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Bloodlines 2 lead writer Brian Mitsoda fired.

Virex

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No thats Cara Ellison. This is Annie.

You don't say. I edited my post. Didn't finish it.
 

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Lol at Outstar on Discord trying to downplay losing their main writer. "Standard procedure" my ass.


How the fuck can having your lead writer be fired be standard procedure? I mean surely if the game sells well and is well received (and lets just assume it does) then wouldn't you be looking to make further games? Games that might require a qualified lead Writer familar with your previous titles perhaps? Or maybe this is indicative of Paradox's opinion on the likelihood of that happening and they're reducing their overheads? 🤔
 

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Lol at Outstar on Discord trying to downplay losing their main writer. "Standard procedure" my ass.



The amount of doublespeak would make Orwell spin on his grave multiple times. "Alexandre is not there to change the course of the game; but realize their shared vision". But somehow Brian... being the very guy to lead the vision couldn't????

I've just requested a pre-order cancel in Steam. This is just an unbelievablem ess.
 
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Sounds about right.

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The amount of doublespeak would make Orwell spin on his grave multiple times. "Alexandre is not there to change the course of the game; but realize their shared vision". But somehow Brian... being the very guy to lead the vision couldn't????

I've just requested a pre-order cancel in Steam. This is just an unbelievablem ess.
Yeah, I'll cancel my pre-order too, and just buy BG3 early access in september.
 

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since Outstar became a brand manager, she stopped making any critisisms about anything WOD.
I preordered this because of Brian being behind it, im not so sure now if i should get a refund and wait for the game to come out and see if its worth it.
 

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This really, really bums me out. Mitsoda was the soul of Bloodlines and I loved where 2 was going.



I honestly fail to see the problem there.
A gay muslim kindred neonate who fights the patriarchy and makes hundred years old elders shake from fear? "Bear Gangrel"? This shit even reads like a parody, but it's not.


I'm not sure. I'd imagine Avellone and Mitsoda's work with characters/story/dialog has been done for a while. It could still be good.

They said that Avellones work is NOT in the game, and considering the damage control on Brians writing already began - "Wouldn't be able to tell what was written by Brian, and what by Cara" , we can safely assume it's all going down the drain.
 
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Everything about this is

utterly
fucking
bizzare

Either Mitsoda is lying and knows why he got sacked, or Paradox are despicable assholes.
I mean, even if the writing and narrative was all done and Mitsoda had nothing else to do, you don't just fire people like that.

Sadly, in America, you do fire people like that. HR in most states will push for an abrupt termination, with no reason ever given, to avoid any legal blow back.
 
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A gay muslim kindred neonate who fights the patriarchy and makes hundred years old elders shake from fear? "Bear Gangrel"? This shit even reads like a parody, but it's not.




They said that Avellones work is NOT in the game, and considering the damage control on Brians writing already began - "Wouldn't be able to tell what was written by Brian, and what by Cara" , we can safely assume it's all going down the drain.
Oh, wow. That's surprising since work on this game started so long ago. I'm glad I didn't grab any of the preorder deals for this one. Definitely going to wait and see how the final product is received.
 

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This game looked shit everytime they shown it but this is the final nail in the coffin for me.

Hoping it turns out half decent but this along with terrible showcases and constant delays, this probably won't turn out well.
 
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This whole thing sounds like a giant dumpster fire. I was going to wait for a deep sale but at this point, I won't even bother with it.
 
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He probably knows why he got fired. But he can't or won't.

This "private person" seems to be seeking attention with his long wishy washy I got fired post. That's how I see it anyway.
 

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At this stage of development what would a writer be doing if not DLC? Artists & writers can't work on much during this period.

Doubt this affects the main game in any way. If its a shit story then Mitsoda is still responsible. Likewise if its a good story.
 

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LMAO, some people will completely write off a game over the dumbest shit.
It's not just this, I even didn't follow development so closely, but let's be honest here - first trailer was ok, I was hyped because, well - it's finally Bloodlines. But everything after that looked subpar IMO.
 
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I love WoD and old White Wolf but read the newer Umbra guide for Werewolf and literally have an Umbral spirit for Cultural Appropriation. I wish I was kidding.
This shit is everywhere in the new books, I wish I didn't read the excerpts from Technocracy: Reloaded. How can you turn a game about limitless potential and reality on the brink into this is beyond me. Perhaps Onyx Path really do work for Pentex.

Climate change threatens to destroy life as we know it. Religious fundamentalism breeds terror around the globe. Diseases, once eradicated from the developed world through vaccination, have returned due to anti-vaxxer movements. Totalitarian nationalist governments rise, as the masses succumb to fear of the other.
 
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Funny thing is... they've been pissing off & losing all the Bloodlines/cRPG fans, getting rid of Avellone, now Brian, plus all the sjw garb....

...and I don't think the mainstream/IGN crowd even knows this game exists either. :messenger_tears_of_joy::messenger_tears_of_joy:
 
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Another studio infected by the SJW virus since Day 1 and the whole development is a huge mess like 343, DICE, Bioware and ArenaNet. Another coincidence right?

They were more worried about being the most woke game ever instead of doing a faithful sequel to Bloodlines.