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Analysis Review After beating Returnal in roughly 11 hours, here are my review and Pro Tips!

How do you rate the difficulty "if you own the game"?


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i hate those fooking "tree" mobs which ever they're called soo annoying i fail at em cuz i never notice that when there's 2 of em that other1 always teleports to my back :D

They're pretty easy if you go straight to them and melee attack them. You can kill it in around 3 melee hits, with the first one causing it to stall.
 

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I think it would be harder if they added save checkpoints, but that would actually destroy some story elements. Dying in this game isn't bad, really. I've expected myself to suffer.
BTW you have to beat it a FEW times to get all the story.
 
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BTW you have to beat it a FEW times to get all the story.

Yeah, it was like some 2 houses story missing and then the final BS final ending. Just watched it on youtube. After beating the whole 1st biome and opening every door searching for that sunface piece, while as well jumping on those "hidden" platforms to find BS loot, I think I'm done with the game as I'm not a trophy hunter, and already saw what's missing. Would have been enraged if spent all that time just to get that very simple cutscene.

Maybe that's why it's roguelite. I've done my best to collect everything in the first session, only something really left was that intentionally hidden until you finish BS.

yeah but im old noob :D im like valhalla wolfie >>>>


That's hilarious. :lollipop_tears_of_joy: Valhalla was very good, waiting for the main DLC's.
 
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After the wonderful, positive comments and reactions I decided to gift someone a gold. Put all the blue ones here (golden ones you're already golden ;) )





And the winner is!




Does it use HDR?

Congratulations! 🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳
 

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Yeah, it was like some 2 houses story missing and then the final BS final ending. Just watched it on youtube. After beating the whole 1st biome and opening every door searching for that sunface piece, while as well jumping on those "hidden" platforms to find BS loot, I think I'm done with the game as I'm not a trophy hunter, and already saw what's missing. Would have been enraged if spent all that time just to get that very simple cutscene.

Maybe that's why it's roguelite. I've done my best to collect everything in the first session, only something really left was that intentionally hidden until you finish BS.



That's hilarious. :lollipop_tears_of_joy: Valhalla was very good, waiting for the main DLC's.
was captured on my ps5, cuz FFXIV friend said on discord that Valhalla is not buggy..proved it wrong , but finally got plat trophy on it week ago, as it was unobtainable soo long time cuz of uber updates :p
 
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was captured on my ps5, cuz FFXIV friend said on discord that Valhalla is not buggy..proved it wrong , but finally got plat trophy on it week ago, as it was unobtainable soo long time cuz of uber updates :p

I've collected everything and finished every mission in the game, but far from platinum! Spent like 162 hours. I only got a platinum by accident on Maneater while doing my thing: Finishing all side missions and main mission and collect all collectables as much as possible.
 

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I've collected everything and finished every mission in the game, but far from platinum! Spent like 162 hours. I only got a platinum by accident on Maneater while doing my thing: Finishing all side missions and main mission and collect all collectables as much as possible.
hardest part is 19 orlog players, but finished that with friend, but like 2 months ago there was 2 fishes missing and on january 1 world event/mystic was unobtainable cuz NPC was missing but it was still on map :p but use >>>

 
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hardest part is 19 orlog players, but finished that with friend, but like 2 months ago there was 2 fishes missing and on january 1 world event/mystic was unobtainable cuz NPC was missing but it was still on map :p but use >>>


Trophy hunting isn't my thing, I complete everything possible for the joy of it, and never replay the game again ;) Waiting for the DLC's now.
 
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I'm down for this type of thread. Props to you Bo_Hazem Bo_Hazem we need more threads like this and less petty arguments on this place. 👊

Im somewhat interested in the game, but ive never liked games that you have to beat in one sitting and that you have to start over once you die. Gives me PTSD of having a gamecube with no memory card growing up lol.

I think I'll wait for a sale before I give it a go but i'm glad that people are liking it.
 

