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Apple secretly demoed it's VR headset to the top 100 Executives. $3000 reconfirmed, expecting 1 million sold first year. Little to no profit initially
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alucard0712_rus
Gold Member
It's very interesting what they will do in every regard: displays (resolution, FOV, color gamut), controls, AR support, APU, battery-life, software, external GPU support e.t.c.
Knowing Apple they will try to fit the best possible components it'sgonna better be HDR OLED's. Is there better small-sized OLED displays than Sony's on PSVR2? Or maybe they will do LCD with local dimming but that's will be awful for the price.
Knowing Apple they will try to fit the best possible components it's
Snake29
RSI Employee of the Year
Apple products are some of the best software and hardware integrated devices. But since Apple isn't really (outside Apple Arcade) in the gaming business, this is more like a professional tool then for the mass. Android isn't greatly integrated with all kinds of external products like Apple. It's why smart home manufacturers most of the time support homekit better then other smarthome platforms.
This VR headset is not created to compete with other PC and the PSVR2 headset at all. The people who still laughing at Apple fans, you people still living in 2014 or what when it was heavenly Apple vs Android, and where especially the Android fans were screaming the loudest.
Good luck trying to sell your 2 year old Android device, which might not even get any update anymore.
This VR headset is not created to compete with other PC and the PSVR2 headset at all. The people who still laughing at Apple fans, you people still living in 2014 or what when it was heavenly Apple vs Android, and where especially the Android fans were screaming the loudest.
Good luck trying to sell your 2 year old Android device, which might not even get any update anymore.
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midnightAI
Member
Most likely microOLED with pancake lenses
If I was Apple and they go down the tethered external battery route then I'd go further and tether the processor and GPU also, an external battery solution isn't ideal but if you are doing that may as well go further so your headset could be as small as possible with no heat issues etc.
alucard0712_rus
Gold Member
Then it's very interesting how they solved brightness problem.
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Giallo Corsa
Gold Member
That's a feature actually.
Spaceman292
Banned
I have a $2000 charging cable you might be interested in. I drew an Apple logo on it.
Giallo Corsa
Gold Member
You'd be surprised at how many people with minimum income go and buy an iphone (at 36+ monthly rates) just 'cause it gives them that "premium feel®" aka "it makes me feel like I'm important" even though they can't harness/utilize 99% of the available computing power with their iphones being used as an exclusive Facebook/Instagram device with the occasional snapshot taking here and there - basically, what a 200$ android device could also do easily.
'Cause, you know, you may not make it to month's end but you absolutely gotta have an iphone as to show off while in public.
Same thing with this incoming VR headset - people WILL go and buy it just 'cause "Apple" no matter if they'll have to mortgage their house , brand royalty and brand recognition is a real thing man.
Also : watch how all of a sudden VR will get to be "normal" and "cool" and not a device catered towards PC and/or Console "nerds"/outcasts.
Spaceman292
Banned
I'm not sure it'll be exactly like that. You can't take a VR headset out of your house and show it to you friends.
gaming_again
Member
My closest friend works in an industry where firms will buy several Mac studios and throw them away when an upgraded version comes out.
He has grabbed several perfectly working pro Apple displays from the rubbish lol.
If this is pitched for professionals in certain markets and it’s good then it will sell, easily. These firms don’t look at costs.
He has grabbed several perfectly working pro Apple displays from the rubbish lol.
If this is pitched for professionals in certain markets and it’s good then it will sell, easily. These firms don’t look at costs.
Giallo Corsa
Gold Member
But...you can still post about it on FB and IG man !
Plus, you know for a fact that they won't stop talking about it once they get their hands on it, they'll have their socks blown off - like most users when they first tried VR to be honest...
Anyway, they could have priced this at 5000 Eurodollars and it would still sell well - this is Apple we're talking about, the company with the biggest brand recognition on the planet, neither Samsung, nor Sony nor any other brand could take that spot - only...Coca Cola could come in 1st in the brand recognition "game"...
It is what it is, people vote with their wallet and this is the result (for better or for worse).
Cheers
Mephisto40
Member
I just can't figure out who this is aimed at other than people with more money than sense (aka people who buy apple devices)
MasterCornholio
Member
FingerBang
Member
If this fails, VR is doomed. I'm curious how Apple plans to solve the issues preventing it from being mainstream.
