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Analogue NT ($578 HDMI NES) |OT| Better than anything, and ready to ship years ago
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Virtua Ben
Member
So, I've just heard about the A-NT after seeing all of these website reviews. The shitty thing is, I was like "I want that!" but of course it's sold out and I can't find any information as to when they might have preorders for their next batch. Can anyone on here help a poor and lost soul such as myself and drop some knowledge on me?
PumpkinSpice
Banned
Sounded like there's not going to be another batch.
Next best thing (or better IMO) would be to get an HDMI or RGB modded AV Famicom.
sixteen-bit
Member
There's also the upcoming AVS as another HDMI alternative.
NOLA_Gaffer
Banned
I've been weighing my options for getting a NES or Famicom either HDMI or RGB modded and the AVS seems to not only have more features but isn't a whole lot more expensive. So at this point that's what I'm waiting for. (Plus I'd rather not risk ruining any of my original hardware.)
moltonasty
Member
The AVS definitely seems to be the best bet if you want HDMI at this point. I already have an RGBNES but for that price I'm considering picking one up.
PumpkinSpice
Banned
Right I forgot about that.
I'd imagine there should be other fairly advanced FPGA-based clone systems in the near future as well.
Virtua Ben
Member
Ugh. I don't know why you'd send out review units and then not have any to sell. I'll look into that though, thanks.
It feels like we are in the early days of an explosion of modifications and bespoke projects that augments these old systems. HiDefNES is ridiculously impressive (despite some of the problems it's introduced), but there's so much more on the way. I've been thinking about this and decided to switch my Analogue to stock RGB. I want it to be more like the ultimate expression of an analog (ha) NES. For HDMI and beyond, I'm digging the brave new world of the AVS and what will come after.
They sent out units to build up hype a while ago. The units went on sale and sold out over a year ago and then they announced a second and final batch in Winter that also sold out. I don't think they've been available to purchase for a long time besides the 24k gold ones in April.
Virtua Ben
Member
Virtua Ben
Member
It's a long shot, but I want to ask: Anyone willing to sell their Analogue NT? I'd be willing to pay a decent amount for an HDMI version.
It's a shame you weren't around a month ago, haha! I just sent my Analogue NT back for a full refund a few weeks back. It was a beautiful piece of hardware, but it didn't play nice with the Everdrive. Plus, I'd had a few other compatability issues, and wasn't pleased with Analogue's support.
Still though, beautiful hardware.
Virtua Ben
Member
Well damn!
I really think you should get the AVS rather than pay over the odds for an analogue. Preorders open in a week or so according to the official facebook feed at https://www.facebook.com/retroUSB/
as mentioned before, it's not emulation - it's a 100% hardware clone that functions identically to an actual NES and outputs via HDMI with no added lag. Also has various functions the NT does not have such as flawless Everdrive support (confirmed by retrousb) and scanlines. Price is $189.
Virtua Ben
Member
I read into that, but I'm a visual person. You give me an a sexy looking console and I don't mind paying a premium. It sounds like a solid product internally (and software-wise), but it just doesn't have the "looks".
Besides just looking good, one thing I really like is that it shows off the NES carts. The AVS hides them (except for the famicom carts, but it looks goofy when you use those with the AVS).
Besides just looking good, one thing I really like is that it shows off the NES carts. The AVS hides them (except for the famicom carts, but it looks goofy when you use those with the AVS).
thats pretty nice and a better price
that controller is freaking hideous though , wow
Virtua Ben
Member
At least I'm not the only one that thinks that way.
D.Lo
Member
Lol.
I'm guessing they kind of shat themselves when the NES mini was announced, it's definitely going to eat into their expected sales.
Virtua Ben
Member
From what I saw, he's not going for the same audience as the NES mini is. He's going for hard-core retro enthusiasts. The Mini is going for anyone and everyone.
Virtua Ben
Member
No one would have casual bought it, and i'll tell you why: you have to do research to find out when you can order it.
That's an advertisement problem though, not product positioning.
I can see casuals wanting the AVS: it's a cheap NES that's plug and play on modern displays, works with the old stash of cartridges that's kept at their parents, and if you bundle it with an Everdrive, it can play every game ever.
Ok I don't know if the AVS is going to be cheap.
It's 185 bucks.
D.Lo
Member
yeah I could have seen it making those 'tech nerd dream Christmas present' lists and doing well in gadget stores like thinkgeek.
Movalpolos
Banned
I'm still salty about missing out on this.
