Good luck, this game has a negative narrative at this point. Dice either needs to wow with the next dlc/ fix the game with meaningful updates or reinvigorate the game in big way. Otherwise it will be toast by next year.
You are the one looking like a clown here, trying to defend this game. What gamers want? Let's start with a finished and polished product, especially with this enter price.What FPS do gamers actually like lmao… Halo Infinite kept true to its Halo roots and gamers are saying its done…COD Vanguard went to WW2 again! and nobody cares… BF 2042 innovates but is buggy and everyone hates it… I personally like Halo Infinite and BF 2042…
Not sure what you’re playing on, but maybe grab the ps4 version for the ps5 to see if that fares better. I assume they are seperate due to player count limits?In middle east and Asia the game is basically dead at non peak player times , and the even more shocking part is it's cross play PS5 ,series x and PC together doesn't have full servers in that region , how the fuck can u release a game without a single new map in 5 months no road map and not expect it to die
Gonna assume the next full Battlefield game will just sell well regardless.
how about they first fix the game we already paid for??
They need to give specific details if they want the dedicated fans back. Nobody will take their word after the "any old shit will do" quality of 2042.
Then BF2042 is soon to be abandonware.
Internet forum nerds are too eager to slam the door shut on games that aren’t perfect 10/10s
Meh, you can fix the bugs but the core design of the game is hosed.
Fix 2042 or you can keep that shit EA.
Your series future depends on how you handle it.
IMO only F2P can build a player base for 2042. No one will buy it anymore
CorrectFunny enough I actually disagree.
You have to consider the barrier of cost is not really the issue with Battlefield 2042 right now. I want you to look at Halo infinite a game that is completely tanked in terms of player base and it's completely free for mp. Making 2042 free-to-play is to suggest the cost was the main problem or something weird like that I believe Gamers understand that their time is still valuable and if 2042 is pretty much synonymous with having a bad time or glitches or problems going free-to-play is not going to be a magical light switch as much as people think it is.
I think the only thing that can save this game (if it can even be saved at this point) is a deep show of good faith and the game being completely revised and in my opinion it needs to be rebranded because even releasing it for free with 2042 will simply just have people believing it's the same game they see on memes or something which means they would have to add some subtitle like you saw with Final Fantasy 14 or even no man's sky
Consider even I'm skeptical that 2042 player base could be brought back by free-to-play even with a name change.
I believe the concept, the idea, the brand 2042 and everything is completely tainted.
he clearly has cross play turned offJust an anecdote, but my best friend stopped playing on Steam because wait times for almost all modes are now around five minutes in the least, and if you get in it's filled with bots. He said many games start with only three or four players and then end quickly.
I agree about the polished product part and where did I defend the game? Yes it has issues but gamers are obviously being some what unsure of what they want in an fps and hypocritical… WHAT DO GAMERS WANT in a fps? Halo didn’t satisfy gamers, COD didn’t and BF2042 didn’t…? BF2024 had tons of issues but so did the previous entries…You are the one looking like a clown here, trying to defend this game. What gamers want? Let's start with a finished and polished product, especially with this enter price.
Then if I buy a BF game YES I want it to feel like a Battlefield, which is NOT preventing the dev from innovating. The new features just needs to serve the gameplay and feeling of the series and this is NOT the case for 2042.
FFS Ready or Not is an early access game made by a very small team and it's in a far better state than BF2042, even today. So you like this game it's fine, enjoy playing it and stop calling people out.
EDMIX actually provides meaningful replies… not “ZOMG Th3 G4m3 iz D0nE” the game had alot of issues but could have been great without the hive mind of gamers hating it without playing it, study history it always repeats…Hive mind hated TLOU II but it has more awards than any game in history…hive mind hated CyberPunk 2077 now everyone loves it…(the console versions were bad except on Xbox Series X and PS5) hive mind hates Halo Infinite but its polished asf and sticks to its roots (gamers wanted this after Halo 4 and 5) hive mind review bombed Horizon Forbidden West for no reason at all… ( The media loved it and even media shills gave unfairly negative reviews) If I listened to hive mind unfairly hate games I would miss out on some of the greatest games in of all time…It’s dead but EDMIX will prove it otherwise
Can't really blame DICE here though. They are just devs, EA is the issue here, because they are the ones forcing a certain direction for monetization purposes.Brutal expectations, amirite?
DICE can suck my dick. What are you talking about, "the next one", you didn't even finish the current one, you fucking hacks!
No content updates, barely any meaningful patches, performance is still terrible, bugged up the wazoo, crazy unbalanced, poor map design, extremely lackluster weapon roster, terrible Specialists, complete removal of classes and by extension teamwork, a scoreboard being a "legacy feature" that is taking 6 months of dev time to implement after launch, no voice chat.
What the fuck are you doing? I paid 70 bucks for this shit.