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Trophy hunting isn't my thing, I complete everything possible for the joy of it, and never replay the game again ;) Waiting for the DLC's now.
wasnt my cup of tea like 5 years ago, but now im so obsessed to get plat trophies .. 37 so far :messenger_loudly_crying:
 
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I'm down for this type of thread. Props to you Bo_Hazem Bo_Hazem we need more threads like this and less petty arguments on this place. 👊

Im somewhat interested in the game, but ive never liked games that you have to beat in one sitting and that you have to start over once you die. Gives me PTSD of having a gamecube with no memory card growing up lol.

I think I'll wait for a sale before I give it a go but i'm glad that people are liking it.

Thank you! Happy to serve :)

After beating the main boss and going to the second level, that next level is always open to make a shortcut to quickly within few minutes. When you get their you get the upgrade to match the level difficulty with your next weapon.

wasnt my cup of tea like 5 years ago, but now im so obsessed to get plat trophies .. 37 so far :messenger_loudly_crying:

I know that feeling, that's why I avoid tempting myself to play for collecting trophies and just enjoy the games itself :)
 
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Depends on how you play/skills though. If you thing you're good with shooters then give it a go! ;)
Well I suck at shooters. But is nice to have a game that can be finished around 10 hours and gets praised.

Someday I'll play it. But it is too soon to think about PS5 (to me). I'm gonna see how Sony will handle the console first.
 
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8 hours here. I haven't beat the first biome yet. :pie_roffles:
I'm having a lot of fun just pissing around exploring and soaking it all in. Lots of systems that I didn't understand, so thanks for the tips OP.
I've tried the first biome boss 3 times. The first two times I didn't know wtf I was doing - didn't even fully realise that was the first boss (I suspected though).
The third time I nearly beat him.
 
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Thank you! Happy to serve :)

After beating the main boss and going to the second level, that next level is always open to make a shortcut to quickly within few minutes. When you get their you get the upgrade to match the level difficulty with your next weapon.



I know that feeling, that's why I avoid tempting myself to play for collecting trophies and just enjoy the games itself :)
will be soo hard for me "Estimated trophy difficulty: 8.5/10 (entirely skill-dependent, experienced players might find it to be a 7/10, some won’t beat the story and will find it to be a 10/10)" :messenger_downcast_sweat: :messenger_expressionless: >>

 
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Sekiro maybe, the rest kinda feel shallow story-wise. Also Sekiro seems to be the least clunky. Sometimes there are genres that you can't stomach, no need to force yourself.:lollipop_tears_of_joy:
The developers troll people who like to turtle up, wear a tonnne of armour, and carry a great shield; as such being clunky is an option but not a requirement. All soulsborne games can play fast if you want them to...sekiro being the best at it for sure but me thinks you have not given souls a proper chance based on the reasons you gave. you may have other reaosns and thats fine, but the ones you gave dont compute. The story is also the most amazing part as it is only uncovered cryprtically. ALthogh it is somewhat open to interpretation owing to that; and I admit at times I wonder if the developers are trolling the story seekers by not exactly having one, I still think you can get lost in the world and feel like you are in a special story. Several you tubers make their living off the story of souls games LOL.
Great post dude. I just started and have no idea how to know where to go some times. Like I press the right stick and I thought it would give me a way point. Any way to know for sure?
I dont think the rigth stick shows much more than doors immediate in the area. A better way to do it is to press the center pad, and go to the map menu. Then look for the symbol key and look for arches that are open, not closed etc. THe main path is white square arch for example, the blue triangle is optional (but really those tend to be thebest places to go for loot and interesting things item wise.) I admit the final orange waypoit didnt dhow for me outisde the first run I did. I wasnt sure how to get it back...may be you have to acheive something in the level first before the final waypoint is visible.
My two friends who bought this game are both complaining to me about crashes that have erased their progress. I've only played for 90 minutes or so, but jesus christ that's lame given the lack of save functionality. Was this mentioned in reviews anywhere? It's all over Reddit, Era, etc.
I was taking my time on my very first run and almost got to the final boss....the game crashed and I lost all progress except for two upgrades. I was pissed. Not even sure if I was wearing a different suit or not. I mean its one thing if you do something to deserve a death but in this case it was harder to take as I hadnt. I did some suicide runs to try differnt things and learn from death so to speak and that was ok .....died from a fall once more after going slow again (I know you get a second chance at falls if you have enough health but I didnt at that point.) Gotta say I have a love/hate feeeling for this game and perhaps other rougelikes etc. I can always handle souls deaths as its easy to farm souls back etc, but losing weapons and armour is tough to take. Does indeed take me back to the arcade days where one quarter is all you got to beat the game and feeding quarters to learn the game is the only way other than to watch others....butthat spoils it for you. I d rather suffer and figure it out mostly myself but this thread it greeat as it is sensitive to spoilers.

