That's pretty much it. Appearances are everything.
However, people who called Essendon drug cheats this year should probably sit back and acknowledge there is a 67% chance their own club did the same.
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AFL (Aussie Rules) 2013 |OT| See the Bombers Shoot Up, Up
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That's pretty much it. Appearances are everything.
However, people who called Essendon drug cheats this year should probably sit back and acknowledge there is a 67% chance their own club did the same.
I labelled Essendon drug cheats, still do.
I love me a good booing of Watson too. West Coast style.
I don't think all 12 clubs have crossed the line into illegal substances. Have some? Possibly. With Essendon the evidence is pretty substantial
Just the same as Buddy and Swan being able to 'sit out rounds' instead of serving suspensions.
AFL is all about image and reputation because it makes them money
Extends into the image of game into Sydney and Brisbane.
Sydney having COLA and now their interference into Brisbane's board woes (not publically or course)
Dodgy
I love me a good booing of Watson too. West Coast style.
I don't think all 12 clubs have crossed the line into illegal substances. Have some? Possibly. With Essendon the evidence is pretty substantial
Just the same as Buddy and Swan being able to 'sit out rounds' instead of serving suspensions.
AFL is all about image and reputation because it makes them money
Extends into the image of game into Sydney and Brisbane.
Sydney having COLA and now their interference into Brisbane's board woes (not publically or course)
Dodgy
Essendon have so far been pinged for 'governance failures', a key element of which was not being able to document who took what, when, and how much.
11 other clubs have the same problem according to today's news.
I notice hypocrites have gone to ground.
With respect to Swan, Cousins and Franklin, I do think illicit drugs need to be treated differently to PEDs, but the fact that it was kept so quiet does suggest there is more PR going on rather than actually making sure players' health is looked after.
Sydney's COLA is a rort, plain and simple. It's not about being an expensive city, it's purely about making inroads into a market with a strong competition in the form of the NRL, and the easy way to make money there is to make a successful team. Equal playing fields be damned.
Brisbane is undergoing karma for their own rorting 10 years ago.
It was a lot more than 'governance issues' with Essendon.
Lots of records and exchanges of illegal substances being bandied about. The Crime Commission are involved as well.
You may have been done for lack for governance but other clubs aren't being highlighted in criminal investigations.
Agree on the COLA.
I see Brisbane's success as karma for Fitzroy. AFL screwed them over. Notice the AFL took away Brisbane's allowance after they won their premierships as well.
Lots of records and exchanges of illegal substances being bandied about. The Crime Commission are involved as well.
You may have been done for lack for governance but other clubs aren't being highlighted in criminal investigations.
Agree on the COLA.
I see Brisbane's success as karma for Fitzroy. AFL screwed them over. Notice the AFL took away Brisbane's allowance after they won their premierships as well.
As far as what they have actually been charged with and sanctioned over to date, it is.
Obviously the story has more chapters to come. But their "disrepute" charges stem from governance issues and not from any drug taking which is still yet to be finalised.
Yep. And I acknowledged that.
You've been charged with what can be proven at this point with a huge question mark that will possibly never be answered.
That's why you've been done and the other clubs haven't.
The AFL would like to be able to say 1 way or another that you've done illegal drugs or not; but they can't.
They had to do something though, so you got done for 'governance'
You've been charged with what can be proven at this point with a huge question mark that will possibly never be answered.
That's why you've been done and the other clubs haven't.
The AFL would like to be able to say 1 way or another that you've done illegal drugs or not; but they can't.
They had to do something though, so you got done for 'governance'
PhantomZone
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Not even the best hawthorn goal of 2013, and somebody didn't watch gc vs geelong.
PhantomZone
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In the context of the game and the fact that Smith is not the most reliable when taking set shots at goal it was hugeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, I do think the Franklin goal against Collingwood was Hawthorns best of the year (good team setup and execution).
Ablett does that kind of thing weekly so he pretty much has IDDQD - GOD MODE enabled all the time lol.
Jables Swan
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No where near.
GOAT!
Jables Swan
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Great goal that one.
PhantomZone
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That was cruel, but since the Kennett curse was eliminated in the preliminary final.... it bounced off me like it was a bullet being shot at Superman :-D.
And the Westhoff goal was pretty darn good too.
I like the look of the Essendon side for 2014, age when next season starts in brackets. A lot of players are getting to that age and amount of games played where they can take it to the next level.
Baguley (26) - Carlisle (22) - Fletcher (38)
Dempsey (26) - Hooker (25) - Hibberd (24)
Goddard (28) - Watson (29) - Stanton (27)
Zaharakis (24) - Hurley (23) - Chapman (32)
Kommer (23) - Ryder (26) - Winderlich (29)
Bellchamers (24) - Hepell (21) - Hocking (26)
Melksham (22) - Myers (24) - