotta ruin everything i don't blame folks for being mad
 

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Well, every new cod has different maps including nuketown and some extras. The same game modes. They feel the same.

Csgo is basically 1.6 with the same maps and a handful extra weapons.

All shooter series are basically like this. A new siege would add new maps maybe new operators and weapons. But it would still be the same under the new UI coating.


New mechanics maybe could be added. More ways to play since pretty every match usually plays out like a very slow paced tdm.

Im sure they could come up with something.
 

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Might come back and play on PC if cross progression comes. Like others have said, since it hit peak popularity, so many MnK cheaters on consoles.
 
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Should have had cross progression years ago. Either way I can see my time with Siege dying off even more this year. If Battlefield 6 comes out and is good then I can see myself barely playing Siege anymore.

Also the amount of XIM players on console is insane. My friend group doesn't even play ranked anymore as it's like 80% M+K at Platinum and higher.
 
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Yes but also the same devices have enabled me to keep enjoying console gaming via accessibility. Like they can remap buttons and automate certain tasks.

Don't misunderstand me, i get pissed too when i see people on siege using them for such things. assholes gotta ruin everything i don't blame folks for being mad

"automate certain tasks" AKA making fucking macros for cheating... ok so what part am I "misunderstandamating" here?

Are you only "automating certain tasks" in SINGLE PLAYER ONLY GAMES?

The Rock Reaction GIF by WWE
 
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"automate certain tasks" AKA making fucking macros for cheating... ok so what part am I "misunderstandamating" here?

Are you only "automating certain tasks" in SINGLE PLAYER ONLY GAMES?

The Rock Reaction GIF by WWE

Like in yakuza games, you can lock on to enemies by holding R1, with cronus max, you can script it so it holds the lock on for you. Also helpful for holding the throttle in ace combat.

In gta i can press triangle to switch button mapping every time i get in a car as holding shoulder buttons is hard for me.

In R6, you tilt guns around corners with l3/r3, i can map that to X/Square just while holding the ADS button, and they behave normally when not ADSing.

Do you consider any of those examples "cheating"?

Your concern is justified, 99% of players use them for anti recoil/auto combo macros and it sucks cause yeah in R6 I get killed all the time by people using these devices for such things and i hate it too.

But as someone living with an awful degenerative muscle disease, these devices have allowed me to keep gaming, i simply try to educate people that these things do have a positive impact as well.
 

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PC Gamers are fine, it's Mouse and Keyboard players on CONSOLES using Xim, titans and the other bullshit to get an unfair advantage in the game that is the issue.

The R6 community is in full agreement that it's considered cheating, even the asshole trolls agree that this is considered cheating.

COD allows you to use M+K on console but the game declares you M+K if you do it properly and then users are able to say "I don't want to get raped by a M+K player" on console.

These Xim and other chronus cheating devices that also have autofire and other trash for morons are detected as CONTROLERS by the consoles so even if you had that bullshit in COD you'd be in the "controller" pool and you'd be just stomping everyone.
Gotcha, makes sense and I understand your point. I was actually one of those idiots using a Xim, and while not being 1:1 native mouse feel compared to on a PC, it did give a very good advantage.

What's weird is that Microsoft and Sony should be able to detect it. Fortnite actually did detect it and disabled it in a short patch.

But hey, they also had cross play for a short amount of time even though Sony said it was too complicated to do cross play between PlayStation and Xbox.
New mechanics maybe could be added. More ways to play since pretty every match usually plays out like a very slow paced tdm.

Im sure they could come up with something.
They could add all that to Siege as well.
 
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Gotcha, makes sense and I understand your point. I was actually one of those idiots using a Xim, and while not being 1:1 native mouse feel compared to on a PC, it did give a very good advantage.

What's weird is that Microsoft and Sony should be able to detect it. Fortnite actually did detect it and disabled it in a short patch.

But hey, they also had cross play for a short amount of time even though Sony said it was too complicated to do cross play between PlayStation and Xbox.

They could add all that to Siege as well.
Wow, scummy cheater, I guess at least you changed to PC?

Add new mechanics to Siege? Any time they add even an operator the entire thing falls apart and gains a fuck ton of glitches.

The reason the thing is so glitchy is that they're trying to shoehorn shit into it that doesn't fit.
 

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All shooter series are basically like this. A new siege would add new maps maybe new operators and weapons. But it would still be the same under the new UI coating.

No it would add one new thing: a split user base and worse match making times.

Fuck that shit. Keep evolving this game, no need to burn the house down.
 
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If they set it up like they do with other crossplay/platforms it could potentially hinder people who use smurf accounts which is a good thing as the community is toxic as shit
 

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Hell yes. Every game should be cross play and progression. So sick of buying 3+ copies of every game just to have a good time with my friends.