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[cormack12]

At the time of this writing, Ubisoft is worth PLN 35,6 billion (€7,82 billion), while CDP's market value is estimated at PLN 36,5 billion (€8,01 billion). Although it's a huge achievement, it's important to remember that CDP posted PLN 521 million in revenues and PLN 175 million in net profit in 2019, while Ubisoft generated €416.2 million (PLN 1,89 billion) in revenue in the third quarter of the fiscal year 2019 alone.

CD Projekt Has Surpassed Ubisoft to Become Europe's Most Valuable Video Game Company - Gameplay Mechanix

The CD Projekt Group — which includes <em>The Witcher III: Wild Hunt</em> developer CD Projekt Red and digital distribution platform GOG — skyrocketed

gameplaymechanix.com

 

[BadBurger]

I didn't know they owned GOG. Now I understand why my old video card came with a free copy of Witcher 3 on GOG (that's the platform I used, not Steam).

Good for them. Surprising they eclipsed Ubi, but grats.

 

[Riven326]

I didn't like the Witcher games. Go ahead. Crucify me.

 

[Ozrimandias]

Amazing.
CDPR has one killer app, (now two with cyberpunk), Ubisoft has Tom Clancy Franchise, Just Dance, Assassins Creed among others.....

 

[Raphael]

I wish them all the best but its a huge bubble that will burst 1st q after cyberpunk release. People got too excited.

 

[SirKicksalot]

This hype will only end up hurting them when the stock market watches Cyberpunk not matching COD numbers.

 

[Bryank75]

Overvalued but so is Ubisoft. I was also under the impression that most of Ubisoft was in Canada?

 

[Guilty_AI]

I didn't like the Witcher games. Go ahead. Crucify me.

I don't either. I still appreciate the company for GOG tho.

 

[Riven326]

Amazing.
CDPR has one killer app, (now two with cyberpunk), Ubisoft has Tom Clancy Franchise, Just Dance, Assassins Creed among others.....

Yeah. I've really wanted a new Splinter Cell for a while now.

 

[Senua]

Nice. Ubisoft are the Kings of derivative shite.

 

[Shin]

Overrated.

 

[Miles708]

I didn't like the Witcher games. Go ahead. Crucify me.

Their games have a lot of problems (even TW3) but the surprise is how their output gets incredibly better in every new game. Going from TW2 to TW3 is nothing less than a quantum leap in every aspect.

 

[Riven326]

Their games have a lot of problems (even TW3) but the surprise is how their output gets incredibly better in every new game. Going from TW2 to TW3 is nothing less than a quantum leap in every aspect.

It was just a generic fantasy game. And Geralt was just a sad imitation of Christian Bale's Batman.

 

[GHG]

Even if you don't like their games this should be celebrated because they are an example of a company who does things in the right way.

Their success is deserved and long may it continue.

 

[Riven326]

Even if you don't like their games this should be celebrated because they are an example of a company who does things in the right way.

Their success is deserved and long may it continue.

Cyberpunk looks promising. If I don't like that game, I'm giving the order to invade Poland.

 

[Armorian]

Cyberpunk looks promising. If I don't like that game, I'm giving the order to invade Poland.

 

[Arachnid]

Well deserved! Them and FROM are the best and most consistent devs out there.

It was just a generic fantasy game. And Geralt was just a sad imitation of Christian Bale's Batman.

Christian Bale's Batman had no personality to imitate. Her also had nothing in common with Geralt outside of a gravelly voice (which worked on Geralt, but sounded incredibly stupid from Batman).

BTW it's alright to not like a game. Nothing to crucify. Hopefully Cyberpunk appeals more to you.

 

[Riven326]

Christian Bale's Batman had no personality to imitate. Her also had nothing in common with Geralt outside of a gravelly voice (which worked on Geralt, but sounded incredibly stupid from Batman).

I prefer Old BioWare.

 

[Arachnid]

I prefer Old BioWare.

