http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1392294
So the alpha demo used checkerboard rendering, this rules out PC being used.
So the alpha demo used checkerboard rendering, this rules out PC being used.
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Anthem gameplay trailer. [EA/Bioware, PC/XB1/PS4, Fall 2018]
- Thread starter VisceralBowl
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There might be NPCs in the world that you can call on if you're going solo or something but probably nothing like what BW's SP IPs do. In the video there's the "Ally of the Week" Javelin we see so maybe something like that.
I do think and hope BioWare will fill the world with much more interesting NPCs than Bungie did.
Bioware should be well aware of how important NPCs are in an RPG, so I certainly hope this will be true.
By the way, not sure if it was known but it seems like Bioware Austin is also helping Edmonton on this one.
The Dude
Member
People are morons, I'm stoked for it.
dr_rus
Member
You can have checkerboarding on PC. In fact, it's appeared on PC first.
Not in a world in which the developer/publisher/platform-holder is well aware that the demo is going to be analyzed by DF, it doesn't.
Naked Prime
Member
I know I'm alone with this, but Anthem is totally a big budget AAA Earth Defense Force. And nothing is wrong with that
LukasTaves
Member
Yeah, but:
- The developer says it's running on an actual xbonex.
- The demo uses CB
- Motion Blur is equivalent to medium (console) settings of the engine, rather than matching what the engine is capable of in other games on PC
- Texture streaming/pop-in occurs really close to the player, again console like settings rather than very high/ultra on the engine
- Screen Space Reflections are also at least one tier below the maximum. Two issues that doesn't happen (according to DF) on the maximum settings of the engine is some objects not reflecting (in this demo explosion and particles), and not using a more heavy variant that solves the problem for objects not seeing on screen being reflected.
- Right before they flight towards the nexus there's a small loading stuttering
All this makes very possible it's actually running in real time on xbonex, specially since the developers have no need to lie, and apparently nor is Ms asking them to be dissuasive since the Metro guys confirmed it was PC at xbonex settings. In the very least it's an more honest trailer, because it does shows the issues games usually have on console rather than cranking everything to the absolutely maximum possible to paint the game under the most positive light like other bullshit reveals would do.
JimmyRustler
Gold Member
Read the Kotaku story on Andromeda. EA had little to do with how fucked up Andromeda got.
Why use checkerboard if you can go native and have a cleaner bullshot PC image?
Honestly I dont see why this could not be possible on consoles.
Chaos2Frozen
Member
GraveRobberX
Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
The game better have refined gunplay like Destiny
That's the thing most people get attached to with the game
Then the Community aspect is second, Loot third, end game fourth, then one by one
If Anthem wants to succeed, it needs to know why Destiny is Destiny
It's not just the Shared Online Loot Shooter (SOLS) that you need to match, it's also the way the guns feel, the way you use them and the strategy behind on what you equip
Going by the trailer, we've seen how fights play out to a point
But the gun play to me felt a little off
The abilities of mortar fire and lock-on missles looked great, but her scout rifle felt underwhelming when it was shot
The shotgun at the start felt light, no feedback of recoil or the sway of holding said weapon
Maybe I'm just too intuned with Destiny gunplay
That's the thing most people get attached to with the game
Then the Community aspect is second, Loot third, end game fourth, then one by one
If Anthem wants to succeed, it needs to know why Destiny is Destiny
It's not just the Shared Online Loot Shooter (SOLS) that you need to match, it's also the way the guns feel, the way you use them and the strategy behind on what you equip
Going by the trailer, we've seen how fights play out to a point
But the gun play to me felt a little off
The abilities of mortar fire and lock-on missles looked great, but her scout rifle felt underwhelming when it was shot
The shotgun at the start felt light, no feedback of recoil or the sway of holding said weapon
Maybe I'm just too intuned with Destiny gunplay
Synless
Member
EA owns Bioware right? They had everything to do with it. It's called poor project management.
Who knows. Given what we have seen Frostbite do with Mirrors Edge Catalyst and Star Wars Battlefront, i wouldnt be suprised to see an upgrade on high end machines.
JimmyRustler
Gold Member
They gave the huge freedom to make the game they want and they screwed it up.
But EA can't win I guess.
Synless
Member
Any efficient/responsible organization keeps a pulse on their workflow and how projects are progressing to ensure things are moving smoothly and are on course. Creative freedom is one thing, being completely irresponsible is another.
So far only R6:S right? I'm gonna guess that's a one-off.
Project management is lower level and technically should be owned by Bioware's team. I think maybe EA could be doing program management.
dr_rus
Member
Because it saves you ~30-50% of processing power with little perceptible quality loss? Decoupled shading is an area of very active research right now and I won't be surprised in the slightest if future GPUs will have some h/w features helping to achieve this in more s/w with higher efficiency.
