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[Farawayfromhell]

I regret the times of the Mass Effect trilogy.

 

[Mista]

You're LTTP on that one.

The post is from August

 

[diffusionx]

They did well with the movement and shooting. They dropped the ball with everything else; most importantly having content.

cant launch a destiny competitor with 1/3rd the content of launch d1.

and then provide no content anyway ...

keep in mind fallout 76 is successful where anthem is not. Both launched at the same time and Bethesda’s product thrives.

BioWare got pwneddd

Making one of these games is really fucking hard. In a way, things like movement and shooting are the easy parts, because at least people are experienced making action games with lots of movement and shooting.

You need tons of content, a good skill system, balanced classes, an endgame system that encourages replay, and the ability to appease the poopsockers after they run through all your massively expensive content in a day and spend all day whining about the lazy devs on Reddit. All that shit is hard enough, if not impossible. But you also need to see how the poopsockers play and then tailor the game to them over time. This is partly why games like Division/Destiny suck at launch and get better over time. So you need to be in it for the long haul, which I really doubt EA ever understood.

Anthem never even got close though. That game was a disaster. I logged into the open beta and was really shocked at how bad it was. I don't know why everyone didn't cancel after that, honestly.

 

[saber45]

What's really hilarious about stories like this is that people assume that producers in the video game industry do fuck all anyway. They have nothing to do with any of the important aspects of game development.

They're a dime a dozen interchangeable suits. Worry when the lead art director or systems engineer leaves. Producers are useless.

Wow, you couldnt be more wrong. Most producers have backgrounds in other fields and are consulted on most elements of development. They are also in charge of the schedule of the games development which can influence what is and isnt in the game.

While most of the blame for Anthem shouldnt be laid anywhere near this guy (the suits above him will have made most of those decisons) he will have been actively involved in the development of the game.

Producers aren't suits. Learn more about game deve before you go around mouthing off.

 

[dirthead]

Wow, you couldnt be more wrong. Most producers have backgrounds in other fields and are consulted on most elements of development. They are also in charge of the schedule of the games development which can influence what is and isnt in the game.

While most of the blame for Anthem shouldnt be laid anywhere near this guy (the suits above him will have made most of those decisons) he will have been actively involved in the development of the game.

Producers aren't suits. Learn more about game deve before you go around mouthing off.

In other words, they're suits.

 

[saber45]

In other words, they're suits.

Well, I am one and im actively involved in all parts of development for the game I work on. All the producer friends I have were either lead designers or lead artists before they moved to production. So no, they arent suits.

 

[Siri]

Slightly warm shit isn't any better than slightly cold shit.

This doesn’t explain why Fallout 76 did well and Anthem didn’t.

 

[Halo is Back]

Signing a deal with EA is like contracting a terminal illness. You know death is coming, but not when.

 

[VertigoOA]

This doesn’t explain why Fallout 76 did well and Anthem didn’t.

Fallout 76 is more played than Division 2, halo 5 (lol) and Warframe on Xbox currently. Anectdotal but it should be similar for PS4 in the u.s. as well.

 

[zeorhymer]

Fallout 76 is more played than Division 2, halo 5 (lol) and Warframe on Xbox currently. Anectdotal but it should be similar for PS4 in the u.s. as well.

 

[HotPocket69]

I regret the times of the Mass Effect trilogy.

Well hopefully the rumored incoming remastered trilogy is not just a rumor

 

[Rean no Kiseki]

 

[Paltheos]

Not a surprise. That huge kotaku article on this game's development was quite the read.

 

[DCDW]

Not a surprise. That huge kotaku article on this game's development was quite the read.

But hey, at least in spite of all those issues, he made sure Anita Sarkesian came to the studio to give Anthem her blessing was top priority.

 

[Woo-Fu]

The post is from August

Is OK, you were late to the party then too. Most of what made Bioware Bioware left long before the Anthem debacle.

 

[Mista]

Is OK, you were late to the party then too. Most of what made Bioware Bioware left long before the Anthem debacle.

Ok.

 

[Winter John]

This doesn’t explain why Fallout 76 did well and Anthem didn’t.

Did well? It's a fucking disaster. In no way is F76 did or doing well.

 

[Siri]

Did well? It's a fucking disaster. In no way is F76 did or doing well.

It’s Bethesda’s third highest selling game ever.

 

[FMXVII]

This might be in bad taste saying this, but, why would anyone want to hire someone from leadership on Anthem?

Espionage.

 

[Winter John]

It’s Bethesda’s third highest selling game ever.

Lol.

 

[Siri]

Lol.

I’m not sure what the point of this is? I haven’t played Fallout 76 myself, but when a game sells well there’s always a reason for it.

You compared Fallout 76 with Anthem by saying both are shit - but you did nothing to explain why one of them ‘did well’ and the other didn’t. I was referring to sales.

Clearly you personally feel that both games are crap - and that’s perfectly fine - but you’ve not explained why Fallout 76 is making money for Bethesda and Anthem isn’t for EA.

 

[iconmaster]

Anthem Suffers Another Departure – BioWare’s Head of Live Service is Out

gamingbolt.com

We should just rename this to The Bioware Downward Spiral Thread.

 

[GymWolf]

So glad i sold this piece of crap without losing much money...

 

[Tomeru]

why Fallout 76 is making money for Bethesda and Anthem isn’t for EA.

Fans of Fallout setting?

 

[Arachnid]

...you’ve not explained why Fallout 76 is making money for Bethesda and Anthem isn’t for EA.

That seems kind of obvious. One is a new IP that failed to find its footing. The other is the only bad entry in one of, if not the, biggest RPG series of all time.

 

[Winter John]

I’m not sure what the point of this is? I haven’t played Fallout 76 myself, but when a game sells well there’s always a reason for it.

You compared Fallout 76 with Anthem by saying both are shit - but you did nothing to explain why one of them ‘did well’ and the other didn’t. I was referring to sales.

Clearly you personally feel that both games are crap - and that’s perfectly fine - but you’ve not explained why Fallout 76 is making money for Bethesda and Anthem isn’t for EA.

The only person around here who is saying they're "doing well" is you, and the only yardstick you have for them "doing well" is fuckin Anthem. Lol.

Maybe you'd like to tell us how much money F76 is making compared to, oh I don't know, Witcher 3?