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No T-mobile iPhonekaskade said:
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AT&T to Acquire T-Mobile USA from Deutsche Telekom
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/20/...most-frequently-asked-question/#disqus_thread
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kaskade said:
When its all finished. iPhone 6 is your best bet
AbsoluteZero
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AT&T got tired of T-Mobile's anti iPhone ads, I guess.
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giga said:
Hah I had forgotten that skit, didn't even remember he referenced the T-1000.
rohlfinator
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Seriously, who thought this was a good idea and why are they allowed to make decisions more complicated than choosing which sock to put on first?
BlackGoku03
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This is great! It only made sense for them to buy out T-Mobile. I just never thought AT&T would shell out the cash.
I can sell so many more phones when they figure out all the kinks. Plus the call quality will improve in congested areas like NYC and other high populated areas with people who have an iPhone.
Hopefully AT&T and T-Mobile make it a smooth transition.
AT&T planned on having the HSPA+ tech to tie customers over with 4G speeds until it completes its LTE upgrade. T-Mobile never had plans to go to LTE so while they may have had the largest 4G network (don't know if that was ever true) they would have been slow behind Verizon, Sprint, and AT&T's soon to be fast LTE network. So this is good for customers who plan on grabbing a 4G phone in year but kind of screws over previous 4G customers.
I'm thinking it will be like what Verizon did with Alltel. They will let existing T-Mo customers upgrade to AT&T devices while switching to an AT&T price plan.
SPEAKING of that... this should allow for the return of the unlimited data plans. The infustructure is there now. Hopefully AT&T realizes this. They already realize it really... they are allowing customers who used to have unlimited data go back to it if they ask.
God I hope this goes well. There's a lot of money to be made here (for me). I was going to quit my AT&T job since I work full tiem somewhere else but this is too good to drop.
I say wait and see how this turns out. This could turn out Very good or Very bad...
I can sell so many more phones when they figure out all the kinks. Plus the call quality will improve in congested areas like NYC and other high populated areas with people who have an iPhone.
Hopefully AT&T and T-Mobile make it a smooth transition.
AT&T planned on having the HSPA+ tech to tie customers over with 4G speeds until it completes its LTE upgrade. T-Mobile never had plans to go to LTE so while they may have had the largest 4G network (don't know if that was ever true) they would have been slow behind Verizon, Sprint, and AT&T's soon to be fast LTE network. So this is good for customers who plan on grabbing a 4G phone in year but kind of screws over previous 4G customers.
I'm thinking it will be like what Verizon did with Alltel. They will let existing T-Mo customers upgrade to AT&T devices while switching to an AT&T price plan.
SPEAKING of that... this should allow for the return of the unlimited data plans. The infustructure is there now. Hopefully AT&T realizes this. They already realize it really... they are allowing customers who used to have unlimited data go back to it if they ask.
God I hope this goes well. There's a lot of money to be made here (for me). I was going to quit my AT&T job since I work full tiem somewhere else but this is too good to drop.
I say wait and see how this turns out. This could turn out Very good or Very bad...
Empyrean Heaven
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Big move for AT&T, shrewd, but big. This makes them the #1 carrier in the US, and it ain't close.
And honestly? If Verizon doesn't get the iPhone, this doesn't happen. This was pretty much a necessary move by AT&T to remain relevant.
PS: If anyone makes a gif/comic/picture/video whatever parodying the T-Mobile MyTouch 4G girl commercials with this announcement, I will love you forever.
And honestly? If Verizon doesn't get the iPhone, this doesn't happen. This was pretty much a necessary move by AT&T to remain relevant.
PS: If anyone makes a gif/comic/picture/video whatever parodying the T-Mobile MyTouch 4G girl commercials with this announcement, I will love you forever.
BlackGoku03
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Why do you say that? Those phones would work with AT&Ts and T-Mos vcombined network. They would work better now.tino said:
GodDuckman said:
No really, this has to do with the fact that TMo USA has no LTE spectrum and the parent company is forced to sell it or merge it with a carrier that does.
TMobile can sell phone just fine without the iPhone. No to mention Verizon hasn't sold that many iPhone anyway.
To the AT&T sales droid, I am sure you will sell more phones, who cares about the consumer choice right?
BlackGoku03 said:
I said it in the sense that a single company in the US will decide what quadband GSM phone to sell and it's going to be harder to unlock them. See ATT's android sideloading policy.
As a T-Mobile customer this is certainly not what I'd call good news.
It might turn out decent, but you best believe I'm going to keep an eye out for backup plans for my entire family plan when my contact runs out. There is next to nothing from the AT&T business or network that I want as a consumer. Until years down the line when I'd give a flying fuck about LTE, this deal can go smack itself into a rock for all I care.
I could at least be somewhat optimistic if Sprint bought TMo.
