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[ManaByte]

The ball's in Sony's court for PS4 games running at 120fps on PS5

We're starting to get a sense of why PlayStation 5 users are unlikely to see PlayStation 4 games run at 120 frames per …

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Warzone, which comes up as a PS4 app when it's downloaded on PS5, does not boot in 120Hz, and there are no in-game menu functions to enable it. Activision declined to comment when contacted by Eurogamer, leaving us to assume the reason for this difference had to do with the way Sony handles backwards compatibility. At the time, I speculated that Infinity Ward would have to create a full PS5 port of Warzone in order to enable 120fps on the console.

Now, we have evidence to suggest that line of thinking is correct. Rocket League is in a similar boat to Warzone: the hugely popular football driving game has been updated to run at 120fps on Xbox Series X, but not on PS5. Why?

Developer Psyonix told Eurogamer there were a few reasons for the decision, and pointed out enabling 120fps on PS5 "requires a full native port", whereas it's just a "minor patch" on Xbox Series X and S.

"Our team's main focus this year was our recent free to play transition and updating major features like our Tournaments system," Psyonix said.

"Due to this we had to make tough decisions on what else we could achieve. Enabling 120hz on Xbox Series X|S is a minor patch, but enabling it on PS5 requires a full native port due to how backwards compatibility is implemented on the console, and unfortunately wasn't possible due to our focus elsewhere."

So this explains why Activision patched Warzone on XSX but not PS5.

But DF says it COULD happen in the future with a patch; if Sony puts in the work to allow it:

"Theoretically it should be possible for Sony to adjust this (PSVR games can run at 1080p resolution at up to 120Hz) but it will require a fair degree of work - and I guess the question is whether engineering resources focused on PS5 could be redirected to PS4 instead. It really does seem like the ball is in Sony's court on this one."

 

[Birdo]

I get the feeling that BC was added to the PS5 at the last minute, due to backlash from early rumours.

 

[Soapy Wooder]

Ps5 has no limits. But some 3rd party games do

 

[michaelius]

I get the feeling that BC was added to the PS5 at the last minute, due to backlash from early rumours.

Nah - it's same thing they did with PS4 Pro - just match the console architecture to basic ps4 so the games can be made running with as low effort as possible.

 

[Bojanglez]

Fortnite has released a native PS5 version. Warframe is doing the same. So if Activision are serious about supporting their F2P game, I think it is reasonable to expect them to do the same.

 

[Stuart360]

Couldnt they just add a patch to the game itself, that unlocks the framerate?

 

[ManaByte]

Couldnt they just add a patch to thre game itself, that unlocks the framerate?

Based on the Rocket League comments, no they couldn't.

 

[Shmunter]

I see this as a positive. It funnels devs into taking proper advantage of PS5. Fast loading, Dualsense, further gfx enhancements.

Otherwise you can forget any next gen versions for longer than needed.

Necessity is the mother of all invention.

 

[FranXico]

I see this as a positive. It funnels devs into taking proper advantage of PS5. Fast loading, Dualsense, further gfx enhancements.

Otherwise you can forget any next gen versions for longer than needed.

Necessity is the mother of all invention.

It's due to how BC works.

 

[geordiemp]

Ps5 has no limits. But some 3rd party ps4 games do

Corrected that for you, and reported for trolling. Oh wait....

 

[jigglet]

Just so I'm clear, which console should I laugh at for this? I need help.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

Ps5 has no limits. But some 3rd party games do

 

[geordiemp]

Ps5 has no limits. But some 3rd party games do

Your quite correct

 

[Fbh]

That's a shame.
For Rocket League in particular considering how their success story started on ps4. Hopefully Epic/Psyonix do end up making a native port at some point.

 

[Night.Ninja]

Ps5 has no limits. But some 3rd party games do

Yet another Console Warrior. As always, if you have evidence - bring it forth, otherwise see you in 2 weeks.

 

[Raonak]

i'd assume all live service games will get native versions eventually.

would be crazy to not make next-gen versions.

 

[Soapy Wooder]

What happens now per the rule book is we sword fight and whoever touches the others belly button wins. We will let you know who wins.

Spoiler

I have a reach advantage

 

[geordiemp]

What happens now per the rule book is we sword fight and whoever touches the others belly button wins. We will let you know who wins.