RoboFu
One of the green rats
Medical, military, theme parks, and VR businesses.
Not everything is about people shopping at Walmart.
chromatic9
Member
Don't see a problem with it. Obviously it's geared towards high end early adopter types.
Apple having an attempt is a good thing, they could have a good idea or design that can be incorporated years down the line. There seems to be this unrealistic expectation now for some slick $250 unit to win many people over. I get the frustration, I bought an Oculus dev kit at launch but it's probably another 5-10 years away to being a significant viable alternative.
Apple having an attempt is a good thing, they could have a good idea or design that can be incorporated years down the line. There seems to be this unrealistic expectation now for some slick $250 unit to win many people over. I get the frustration, I bought an Oculus dev kit at launch but it's probably another 5-10 years away to being a significant viable alternative.
Mr.ODST
Member
To be fair Apple do make great technology that just works, I just come out of the apple ecosystem with a 3070 PC and from an iPhone 11 to Galaxy S23 Ultra, it feels weird how non-connected things are in comparison to its "Just work" strategy of the iPhone and Apple Services.
Even still it probably will be a great headset but 3k is ridiculous!
Even still it probably will be a great headset but 3k is ridiculous!
nightmare-slain
Member
I'm waiting a few years for them to put out "budget" models and of course let them work out the hardware/software issues. I don't like to jump into a new product with the first generation release. That's why I'm waiting for a Steam Deck 2, PS5 Slim, etc.
poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
I don't think we are anywhere near that with VR though. The tech, even in 'cheap' devices continues to improve every year. FoV, resolution, screen quality, lens quality, comfort, form factor, color pass through, refresh rate, tracking, processing power on standalone, eye tracking, hand tracking etc.
Plus those million dollar audio set-ups aren't costing a million to make, even the Sonos stuff is going to have a big profit margin.
Morrie’s wig shop
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nightmare-slain
Member
People will laugh at that statement but it's true. If Apple, the richest tech company on the planet, can't make it a success then who can? Others have tried and failed including Google and Microsoft. Facebook is doing reasonably well with theirs I suppose. Sony's headset has problems but still quite niche. Valve's is expensive aswell.
I think the issue with headsets is that they are too focused on VR and gaming. Augmented Reality could be huge if Apple makes the headset an extension of the iPhone. Instead of looking at a screen and touching it then it's displayed in front of you. People are hooked on their phones as it is so imagine if you never had to look at a phone again and control it with motion and "touch". Instead of everyone walking about looking down at their phones they'll be walking around with headsets.
At first headsets would be an accessory to the iPhone but eventually I guess they'll build the phone into a headset. The biggest issue is how you interact with the augmentations and existing apps. Headsets have huge potential and could be the next big thing if Apple can get it right. They, and others, have a lot to gain from it. Smartphones collect insane amounts of data as it is but a headset would be a gold mine for the likes of Apple, Facebook, Google, and Microsoft. I can understand why they are wanting to chase this metaverse goal. People think the metaverse is that shit that Facebook is making but the metaverse is reality, augmented reality, and virtual reality.
X-Wing
Member
That and hardware that will last a decade with regular software updates
Mephisto40
Member
All of those businesses generally use windows in my experience
The only one of those customers I havnt dealt with at work is the military, and I can't imagine they use apple products all that much
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RoboFu
One of the green rats
The apple headset is a stand alone device which could operate remotely. It’s using apple silicon so it’s basically a MacBook in vr googles
The os doesn’t matter. You can stream any data to any device.
And windows maybe the most used spreadsheet and email is but all the important things in the medical and military is either Unix, bsd, or Linux.
Topher
Gold Member
ByWatterson
Member
1. Make a headset for no profit.
2........
3. Profit?
Apple really testing the limits of the cult here.
2........
3. Profit?
Apple really testing the limits of the cult here.
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Mephisto40
Member
Possibly, but considering these devices are generally going to be produced in china I can't personally see the military, at least in western counties, making use of them all that much
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Inviusx
Member
I am slightly excited because I want to see how a company like Apple thinks this could realistically work in the real world. So many AR headsets exist and none have ever provided any actual use case for why anyone would want one outside of the novelty of it.
If Apple's going in now I feel like they might have found an angle that others haven't thought of yet to capture the world's imagination and I'm curious what that might be. That being said if it's just "you can bring up your phone gallery right before your eyes" or something stupid like that, then AR will remain in the dark ages.