But hey, don't be sad! That's just how it works out sometimes.
Nah, a lot of the blame lies with DICE.Can't really blame DICE here though. They are just devs, EA is the issue here, because they are the ones forcing a certain direction for monetization purposes.
Real DICE doesn't exist anymore my guy. They went to form their own place and it shows. I am pretty positive the original devs left because EA is insufferable. It's just a shell now just like BioWare.Nah, a lot of the blame lies with DICE.
They had extra time but still somehow fundamentally missed...like...everything in spectacular fashion. The talent has left the building. It's entirely clear based on the spaghetti code vidya they pushed out between their cheeks and plopped on the floor that they are done.
Yes you are defending the game, you are on every thread quoting people that criticize the game to argue, when this BF is (probably) the worst release by DICE.I agree about the polished product part and where did I defend the game? Yes it has issues but gamers are obviously being some what unsure of what they want in an fps and hypocritical… WHAT DO GAMERS WANT in a fps? Halo didn’t satisfy gamers, COD didn’t and BF2042 didn’t…? BF2024 had tons of issues but so did the previous entries…
Smh this is the problem…you want the SAME maps over and over…this is why devs don’t innovate…all of those bullet points are just opinions…the game has destruction …nice maps (opinion) , balanced gameplay (can be patched) New weapons and attachments (again petty point) seems like you need to go play the old games… BFV was hated too what happened? All of the previous entries launched in horrible states…seem like it was a trend to hate this game by PEOPLE WHO NEVER PLAYED IT! This is my issue..Yes you are defending the game, you are on every thread quoting people that criticize the game to argue, when this BF is (probably) the worst release by DICE.
Unsure about what they want? Lol, BIG lol. As I said DICE just had to take what worked before and add to the formula. So I don't know about "gamers", but I can tell you what I want in a Battlefield game:
- A commander per team
- Nice designed maps like BF1/2/3/4
- New weapons with attachments
- A proper classes system
- Come on PUMP THAT DESTRUCTION UP
- Balanced gameplay between vehicle/infantry
Let's start with this. Now if DICE is not capable of doing this, they just need to take the most famous maps from the previous BF titles and put some next gen destruction in it. Add a few new weapons and you're all set for, AT LEAST, a good game.
Are you part of DICE? Because like them you seems to have NO IDEA what you are talking about nor what the fans wants.Smh this is the problem…you want the SAME maps over and over…this is why devs don’t innovate…all of those bullet points are just opinions…the game has destruction …nice maps (opinion) , balanced gameplay (can be patched) New weapons and attachments (again petty point) seems like you need to go play the old games… BFV was hated too what happened? All of the previous entries launched in horrible states…seem like it was a trend to hate this game by PEOPLE WHO NEVER PLAYED IT! This is my issue..
A great temporary solution would simply be to remaster Battlefield 4 for current gen.
Give us the full fat pc version, the ability to carry over progression, and maybe a couple new maps and that could buy them a couple years of good will.
Thank you...DICE is dead ...Battlefield is dead... EA ran it into the ground..this was their last hoorah. The only reason everyone jumped on this one was because it was supposed to be a return to form especially after two World War titles. As of right now very few people would buy another BF.Are you part of DICE? Because like them you seems to have NO IDEA what you are talking about nor what the fans wants.
Innovation for the sick of it is bad, or ok let's integrate football into Battlefield! After all that would be innovative don't you think?
And I already showed you on other threads that yeah, I played the game. Please stop ridiculing yourself.
To conclude, I DON'T WANT THE SAME GAME, but since DICE has failed multiple times to do a proper BF then yes stop slaughtering this IP and just take the most famous maps from the previous BF titles, put some next gen destruction in it and call it a day.
Or maybe you are happy with this IP turning into a hero shooter?
128 players..that sure is innovation. Oooh and did I mention the black non binary wingsuit character. Thats gotta be something new!!!!BF 2042 didn't innovate or improve the saga in any way.
It was a worse BF than previous entries, in every way.
You are one of the very few, that refuses to acknowledge this.
Based on what EA stated, we don't even know how much time was really given and if it was really enough for what they are trying to do. At the end of the day, WHEN the game ships is up to the publisher, they control all of that, not DICE.Nah, a lot of the blame lies with DICE.
They had extra time but still someho
You might want to look up who runs that studio btw =)This is where the REAL DICE is
BF 2042 didn't innovate or improve the saga in any way.
like them you seems to have NO IDEA what you are talking about nor what the fans wants.
As of right now very few people would buy another BF
"We're sorry for BF2042. These will be the next 3 games we develop."
I mean... yeah that's just common sense. He can be a fan of 2042 I have no problem with that, but it is NOT a Battlefield game.I disagree. You are both fans of the IP, you simply have different views on where it should go, but I've said this for years about this IP, we all have different ideas of what a good Battlefield is, that doesn't make anyone not a fan or something. Its why I even stated Portal might be the best option for this series as no one here is going to have any fucking view on this IP that we all 100% agree with. Its just never going to happen.