Old Bioware was fking fantastic, so I get that

 

[Chittagong]

Every game Era touches turns into gold

 

[M1chl]

I wonder how is this even possible? Because they operate just in Europe, or how? Ubisoft is massive with ton of franchises....

 

[Barakov]

Quality beats Quantity every time. Also owning a drm-free store front probably helps.

 

[Allnamestakenlol]

I prefer Old BioWare.

Old Bioware or old, old Bioware? If you are meaning BG days, you betcha; if you mean Jade Empire and everything after, eeeeehhh....

 

[Riven326]

Old Bioware or old, old Bioware? If you are meaning BG days, you betcha; if you mean Jade Empire and everything after, eeeeehhh....

I mean everything after. I wasn't around for BG. I mean, I was, but I was just a kid. Never had the pleasure of playing BG. I've heard many great things. I got started with KOTOR.

 

[GHG]

I wonder how is this even possible? Because they operate just in Europe, or how? Ubisoft is massive with ton of franchises....

Valuations are not always linear with revenue and profits.

I'd guess this will largely be down to the success of the Netflix Witcher TV show and the continued expansion of the franchise into popular culture. They own the IP and because of the recent success outside of videogames the future potential of that single IP outstrips the potential of everything Ubisoft owns.

Also its worth noting that despite Ubisoft being a huge company with strong revenue numbers their profit margins haven't been spectacular in recent times:

Ubisoft plummets after slashing its earnings forecast and delaying the release of 3 games

The video game giant behind "Far Cry" and "Assassin's Creed" is reeling from a player backlash to "Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Breakpoint."

markets.businessinsider.com

CDPR is a very well run business and all of their recent bets have paid off.

 

[levyjl1988]

Good.

Ubisoft is a fucking mess of a company.
1. Their products are confusing. How many fucking editions of a game do we need, we need a fucking chart to comprehend their logic.
2. Their additional game content is all over the fucking place. You have to get the content from the Uplay store and then the PS/MS store, and the many fucking different avenues. Confusing as fuck for the everyday consumer. I just want one damn version and one way to get content.

Their logo looks like the top view of a piece of shit anyways.

 

[I Love Rock 'n' Roll]

Nice. Ubisoft are the Kings of derivative shite.

Yeah. And old Ubisoft, the one from the 90's, was so great (so was EA). I think they changed with the hd twins and wiiiii, for worst.

 

[JTCx]

Well deserved. I remember back in the Witcher 1 days when they were just a tiny studio, you can see the work they put into their games.

Ubisoft can go kick rocks.

 

[Danjin44]

I didn't like the Witcher games. Go ahead. Crucify me.

Me either.

 

[Darkmakaimura]

Awesome I love CDPR.

 

[Verchod]

It was just a generic fantasy game. And Geralt was just a sad imitation of Christian Bale's Batman.

.. But when compared to pretty much anything UBISOFT makes these days, it's fucking original

UBISOFT have managed to make their own titles generic and derivative versions of each other;

Far cry - open world action set in wilderness.
Assassin's creed - open world action games, with historic twist
Watch dogs - open world action game in urban environment
Ghost recon - open world action game with military twist.

 

[Riven326]

.. But when compared to pretty much anything UBISOFT makes these days, it's fucking original

UBISOFT have managed to make their own titles generic and derivative versions of each other;

Far cry - open world action set in wilderness.
Assassin's creed - open world action games, with historic twist
Watch dogs - open world action game in urban environment
Ghost recon - open world action game with military twist.

It's not really original. It's based of the Witcher books. But yeah, next to Ubisoft's games just about anything looks more original. That being said, I enjoyed the hell out of Odysee and thought both Witcher 2 & 3 were snoozers.

 

[PhoenixTank]

It was just a generic fantasy game. And Geralt was just a sad imitation of Christian Bale's Batman.

I enjoyed this post.

 

[Soleil rouge]

Well deserved. Mostly based on the strength of The Witcher franchise. Goes to show how awesome it is.

 

[Orthodox Gaming Dad]

Goes to show you dont need to flood the market with copy paste titles every year. More often than not, less is more!