If Apple's going in now I feel like they might have found an angle that others haven't thought of yet to capture the world's imagination and I'm curious what that might be. That being said if it's just "you can bring up your phone gallery right before your eyes" or something stupid like that, then AR will remain in the dark ages.
Justin9mm
Member
Have you ever met a loyal Apple consumer, they will buy this.
MasterCornholio
Member
How did you permaban yourself?
Justin9mm
Member
Don't forget it probably won't come with a charger that's another $100$3000 lol. Imagine the accessories prices.. Extra battery thats $200. Earphones $250. Gtfo of here
MasterCornholio
Member
I think he had a perm warning for spam or manipulating articles.
Fuz
Banned
Don't underestimate them.Assuming this is true, if 1 million people buy a $3,000 VR headset in a year, Apple fans are even more idiotic than I thought.
hemo memo
Gold Member
Mac Pro always remind me of vegetable choppers.3k for a true apple fanboy is nothing
so many are nuts, will buy anything
kvltus lvlzvs
Banned
Not only that, but they are apple fans, so they will spend 3000 on a headset every year after, too!Assuming this is true, if 1 million people buy a $3,000 VR headset in a year, Apple fans are even more idiotic than I thought.
DemonGamerTTT
Member
Over priced gimmick bullshit as always...
It probably will have lots of propietary shit... That don't play well with PC or other devices.
It probably will have lots of propietary shit... That don't play well with PC or other devices.
lughnasadh123
Member
I better finish with an orgasm each time for that price.
Evil Calvin
Afraid of Boobs
I won't even pay $500 for a
PSVR2 ........and I already have a PS5
VR is basically a gimmick, and tech demos. Fun for a bit but not going to play a huge RPG on it (actually most of the games are pretty small in scope).
PSVR2 ........and I already have a PS5
VR is basically a gimmick, and tech demos. Fun for a bit but not going to play a huge RPG on it (actually most of the games are pretty small in scope).
bluecowboys
Banned
If the VR headset can basically be a Mac, I think it will be worth it. Imagine having your own little office and being able to code and manage a lot more things at once. VR future is applications and productivity, not video games.
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Stuart360
Member
I dont know whats worse, the $3k price tag, or the fact it has a $3k price tag and they are making NO PROFIT.
Still Apple diehards will buy this, and they probably will hit that 1mil sales in the first year target, as crazy as that sounds.
I do find it interesting how some tech companies seem all in on VR, and some dont seem to care about it. Some companies do def seem to be taking a 'wait and see what happens' stance with VR.
For me, VR will never be mainstream until a VR headset looks like this -
I wonder how long we are away from that.
Still Apple diehards will buy this, and they probably will hit that 1mil sales in the first year target, as crazy as that sounds.
I do find it interesting how some tech companies seem all in on VR, and some dont seem to care about it. Some companies do def seem to be taking a 'wait and see what happens' stance with VR.
For me, VR will never be mainstream until a VR headset looks like this -
I wonder how long we are away from that.
Art The Clown
Banned
They got him
Minsc
Gold Member
I dont know whats worse, the $3k price tag, or the fact it has a $3k price tag and they are making NO PROFIT.
Still Apple diehards will buy this, and they probably will hit that 1mil sales in the first year target, as crazy as that sounds.
I do find it interesting how some tech companies seem all in on VR, and some dont seem to care about it. Some companies do def seem to be taking a 'wait and see what happens' stance with VR.
For me, VR will never be mainstream until a VR headset looks like this -
I wonder how long we are away from that.
Wonder where the battery goes, but yeah, probably 20-30+ years I'd guess.
midnightAI
Member
I don't think we are very far away from something like that but I don't even think that will be good enough due to light bleed everywhere so I think something akin to swimming goggles will be about the closest, but I expect retinal projection to be the future (unless we can eliminate the use of our eyes completely)I dont know whats worse, the $3k price tag, or the fact it has a $3k price tag and they are making NO PROFIT.
Still Apple diehards will buy this, and they probably will hit that 1mil sales in the first year target, as crazy as that sounds.
I do find it interesting how some tech companies seem all in on VR, and some dont seem to care about it. Some companies do def seem to be taking a 'wait and see what happens' stance with VR.
For me, VR will never be mainstream until a VR headset looks like this -
I wonder how long we are away from that.