Had some hiccups. Still, only spent about 3 hours so far and half of that was serious and actually trying to succeed. I think with the tips in this thread things will go a lot better tonight ! Off to go play ....might stream on twitch or maybe not LOL...might be too embarrassing ;P
 
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I dont think the rigth stick shows much more than doors immediate in the area. A better way to do it is to press the center pad, and go to the map menu. Then look for the symbol key and look for arches that are open, not closed etc. THe main path is white square arch for example, the blue triangle is optional (but really those tend to be thebest places to go for loot and interesting things item wise.) I admit the final orange waypoit didnt dhow for me outisde the first run I did. I wasnt sure how to get it back...may be you have to acheive something in the level first before the final waypoint is visible.


Ok, yeah, I didn't see any orange triangles. When I get a chance to play again this post will help. Thanks!
 
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WTF! I need to fucking get through all the game again? Might give it a shot but I'm not into this kinda drag with no save mid-run. I'll give it a shot and see how I "consider" going through. Otherwise I'll just watch it on youtube. I don't replay the games I've beaten, only collect some missing stuff and that's it.

Nah you can only find the sun pieces after beating the last boss. There not there in act 1 and act 2.

Its the 3rd act of the game. When she says, I need to reignite the sun After the house scene after beating the last boss.

All the parts are open to find them throughout the level, nothing needs to be unlocked or beat bosses to find them.

In Helios you can change the return from the echoing ruins to the overgrown ruins.
 
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I'm somewhat stuck on the first boss, but at least now I can get him to the third phase some times.
Try getting much close to him. I treated him like a DS3 boss and hugged his nuts. Only need to watch out for his melee in phase 3.
 
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Finally defeated the first Boss on the 3rd attempt, all were done with the Electropylon Driver, immediately thought of Anarchy (exotic weapon from Destiny 2) when I first got it.
 
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Yeah, it was like some 2 houses story missing and then the final BS final ending. Just watched it on youtube. After beating the whole 1st biome and opening every door searching for that sunface piece, while as well jumping on those "hidden" platforms to find BS loot, I think I'm done with the game as I'm not a trophy hunter, and already saw what's missing. Would have been enraged if spent all that time just to get that very simple cutscene.

Maybe that's why it's roguelite. I've done my best to collect everything in the first session, only something really left was that intentionally hidden until you finish BS.



That's hilarious. :lollipop_tears_of_joy: Valhalla was very good, waiting for the main DLC's.
Ah, I see. This is one of those games after I beat I'll come back to. It's just so fun to play!
 

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oh snap thanks

You're welcome!

8 hours here. I haven't beat the first biome yet. :pie_roffles:
I'm having a lot of fun just pissing around exploring and soaking it all in. Lots of systems that I didn't understand, so thanks for the tips OP.
I've tried the first biome boss 3 times. The first two times I didn't know wtf I was doing - didn't even fully realise that was the first boss (I suspected though).
The third time I nearly beat him.

