Swift_Star
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Can people please understand that Switch 2 WON'T be more powerful than Steam Deck?!
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Soapbox Killer
Grand Nagus
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As for the OP, Nintendo would have to actively try to make a portable system weaker than a PS4/Steam Deck released 18 months from now. Try harder.
As for the OP, Nintendo would have to actively try to make a portable system weaker than a PS4/Steam Deck released 18 months from now. Try harder.
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
it will have the benefit of DLSS
GigaBowser
The bear of bad news
The devices don't even cater to the same market. Steamdeck is relatively niche and built for enthusiasts. Switch is a mass market device.
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
Exactly and Nintendo would never release a handheld that big. I have to say tho I much prefer the ergonomics of steam deck to the switch now that I’ve had it a while.
hououinkyouma00
Member
The GameCube didn’t fail because it was “chasing power”. It failed because it was a lunchbox with an abnormal media format going up against the PlayStation 2 in a time where “childish” things weren’t cool.
It being a normal powerful console didn’t really have anything to do with it. Just because they changed directions afterwards and hit gold doesn’t mean the GameCube failed because it chased power.
Just sayin
01011001
Banned
no it doesn't. if you think that you are more delusional than anyone else
Thabass
Member
Who cares of it is? I just want it to be more powerful than the Switch currently is; if it's just AS powerful as the Steam Deck is now, I'll be fucking happy as a clam.
Honestly, I think the GameCube being powerful for its time was just a happy accident and was just a product for the time. Wasn't the GameCube the middle ground than the Xbox and the PS2?
Honestly, I think the GameCube being powerful for its time was just a happy accident and was just a product for the time. Wasn't the GameCube the middle ground than the Xbox and the PS2?
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ResurrectedContrarian
Suffers with mild autism
What I don't understand is why anyone really cares.
Raw power is just not something you buy Nintendo for. You get so many other great things from them, but it's a good thing that they have differentiated themselves on the market, and aren't simply trying to build the next powerhouse box like everyone else.
Enjoy them for what they are, and for how they are actually different.
Raw power is just not something you buy Nintendo for. You get so many other great things from them, but it's a good thing that they have differentiated themselves on the market, and aren't simply trying to build the next powerhouse box like everyone else.
Enjoy them for what they are, and for how they are actually different.
Captain Toad
Banned
We don't even know what year Switch 2 could release. You know no more than anyone else OP.
Romulus
Member
Yes, it was exactly as expected being a newer machine than ps2, maybe even slightly less than expected looking at the RAM pool. Ps2 was already starved and gamecube came out later with barely an upgrade, and media format was even more bizarre.
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LazyParrot
Member
If you're gonna rant about what's happening in a specific thread, wouldn't it make more sense to post that rant in that thread instead of starting a new one?
Yes, the gamecub was supposedly 11.99 gflops, ps2 was like 6.2 gflops, and I think the xbox was 20 gflops.
The Switch had perhaps the most powerful ARM GPU outside Apple's stuff when it released in 2017
I think a 2024 Switch 2 will most likely eclipse the Deck in raw specs.
Historically, Nintendo hasnt always pushed for power, but they know they need a certain baseline to ensure next gen ports keep coming.
I think a 2024 Switch 2 will most likely eclipse the Deck in raw specs.
Historically, Nintendo hasnt always pushed for power, but they know they need a certain baseline to ensure next gen ports keep coming.
Romulus
Member
2017 most flagship mobile GPUs (Apple A11, Snapdragon 835) had surpassed the Tegra X1 in benchmarks. The CPU in the Switch was underpowered day 1.
kraspkibble
Permabanned.
switch 2 will definitely be more powerful than the deck. in fact it will probably match the PS5! i can't wait for super fast load speeds on switch 2! oh and the raytracing will be good too 
/s u mad op?
/s u mad op?
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I was thinking about those next gen ports when making a switch 2 but like considering how few AAA games we get a year versus all these interesting looking indies and Nintendo mostly relying on themselves do they really need to make the next switch that powerful.
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
Atlan would likely be heavily thermally limited.
Being Ada based doesnt seem lke a good move looking at the increased TDPs across Ada.
Orin is Ampere based and weve seen Ampere enjoy being undervolted.
I could see a switch 2 being Orin based, it would have the advantage of DLSS and a pretty mature architecture going for it.
That would place it at or about the PS4Pro....which in a handheld device would be some tough shit.
Kuranghi
Member
It would be great to somehow get into Nintendo headquarters and you just go on a 30 minute long Apu style rant about how they just need a competent software TAA solution and to optimise DoF and alpha effects better and their games will look 10x better with no increase in HW cost:
I would absolutely pay £450 for a Switch which is just how Switch games look now but at 4K and without the v-sync stutters from mild fps drops. When you see Odyssey, BotW, Luigi's Mansion 3 or SM3DW:BF and so on running on PC at 4K it just looks so flippin' great. Even just Wii games on Dolphin rendered at Stupid-K look amazeballs.