+WD2 and I believe there was something else.
Spring-Loaded
Member
I feel like the guns would be cooler as part of the suit, like a shoulder- or forearm-mounted affair.
Christocolus
Member
Anthem Developers Tease Amazing Work and Enthralling Storytelling Shown at Internal BioWare Meeting
https://www.dualshockers.com/anthem-bioware-amazing-work-enthralling-storytelling/
https://www.dualshockers.com/anthem-bioware-amazing-work-enthralling-storytelling/
This game looked amazing at E3. Can't wait to see more.
few things
dualshockers not banned anymore.....huh when did that happen XD
Also sounds like they are further along than I thought honestly
Very excited, can't wait.....love the Exo's premise and of course blasting off the ground and zooming around the environments full superman style.....
Do we think we will see more info on this or final fantasy vii remake first lololol
Stilton Disco
Member
Ill believe it when I see it.
Even at their height, Bioware were only ever competent storytellers.
It was their supporting characters and the way they and the player interacted that really raised the studio above their competitors, and I cant imagine thats going to be possible in a game built around loot grinding online multiplayer.
Naudyboy16
Member
EA said this was delayed till Spring? I don't see this out until next holiday season. The hype train need a to start to roll.
Watching that trailer again, it looks soo good
Watching that trailer again, it looks soo good
They are underrated when it comes to combat gameplay design - BG, DAO, ME2, etc. Though the open-world thing trips them up hard.
Compsiox
Banned
If this comes out in 2018 my mind would be blown.
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
un33dab@dpu$$y
Yep, Baldur's Gate 2 is probably my favorite game ever, and even the story is nothing all that special.
Calm Mind
Member
Forsaken82
Member
When was it ever considered "Delayed" let alone "Delayed til spring"?
Did I miss something? Even the OP states Fall 2018.
Naudyboy16
Member
Originally wasn't it planned to be released this holiday season? No way I see it slipping into 2019
Naudyboy16
Member
Polygon
https://www.polygon.com/e3/2017/6/10/15776190/anthem-bioware-e3-2017
For some reason In my mind I thought I read that it was supposed to launch this year as one of Xbox One X's premier title but it got delayed.
Edit: I knew I wasn't crazy
http://wccftech.com/biowares-anthem-due-release-spring-2018/
NippleViking
Banned
Edit: Ah damn. Just saw above.
Highly doubt this will miss 2018. 2018 in Fall (perhaps September like Destiny does). They'll hopefully learn from Titanfall 2, and position it before next year's Battlefield (November), and the potential Star Wars game (Oct/November).
Maybe the NPD bros can correct me, but I think a game of this type doesn't need a big Fall launch (?).
NippleViking
Banned
I don't think it needs it either. It's very likely EA will push Anthem with one of their largest and most expensive marketing campaigns ever given how important this is to them, so it's going to have an enormous launch regardless of when they release it.
I just feel past precedent has shown EA will gravitate toward a holiday season release for an investment like this, and given how it originally targeted 2017, an additional 9-12 months of development should see it completed around that time too; if it's ready for end of next year, EA won't let a 200-400 man team sit on it any longer without return.
This is their attempt at a Destiny model. Anthem likely exists purely because EA wants something like that in their portfolio - an IP that captures customers in a model couched in microtransactions, content drip-feed, season passes, and annual expansion packs.
It will unquestionably have microtransactions, and they will very likely be lootboxes.
Though I do think EA might have the good sense to eschew a season pass, and go the free DLC route. It would really set them apart from the competition, and only bolster player engagement, reflecting in more micro transaction purchases.
Compsiox
Banned
There should be modes like Warzone in Halo 5 which is a mode for non-cosmetic loot. If games insist on having non-cosmetic lootboxes they should follow in its footsteps.
NippleViking
Banned
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Lootboxes filled with disposable one-time use cards is the absolute worst timeline. Fuuuuuuck that shit.
You traveled to the future and played it? How was it?
Sounds like an avatar bet to me.
Edit: This game looks great to me. Really looking forward to this super-ambitious vision.
I suspect EA will follow Ubisoft's Spring-ish launches (Division, For Honor and Ghost Recon) for GAAS which had been financially successful.
Interestingly Destiny 2 seemed to have stumbled out of the gate (?)
After seeing what they've done with Battlefront 2, I have no doubt Anthem will be absolutely jam packed with loot boxes and other micro transactions, and not limited to cosmetics either.
Compsiox
Banned
I wasn't really talking about that specific trait. Just having a seperate mode for noncosmetic content.
Finaika
Member
LOL