It might turn out decent, but you best believe I'm going to keep an eye out for backup plans for my entire family plan when my contact runs out. There is next to nothing from the AT&T business or network that I want as a consumer. Until years down the line when I'd give a flying fuck about LTE, this deal can go smack itself into a rock for all I care.
I could at least be somewhat optimistic if Sprint bought TMo.
http://www.slashgear.com/t-mobile-u...-318000-contract-users-jumped-in-q4-25136165/tino said:
They were bleeding. We don't know how well the iPhone is selling on Verizon.
Unknown Soldier
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Somewhere, Verizon executives are sitting in a room laughing and laughing.
BoboBrazil
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I think I found one company that will be very happy about this. MetroPCS.
Kccitystar
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GodDuckman said:
From earlier in the thread:
Nope, both are GSM/GPRS.ChanHuk said:
Personally I think this was one HELL of a smart move by AT&T.
1. Their 4G deployment sucks balls.
2. They need the infrastructure.
AT&T got a bad rap recently but their network isn't bad at all. It was simply over-saturated from the influx of iPhone users coming to their network. Thus suffered in the public domain which hurt their rep. I'm on VZ these days but have absolutely no tie to either provider. My company pays for my phone and I jump between providers 2-3 times a year whenever a new phone comes out so all I give a shit about is bleeding edge tech and the supporting infrastructure for me to utilize it.
Smart move for AT&T.
brotkasten
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alphaNoid said:
The GRPS frequency is the same, the 3G frequency isn't.
tino said:
*yet* Who know's if the iPhone is or is not a deciding factor, frankly I don't believe it to be. However, you can't make statements such as "Verizon hasn't sold many iPhones" since numbers have not been published. My guess is China Mobile will get it eventually, but is primarily stuck in 2G, so who knows when - as for DoCoMo, when has Japan ever made sense?
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Copernicus said:
Yes it is. It really is.
Just look at the yawning technical canyon that now stands in between Verizon and AT&T-Mobile. Verizon has rolled out LTE successfully in 22 markets, with plans to overlay 75% of Americans with LTE coverage by 2013. AT&T-Mobile combined still have no strategy in place for LTE rollout nor enough spectrum to do it on a single band. Let's not mince any words here: AT&T paid $39 billion for T-Mobile because they were desperate for more infrastructure and spectrum, because at this point they haven't even finished 3G overlay over their much tinier 3G footprint and now they have to chase after Verizon for LTE overlay, and they just lost the only thing that forced people to stay with AT&T all these years when iPhone went to Verizon.
The good news is that $39 billion is basically chump change in global telecom. Deutsche Telekom was pretty desperate to sell off their money-losing T-Mobile USA operations, as the infrastructure investment necessary to make the T-Mobile network competitive with Verizon, Sprint, and AT&T would have amounted to hundreds of billions and DT didn't want to keep losing money for another decade while also investing possible hundreds of billions of dollars to build out the network. AT&T got a lot of value for $39 billion, but now they have to deal with all their phones needing to support a minimum of 4 bands just for covering the US home markets, which will make testing new devices fun.
In general, T-Mobile only covered major US cities where AT&T already had infrastructure. So they won't increase the overall size of coverage. They'll get more capacity in cities though, and most importantly, they now have T-Mobile's extra spectrum for when they start rolling out LTE. Although God knows when that will be at this point. If you have any interest in LTE you should be switching to Verizon ASAP regardless. They've rolled it out, they have a plan in place, and by 2013 if you live anywhere near a major city you should be covered by Verizon LTE.
TurtleSnatcher
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Either way.. when this gets approved by the FCC.. AT&T is going to have to forfeit tons of items like Verizon did when buying in Alltell.. Those items/customers etc will just go to Sprint/Verizon.
Copernicus said:
Well getting their "3.75G" network up and running without pimping it like mad was their mistake.
BTW the biggest loser in this ordeal are Sprint and TMo customers. There was rumor of Sprint and TMo merging, which would have provided enough money for the whole network to move to LTE. Now Sprint is fucked.
Verizon likely won't be hurt by it so much. It will pick up alot of current TMobile customers. I hang out in TMo forum in howardforums. There are a lot of rapid ATT haters. I am not a T Mobile user but I use TMobile prepaid's data service.
I get it for free due to TMo's incompetent network policy.
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Wrong. I was with AT&T from back when it was called Cingular until 3 years ago. And I can tell you their service sucked just as bad then as it did when I left 3 years back.alphaNoid said:
Shed_a_Ninja
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First, Cingular buys out ATT and then becomes ATT.
Then, Verizon buys Alltel.
Now, ATT buys T-Mobile.
What's next, Verizon buys Sprint?
Then, Verizon buys Alltel.
Now, ATT buys T-Mobile.
What's next, Verizon buys Sprint?
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