I would absolutely pay £450 for a Switch which is just how Switch games look now but at 4K and without the v-sync stutters from mild fps drops. When you see Odyssey, BotW, Luigi's Mansion 3 or SM3DW:BF and so on running on PC at 4K it just looks so flippin' great. Even just Wii games on Dolphin rendered at Stupid-K look amazeballs.
SoulChamber
Member
Bud, Nintendo can easily make Switch 2 more powerful without breaking the bank. Not Xbox Series X or PS5 level power, but around Xbox One/PS4 level, at least.
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Trogdor1123
Gold Member
Does the hardware even exist to do that? I’d think the biggest change will be battery life and the cartridges
Thaedolus
Gold Member
Steam Deck variants are all storage/screen material, not TFLOP performance.
I see. I didn't look that hard at the variants details.
I think you're missing a key point. The Gamecube was Nintendo's attempt at chasing power. They just literally can not do it and stay Nintendo - which they learned from the Gamecube (and then unlearned with the Wii U). It's outside of their DNA, they're at the root a toy company.
Zannegan
Member
A couple of points OP:
1. Even taking hyperbole into consideration, you're mischaracterizing what was actually said in the other thread pretty hard.
2. There is a vast gulf between the Steam Deck and the PS5, and while the Switch successor doesn't have a chance in hell of matching the latter, depending on its release date, the former is doable (though by no means guaranteed).
1. Even taking hyperbole into consideration, you're mischaracterizing what was actually said in the other thread pretty hard.
2. There is a vast gulf between the Steam Deck and the PS5, and while the Switch successor doesn't have a chance in hell of matching the latter, depending on its release date, the former is doable (though by no means guaranteed).
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Soapbox Killer
Grand Nagus
To be more accurate, Nintendo stopped chasing power after Gamecube. NES, SNES, N64, GC, and GBA (to an extent DS) were all at the tops when released in terms of raw power.
kiphalfton
Member
Why does this need its own thread if there's another related thread? Were people ignoring you in the other thread.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
The Wii U was Nintendo "chasing power"? Lol. No, it was just the bare minimum upgrade, they couldn't really stay at GameCube level for a third generation. It was still a generation behind the competition (well, not at release, but soon after). And then the Switch was pretty much the same power level again, which is why they're now two generations behind. They need to catch up at least one with the Switch 2.
Ezquimacore
Banned
It will be more efficient because amd is trash
LordOcidax
Member
Somebody lose their pills 
Pretty sure everyone was saying this, switch will probably be orin based and with 8 the Cuda cores so even if they need further throttling 1 tflop portable and 2.2 docked is easily possible,
Also worth mentioning you were the one going off about how you expected ps3 level performance out of a switch 2, regardless of how little sense that makes
Swift_Star
Banned
What is true hardcore gaming?
01011001
Banned
the Switch already has a better GPU than the 360, often pushing close to 2x the pixels.
people like you are worse than the worst Nintendo fanboys
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01011001
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well, not playing on a Sony TV in Movie mode with frame interpolation on is a good start... not choosing 30fps over 60fps modes is also helpful
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Sosokrates
Report me if I continue to console war
Werent the rumours of the next switch was a cut down version of nvidias car chip, which was considerably more powerful then the steam reck
Ribi
Member
*Woosh* That's my point.
Astral Dog
Member
Dude CALM DOWN!
ok so , people just need a reminder before obsessing over leaks Nintendo still wants a mass market price, fit your hands without burning them AND battery that last more than 1 hour max playing games.
regardless, Switch 2 still should be a nice piece of hardware with some gorgeous looking games
ok so , people just need a reminder before obsessing over leaks Nintendo still wants a mass market price, fit your hands without burning them AND battery that last more than 1 hour max playing games.
regardless, Switch 2 still should be a nice piece of hardware with some gorgeous looking games
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darkangel-212559
Banned
I ran off with your mum to show her my import Dreamcast collection. She's into it AND ME.
But seriously... I've always been here. Or are you talking about the other thread? Did you miss me xxxx
Also yeah, I can see it running the next nvdia chipset. I'll go upto PS4 power. Happy now everyone?
To the other poster: There were people saying they think Switch 2 will be on the same level as PS5. Why would I make that shit up?
Also to the other poster I am fully informed of Nintendos history. I've been buying their hardware since the NES days. Powerglove included. It's not hard to understand this.
Kuranghi
Member
NVM the thread theme why are you writing like that, theres a balance between a huge wall of text and this, please find it for the sake of my/our sanity:
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darkangel-212559
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I don't give a shit about your drive by shit posting. Go bitch else where.