In case you guys thought my 11 hours were impossible, an Omani friend of mine beaten the game in 8 hours :) Not that I can't do it myself I think I can now get close to 5-6 hours if replaying the game is something I enjoy, and I don't. I usually do my games once and move on, try to play all side missions before taking the final main mission then done. No trophy hunting.

will be soo hard for me "Estimated trophy difficulty: 8.5/10 (entirely skill-dependent, experienced players might find it to be a 7/10, some won’t beat the story and will find it to be a 10/10)" :messenger_downcast_sweat: :messenger_expressionless: >>


I think most people are suffering because they're aiming down sight. You need to use hip fire all the time and aim only occasionally when nothing around you. And while fighting use a combination of changing your running direction, sprint sometimes to change spot, use environment for cover, use melee attack because it's so power.

The developers troll people who like to turtle up, wear a tonnne of armour, and carry a great shield; as such being clunky is an option but not a requirement. All soulsborne games can play fast if you want them to...sekiro being the best at it for sure but me thinks you have not given souls a proper chance based on the reasons you gave. you may have other reaosns and thats fine, but the ones you gave dont compute. The story is also the most amazing part as it is only uncovered cryprtically. ALthogh it is somewhat open to interpretation owing to that; and I admit at times I wonder if the developers are trolling the story seekers by not exactly having one, I still think you can get lost in the world and feel like you are in a special story. Several you tubers make their living off the story of souls games LOL.

I dont think the rigth stick shows much more than doors immediate in the area. A better way to do it is to press the center pad, and go to the map menu. Then look for the symbol key and look for arches that are open, not closed etc. THe main path is white square arch for example, the blue triangle is optional (but really those tend to be thebest places to go for loot and interesting things item wise.) I admit the final orange waypoit didnt dhow for me outisde the first run I did. I wasnt sure how to get it back...may be you have to acheive something in the level first before the final waypoint is visible.

I was taking my time on my very first run and almost got to the final boss....the game crashed and I lost all progress except for two upgrades. I was pissed. Not even sure if I was wearing a different suit or not. I mean its one thing if you do something to deserve a death but in this case it was harder to take as I hadnt. I did some suicide runs to try differnt things and learn from death so to speak and that was ok .....died from a fall once more after going slow again (I know you get a second chance at falls if you have enough health but I didnt at that point.) Gotta say I have a love/hate feeeling for this game and perhaps other rougelikes etc. I can always handle souls deaths as its easy to farm souls back etc, but losing weapons and armour is tough to take. Does indeed take me back to the arcade days where one quarter is all you got to beat the game and feeding quarters to learn the game is the only way other than to watch others....butthat spoils it for you. I d rather suffer and figure it out mostly myself but this thread it greeat as it is sensitive to spoilers.

Had some hiccups. Still, only spent about 3 hours so far and half of that was serious and actually trying to succeed. I think with the tips in this thread things will go a lot better tonight ! Off to go play ....might stream on twitch or maybe not LOL...might be too embarrassing ;P

See I can easily tell a game I won't like, and souls games are one of those. The only "somehow" good to my taste was Sekiro, but I somehow forget about it and now it's kinda old to my taste.

Also I've done my best to avoid any kind of spoilers, but hope this help people. I'm starting to consider making a stream of the 1st biome now on youtube, but not excited in doing so. It should take less than an hour to beat the whole area.

Blatant stealth brag thread.

part brother GIF



I'm gonna fucking kick this games ass today.

Go get it!

Nah you can only find the sun pieces after beating the last boss. There not there in act 1 and act 2.

Its the 3rd act of the game. When she says, I need to reignite the sun After the house scene after beating the last boss.

All the parts are open to find them throughout the level, nothing needs to be unlocked or beat bosses to find them.

In Helios you can change the return from the echoing ruins to the overgrown ruins.

Well, I finished the game, then closed the console. You're telling me that I should finish the game again and then go back to act 1 and then act 2 to collect all of these then beat the final boss for the 3rd time? Massive pass. Saw the ending on youtube, not worth it at all.