Spoiler

I have a reach advantage

We have sircaw the mega fish

 

[a multicultural team of v]

I'm sorry but if a fucking Yakuza game can get a native next gen port it is embarrassing that Warzone and Rocket League do not. Especially since these are service games that are meant to be played years from now.

 

[LordCBH]

Activision is going to be lazy so don’t ever expect a native port of war zone unless bc is removed.

 

[sircaw]

Ps5 has no limits. But some 3rd party games do

Take that back you dirty Xbox shill mod user, I have no idea what i am replying to or what the meat and the potatoes are to this argument.

but i have been summoned. It's geordiemp fault, if you need to ban someone start with him.

As for you, soap in the showers, prison-style i might add , you will not abuse your authority against what is "The Glorious week of Sony and the ps5"

Mod of War , this inferior mod hates bugsnax, its time for you to deal with him, do what you do best.

 

[mckmas8808]

I get the feeling that BC was added to the PS5 at the last minute, due to backlash from early rumours.

Nope. They just care less about BC when compared to MS. Sony is treating BC similarity to how it's always been viewed. It's MS that's taking BC to the next level and that's fine. Just don't expect Sony to care about BC as much as MS.

 

[geordiemp]

Take that back you dirty Xbox shill mod user, I have no idea what i am replying to or what the meat and the potatoes are to this argument.

but i have been summoned. It's geordiemp fault, if you need to ban someone start with him.

As for you soap in the showers, prison-style i might add , you will not abuse your authority against what is "The Glorious week of Sony and the ps5"

Mod of War , this inferior mod hates bugsnax, its time for you to deal with him, do what you do best.

Oh god what have I done, I summoned the devil

 

[VincentMatts]

Your quite correct

I like how people post this stuff as if the ps5 isnt gonna get completely wrecked on a regular basis once devs get used to the tools.

 

[sircaw]

Oh god what have I done, I summoned the devil

Lucifer was the most beautiful of the #angels, i get that reference,

 

[timmyp53]

I like how people post this stuff as if the ps5 isnt gonna get completely wrecked on a regular basis once devs get used to the tools.

I see what you're doing.

 

[LeftThumbstick]

I like how people post this stuff as if the ps5 isnt gonna get completely wrecked on a regular basis once devs get used to the tools.

It's not even that, these things happen for a second or two at best so they screenshot them as if they are some ultimate proof that their favourite console is better

 

[N1tr0sOx1d3]

Ps5 has no limits. But some 3rd party games do

You’re not wrong.
Currently PSVR is receiving very limited attention to devs when it comes to PS5 upgraded support/features.

 

[Vaztu]

Take that back you dirty Xbox shill mod user, I have no idea what i am replying to or what the meat and the potatoes are to this argument.

but i have been summoned. It's geordiemp fault, if you need to ban someone start with him.

As for you soap in the showers, prison-style i might add , you will not abuse your authority against what is "The Glorious week of Sony and the ps5"

Mod of War , this inferior mod hates bugsnax, its time for you to deal with him, do what you do best.

 

[AllyITA]

Just so I'm clear, which console should I laugh at for this? I need help.

usually it is the one that you don't have/intend to buy

 

[Killer Sakoman]

Ps5 has no limits. But some 3rd party games do

I will let you dream

 

[SCB3]

Fortnite has released a native PS5 version. Warframe is doing the same. So if Activision are serious about supporting their F2P game, I think it is reasonable to expect them to do the same.

As is Destiny

 

[hemo memo]

“Backward compatibility was handled masterfully by AMD. They treated it as a key need throughout the design process”

 

[onQ123]

In short give us time for the PS5 versions

 

[John Wick]

MS have implemented a more of software emulation for BC and there for is more robust and better. Also easier to patch as well. PS5 just mimics PS4 and Pro in its modes.

 

[AgentP]

I get the feeling that BC was added to the PS5 at the last minute, due to backlash from early rumours.

They literally designed the system (APU) around HW BC, how could they do that last minute? And of course you need a PS5 version, there is no 120Hz PS4 mode, so it cannot emulate it.

 

[Shmunter]

They literally designed the system (APU) around HW BC, how could they do that last minute? And of course you need a PS5 version, there is no 120Hz PS4 mode, so it cannot emulate it.

They could do a 120 mode, console already does this for PSVR. Personally I hope they don’t bend over and Retrofit it into flat BC, instead encouraging devs to move their nextngen priorities closer.