 

[Miles708]

It was just a generic fantasy game. And Geralt was just a sad imitation of Christian Bale's Batman.

I don't even disagree with you here.

What I'm saying is that the production values have gone up MASSIVELY for every new chapter they made, they managed to go full-AAA in just 3 games, and that's pretty unprecedented for a new independent studio, I think.
Maybe only Quantic Dream pulled off a similar feat.

 

[Bonsaibäumchen]

Valuations are not always linear with revenue and profits.

I'd guess this will largely be down to the success of the Netflix Witcher TV show and the continued expansion of the franchise into popular culture. They own the IP and because of the recent success outside of videogames the future potential of that single IP outstrips the potential of everything Ubisoft owns.

Also its worth noting that despite Ubisoft being a huge company with strong revenue numbers their profit margins haven't been spectacular in recent times:

Ubisoft plummets after slashing its earnings forecast and delaying the release of 3 games

The video game giant behind "Far Cry" and "Assassin's Creed" is reeling from a player backlash to "Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Breakpoint."

markets.businessinsider.com

CDPR is a very well run business and all of their recent bets have paid off.

They don't own the IP.
Its the authors IP - Andrzej Sapkowski

However they obviously did profit from the Witcher Netflix series because it got more people into contact with that franchise.

 

[Dontero]

Well CB2077 will be the second best selling AAA game after GTA5 so no wonder it is valued like that.
Hype for CB2077 is reaching GTA4 level.

Witcher 3 yearly still sells milions of units after all those years.

 

[CuteFaceJay]

I didn't like the Witcher games. Go ahead. Crucify me.

I never got into those games either but I still respect the work put into them.

 

[Mato]

Tencent bags of yuan arriving when?

 

[disap.ed]

Well deserved. Also, not crazier than for example Tesla being worth more than GM and Ford combined to be honest.

 

[Tsukumo]

Someone at Vivendi is likely going Montgomery Burns and whispering "soon".

 

[Faenrir]

It was just a generic fantasy game. And Geralt was just a sad imitation of Christian Bale's Batman.

= i'm a clueless git that never played the game

 

[Riven326]

I don't even disagree with you here.

What I'm saying is that the production values have gone up MASSIVELY for every new chapter they made, they managed to go full-AAA in just 3 games, and that's pretty unprecedented for a new independent studio, I think.
Maybe only Quantic Dream pulled off a similar feat.

Oh, for sure. I think very highly of CDPR. I'm looking forward to Cyberpunk. I only lament not being able to enjoy Witcher as much as everyone else seems to.

 

[Riven326]

= i'm a clueless git that never played the game

I played 2 and 3. I just don't like their style. I'm more of an old school BioWare guy. I think they did fantasy Rpgs better.

 

[mortal]

Quality > Quantity

Also, don't fuck over your customers. It's pretty straight forward, I don't understand why so many game companies struggle to get this.

 

[Fuz]

Quality is winning.


How is that even possible?

 

[GymWolf]

When multiple games every year with thousands of devs and big budgets are not enough to beat a polish company that make 2 games for gen

 

[GeorgPrime]

I didn't like the Witcher games. Go ahead. Crucify me.

Your crazy taste in videogames is your fault... not ours.

Quality is winning.


How is that even possible?

You just have to develop good games and dont rely on "Fast Food Open World Game Design" (its already used to death in Farcry, in Assasins Creed and even in Breath of the Wild)

 

[Faenrir]

I played 2 and 3. I just don't like their style. I'm more of an old school BioWare guy. I think they did fantasy Rpgs better.

Dude, you said generic, there's nothing generic, it's a vibrant and realistic dark fantasy world. If you like heroic fantasy over dark fantasy yeah you might not enjoy it but to call it generic, you must not have played it much. The lore and encounters in the game are incredible and the sidequests are the best i've seen in a rpg in 10 maybe 15 years. It's an action rPG i can understand liking turn based / BG gameplay more but that doesn't mean Tw3 is generic either.