I'm somewhat stuck on the first boss, but at least now I can get him to the third phase some times.

Buy a figurine (1 extra life) get a large life pack, finish everything in the biome before heading to fight him. Use Hollowseeker, or the carbine. When he's shooting at you try to change you direction and also dash through his red wave/bullets. His purple bullets will hit you if you try to dash through them, like purple waves later on the game. When you dodge his melee attack, hit him 1-2 times with a melee attack because it deals massive damage.

Good luck!

Finally defeated the first Boss on the 3rd attempt, all were done with the Electropylon Driver, immediately thought of Anarchy (exotic weapon from Destiny 2) when I first got it.

I don't like those guns myself, but can see them working for some other fighting styles/players.

Ah, I see. This is one of those games after I beat I'll come back to. It's just so fun to play!

Hope you enjoy it!
 

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Just beat it this morning! May start it up again to see what else can be reveled/unlocked. Def an 8.5/10.

Congrats, mate! An 8.5/10 for Housemarque's first AAA game is actually pretty impressive. I would love that same gameplay in a more "relaxed" game, non-roguelite/like similar to Mass Effect Andromeda with small open world maps and dungeons. I'm really sad that SSM canceled their sci-fi shooter game, hope for the rumored ND sci-fi game to be true!
 
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Well, I finished the game, then closed the console. You're telling me that I should finish the game again and then go back to act 1 and then act 2 to collect all of these then beat the final boss for the 3rd time? Massive pass. Saw the ending on youtube, not worth it at all.

Nah, you have access to all the levels when you finish it once, so you dont have to play through it like before.


Plus to get the story info you have to translate the xenoglyhs and get all the sound bites.
Theres another house scene when you get all the sun pieces
I have most of it done, pretty easy and fun lol
 
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Nah, you have access to all the levels when you finish it once, so you dont have to play through it like before.


Plus to get the story info you have to translate the xenoglyhs and get all the sound bites.
Theres another house scene when you get all the sun pieces
I have most of it done, pretty easy and fun lol

Yeah already seen it on youtube. I think I had enough fun/torture with the game, time to pass for the next game! Thanks a lot for the details ;)
 

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I'm gonna fucking kick this games ass today.
This is good stuff. Two big takeaways:
  • Wait to open weapon chests until you have raised weapon proficiency. This causes spawned weapon to be higher level.
  • Also wait to pick up green integrity until u have full health so that it adds to the maximum. Clearing out a level first, healing, then collecting green health pickups to max your health bar.
 
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This is good stuff. Two big takeaways:
  • Wait to open weapon chests until you have raised weapon proficiency. This causes spawned weapon to be higher level.
  • Also wait to pick up green integrity until u have full health so that you main bar adds to the max.

This waiting game could be very dangerous though. I usually just open them all as mini bosses throw guns as well. I would stick with hollowseeker even if it's 5 levels lower.
 
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I think I am going to play this game like I used to let my daughter play games when she was young. Just going to sit with a powered down controller and watch a walkthrough on Youtube. :messenger_winking:
 
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Lol at anyone watching a Youtube walkthrough of this game. Gameplay is most of the fun.
Of course it is. I hope you were not referring to my comment above. It was obviously a joke. Well. ...a joke in that I am most likely not going to play it anyway because I am not the biggest fan of rogue-likes.
 
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Thats it, your reviewer status just went down to zero for me. LOL



I think I am going to play this game like I used to let my daughter play games when she was young. Just going to sit with a powered down controller and watch a walkthrough on Youtube. :messenger_winking:

If you lack the reflexes, yes. But if you're good at shooters then give it a go.

Lol at anyone watching a Youtube walkthrough of this game. Gameplay is most of the fun.

 

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Still confused even after finishing the secret ending Lol.

I still think its all in her head... Helios is the name of the child Im guessing...
 
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