One issue I'm seeing with the AVS stems from its output - it seems to only support 720p.I really think you should get the AVS rather than pay over the odds for an analogue. Preorders open in a week or so according to the official facebook feed at https://www.facebook.com/retroUSB/
as mentioned before, it's not emulation - it's a 100% hardware clone that functions identically to an actual NES and outputs via HDMI with no added lag. Also has various functions the NT does not have such as flawless Everdrive support (confirmed by retrousb) and scanlines. Price is $189.
It still looks pretty neat, though.
With how it's designed, I can't see how that can't be changed with future patches.
Obviously that's hypothetical and you shouldn't get one before an actual patch is released if 1080p is important to you.
jediyoshi
Member
I can't imagine what the overlap is supposed to be. No one going out of their way to purchase the Analogue or AVS to utilize an actual games collection is then split now looking at the NES mini. No one looking to impulse buy the NES mini is thinking about spending the difference for the premium of the other products. It's like thinking GearVR is eating into the desktop VR market.
D.Lo
Member
It's really not that hard to imagine. HDMI NES.
Before the NES Mini was announced, this would have laid claim to be the only real HDMI NES. The first non-emulator garbage (eg Retron) affordable consumer product that played NES games and output over HDMI without being some complicated expensive mod-job (Kevtris board). Now there will be a much more famous HDMI NES available as well, and from Nintendo themselves no less.
It's not people who currently know about this stuff and are looking forward to that would be lost potential customers. It's casual tech geeks, who might have seen an 'HDMI NES' on tech websites once there was stock available of this and get interested, but who by then will now have an NES mini and probably think 'good enough for me'.
Lynd7
Member
1080p probably won't happen because the FPGA chosen for the machine hasn't enough logic processes left.
Write up I read here.
http://nerdlypleasures.blogspot.com.au/2016/05/the-avs-potentially-worthy-fpga-nes.html?m=1
Already have the NT, but I'm still fascinated by this design.
It's just that scaling 720p is kind of a pain in the butt on most TVs and the results are usually not that great.
GuyKazama
Member
The NES Mini is an emulator. Likely the same experienced offered by the Wii VC today, but with HDMI instead of component and a couple of display features. Nobody interested in the AVS is looking at the NES Mini as a satisfying alternative. Different markets.
Manmademan
Member
They're two completely different audiences.
The AVS is an "HDMI NES" that runs the original NES cartridges and requires them to work. These are not sold new anymore, and ones in decent condition are generally held by collectors and enthusiasts with large retro libraries, or selling for a premium on ebay.
Want to play that copy of Kabuki Quantum Fighter or MegaMan 4? Go nuts. It's supported.
The Nes Mini runs on HDMI but is not a NES. It comes with 30 games built in that nintendo picked for you, and is not expandable. It supports none of the original NES peripherals, and does not support existing carts. It won't even allow the loading of additional roms- unless someone manages to hack the crap out of it post release. If you have an existing NES library it does nothing for you. It is however very cheap at an expected $60 price point, which works well for its intended audience as none of those people are going to be dropping $15-30 a pop on used carts on ebay.
The AVS is a limited market release for the collector audience. The NES mini is designed for casual fans that haven't touched a NES game since the 80s, and have no interest in hunting down retro carts online or building a library. Apples and oranges.
PumpkinSpice
Banned
Maybe new thread for the AVS? There's not much more to talk about the NT anymore and release of the AVS seems to be coming soon. It might be interesting as well as a heads up for those avoiding the $500 NES topic.
Manmademan
Member
probably a good idea. I'm interested in it personally
NOLA_Gaffer
Banned
Waiting for a few impressions/reviews on the AVS before I drop the cash on it.
Chittagong
Gold Member
I hope someone does one! While there was less drama in bringing the AVS to the market, it would still be cool to have a history, pics, facts, link to buy, screenshots of the AVS in an OP.
I'd definitely encourage the effort. I've done two specialist OTs, this and the X51 OT, and it's really rewarding to see them start to have a life of their own.
I feel like it deserves its own thread as well. Brian spent a good 3 or so years bringing the AVS to life, taking great care to make sure that every title, peripheral/accessory (even the really niche stuff), homebrew, and flash cart would be compatible. All the additional features like the different aspect ratios, scanlines, built in GG codes and online leaderboards, etc. are just icing on the cake. All of that for $185 is a steal.
That's the last thing you'll want!!!
pete_clarf
Member
There is currently one on eBay that ships from Australia. Looks like it'd be over $1000 with shipping though.
jediyoshi
Member
Do you live in a hypothetical world where the concept of pricing is irrelevant? You're continually glossing over the fact that it's not actually a NES to begin with.
Chairman85
Member
Analogue NT Mini - an FPGA-based 1080p console.
Dolla Dolla
Member
Probably worth a new thread. I know a bunch of people will want to get in in this.