No he wasn’t he was showing how ridiculous the haters are. I mean how did you not get that?
Except you're making up bogus claims again which Is why I muted you in the first place.
You can't even prove it because I never said it. I disagree with people's points about the game because that can be debated, but if someone dislikes the game, then that's their own true feeling.
I said the MC user reviews aren't legit because there's no way people 40k+ people played the game and beat it within a few hours of the game releasing.
So, do you want to back up your statement where I said all negative reviews are disingenuous?
I have not stated that reviewers were paid by Sony, that is a ridiculous assertion. However, it is likely that game journalists could be compelled to give the game a great score to keep a good relationship with Sony. It's something similar to how Nintendo games always have very high scores even if the games themselves don't seem to have the quality the score suggests, but I digress. Not saying it happened, but it's conceivable.
It's a bit funny how you don't see how obvious it is that this game all the plaudits that it did because it's an LGBT game. The production value is excellent, but multiple other titles have them as well. The story and characters are a disaster, while other games during the same year at least had stories that weren't offensively bad. TLOU2 had no gameplay innovations to speak of, it's a game primarily driven by its story.
So, given how the game fails at its main objective, what is the reason why it got all the plaudits and praises? Because it's an LGBT game. And why are some people so passionate about defending this obviously flawed game? Because it's an LGBT game.
Absurd ideas are not obvious. If anyone makes this claim with zero evidence, then it's merely just a theory created in their head. "It scored very high and won many awards because it's a LBGT game and all the negative reviews are the real and honest reviews." You guys really don't see anything wrong with this line of thinking.
Dude what the fuck are you talking about. Lgbt doesn't have anything to do with the awards this game got, we already knew ellie was gay, it's not a new franchise. Joe didn't even play the game, he read the fucking leaks and made up his mind before even buying it. Of course that if you read the leaks you're going to approach the game in a complete different way. Just an example, when a main character is getting killed, he already expected it and instead of watching it and embracing it, he stood up and left the room and came back several minutes later missing a huge part of the game. How can you review something like that? Might as well just be honest and say you don't want to review the game because of the leaks.
Having established how bad the writing is in multiple videos, threads in internet forums and so on, why is it getting all the awards? The only reasonable explanation is that it's an LGBT game and it needs to be propped up,
Disagree, Last of 2 should be number one of this list.
8. Madden 2020
8. Fifa 2020 (Switch)
6. Predator: Hunting Grounds
5. Cyberpunk 2077
4. Warcraft 3: Reforged
3. Marvel's Avengers
2. Last of Us: Part 2
1. Fast and Furious: Crossroads
Do you agree with Joe's List?
Joel behaving like an naive imbecile is well written and consistent with his character? How about no. Its not an issue that he dies, but how he dies in the most moronic way.I have a hard time seeing how TLOU2 deserves to be on that list. It's a very well-crafted game that plays amazingly and is well-written.
Joel behaving like an naive imbecile is well written and consistent with his character? How about no. Its not an issue that he dies, but how he dies in the most moronic way.
I mean, given how retarded the plot is, how the characters turned into a retarded version of themselves for things to happen, the plot's pacing issues and general lack in making sense in all the events that happen, then no. I mean, calling TLOU2 game of the year is like calling season 7 of GOT the best TV show of the year, it's a mockery. The acting is very good and the graphics are exceptional, and if you like the game because of the atmosphere and visuals, then by all means, but to me and many other people that are big fans of the previous game, it doesn't cover up the disappointment at the shit plot and all the awful characters and writing.
Having established how bad the writing is in multiple videos, threads in internet forums and so on, why is it getting all the awards? The only reasonable explanation is that it's an LGBT game and it needs to be propped up, which the media will happily do because of the very compelling narrative that the people criticising the game are "bigots and white supremacists attacking an LGBT game". And about the fans, maybe you don't mind the flaws because perhaps someone in your life is LGBT and you want to support them and anything that is LGBT. Or maybe you don't mind the nonsensical story and characters because you like the ideology, I don't know. Or maybe you just want it to be good, because it had been 7 years since the previous game and the sequel being bad just shouldn't happen, or maybe you are there for the spectacle and you don't mind the ridiculousness of the plot.
Whatever your reason is, please don't attempt to gaslight me and others and tell me how everything nonsensical and shit about the game is not there.
No, D(ruckmann)Force. You muted me because I routinely called out your psychotic obsession of crying about the nonexistent horde of "haters" leading to constant derails in any thread that was even tangentially related to TLOU2. You are a disingenuous poster who constantly likes to ignore people who call you out for your bullshit and immediately ignore any evidence they bring up with strawman arguments and handwaving low effort replies. I have countered your points before and you can still easily find them. Maybe you should take what I said before to heart.
have countered your points before and you can still easily find them. Maybe you should take what I said before to heart.
There are still living in a post apocalyptic world where ressources are scarce. Its one thing if he is more relaxed inside his own group, but not when it comes tro Strangers. That is completly out of character and garbage.I can understand your point, but I would argue that the intent was to show how years had passed and Joel had let go of some of his distrust and anger. They'd lived for a while in their community and seemingly not run into many other humans who harbored ill will towards others. It is a matter of if the story should start off on the same premise as the first one or if the characters should be allowed to change leading up to the sequel. It is not the BEST written game of the year by far, but the short-comings it has does not justify it ending up on a ten worst games of the year list.
As expected, you don't have any proof.
All you're doing is telling me that people have the same opinion as you do. I can't sit here and waste my time because this is one of the most ridiculous arguments I have seen in awhile. lol
I asked for proof and you showed me nothing.
And thanks for showing me another example of your lies. I asked you to quote my post and you couldn't do it. This wasn't a counter, you just repeated the same lie again.
In your next post, show me where I said anyone who doesn't like the game is being disingenuous.
And more disingenuous hand waving replies that ignore everything posted. Not too surprised at this point.
Once again, you're proving to be a liar. It's not surprising someone who thinks all reviews and awards are rigged by the so called "woke media" would based their accusation on lies. Don't pretend you don't show up in every thread complaining about how everything is rigged and awards mean nothing. I'm here pointing out the ridiculous amount excuses people come up when you're just afraid to admit that people legitimately have a different opinion than you do.
This is why I muted you in the first place because you throw a fit whenever someone points this out. You're going back on mute because you bring nothing more to the conversation other than tinfoil hat theories created by political beliefs.
Really? Garbage? I understand there are some issues with the pacing/story, sure. But the achievement of voice acting, mocap, storytelling (from a high level at least) and reactive AI and how differently each battle can play out can’t be ignored.Not a big fan of Angry Joe but he’s right about TLOU2 it was garbage.
How are u gonna say u understand ppls issues with the story, but then say the storytelling is high level? lolReally? Garbage? I understand there are some issues with the pacing/story, sure. But the achievement of voice acting, mocap, storytelling (from a high level at least) and reactive AI and how differently each battle can play out can’t be ignored.
As I explained above, of course the LGBT angle is why it received the plaudits it did, there's no other reason. Of course he read the leaks since due to his profession he needs to stay on top of these gaming news and be part of the conversation. Now, if a character death is properly pulled off, in the proper context and with respect to the character, his story and personality, even a leak will not ruin that moment.
That is such a weird phrase: "embracing a character death". The story either pulls it off, or it doesn't, and TLOU2 is just so bad at it that it pisses people off and makes people want to stop playing the game. The bad reviews are warranted while the ones claiming it as a triumph, I see with a bit of humor.