You have those that like prone, you have BFBC fans that like it removed, you have fans of destruction, you have fans that want a set level to be competitive. Fans of vehicles, fans of just on the ground fighting etc. No one here is going to even have a version of lets say a BF4 remake that we all 100% will agree with. Chances are, we would fight about that shit on here lol
Make your own fucking concept with it and move on lol I'm just not convinced the community has any concept based on um "what the fans wantz". You are a fan, ResetEraVetVIP ResetEraVetVIP is a fan, OneShotThrill OneShotThrill is fan, many of us are fans. Yet we'll all have different views on where the IP should go or shouldn't go etc, but I'd say the majority of us can agree with that 2042 didn't hit the mark in many areas, its exactly what didn't work and to what degree that is debated here tbh, but who is a fan or not shouldn't be. We just disagree is all Kyo. Have a good one.
I'm not a BF gamer at all aside from messing with demos and trials, so I'm no expert, but here's my opinion.I mean... yeah that's just common sense. He can be a fan of 2042 I have no problem with that, but it is NOT a Battlefield game.
Now of course there is always a fraction of the fanbase that will dislike whatever DICE will do, for the exact reasons you mentioned but there is a big difference between "oh it's missing prone" and "WTF WHAT IS THIS OPERATOR BULLSHIT".
I already listed the main features a proper BF needs to have imo, and I do think it's a fair list. And it's not asking too much to take example on BF4, and built on that. It's really nothing complicated:
- Add 128 players if you want but make sure the level design is properly designed for this. Level design always was the very strong point of DICE so WTF happened with the last few BF? Talent drain?
- Add more destruction and more tools in the sandbox, while watching team balance.
- Add more defined roles into the classes if DICE really want that, but do it intelligently with sub-classes and specialized unlocks.
- Bring back the commander
Etc etc... It's really not that hard. They don't need to scratch their head too much, but the fact that they though BF2042 was the way to go is really concerning. I can't believe that was the future they wanted.
DICE still has a good foundation and skeleton. Battlefront 2 is recent enough proof. BF2042 even had a couple of modes with very high potential. The issue with them is that they're one studio being treated like the multiple dev teams who are used to making yearly games like COD. DICE is at their best when they're left alone to be creative and refine a game. They're not EA sports and never will be. Even EA sports is bad at being EA Sports.To be honest, I don't know if any of that matters.
Making a game called Bad Company 3, may not mean much to many if that concept is fucked up or they lost any good will or something like that. It would be to suggest that the community will pretty much buy anything if you just name it something lol
The destruction in the BF titles continued to get more advanced as time went on , yet you still saw people under this weird impression that it needed to be called "Bad Company" to have destruction, even to the point of NOT KNOWING the other BF titles had more advance destruction.
So people will ask for Bad Company 3, but I question this to them......with all the shit talked about DICE, are you 100% sure they will like Bad Company 3 BY DICE of today or something? With the comments made, you'd think this game being made right now would have no hope based on how the thread feels about the team, but with how 2042 did in sales, I legit don't think much of that might matter. You might see people buying that shit even with knowing how bad 2042 was and who made BFBC3 lol
1: Agree, that's why I said "if you want" because those king of stuff is just for PR purpose it seems. But on the other hand I do think it could be done and fun if the maps are well designed, problem is that's the hard part.I'm not a BF gamer at all aside from messing with demos and trials, so I'm no expert, but here's my opinion.
1. 128 players had to be done for sake of "higher numbers the better". In just about every game where size matters (open world game or shooter player count), the trend is devs always inch up so they can promote the "hey gamers, this years game has more and bigger!!!" When was the last time you saw a dev say "hey gamers, this years game is smaller but way more impactful and detailed!!!" I've never seen it
2. From what veteran BF gamers say (including some chart someone did), a lot of the key DICE employees have left the past 10 years
3. More destruction and tools seems good, but doesn't look the team or game engine can handle it
4. The class system was simplified for noobs
5. Commander mode is something probably most gamers dont want to take charge of, too complicated, too much responsibility for a gamer to handle (which combines nicely with #4)
That's just my opinion from a non-BF gamer seeing what's happened with the game watching other people's responses and what I think.
This isn't Bioware we are talking about.
DICE still has a good foundation and skeleton. Battlefront 2 is recent enough proof. BF2042 even had a couple of modes with very high potential. The issue with them is that they're one studio being treated like the multiple dev teams who are used to making yearly games like COD. DICE is at their best when they're left alone to be creative and refine a game. They're not EA sports and never will be. Even EA sports is bad at being EA Sports.
This isn't Bioware we are talking about.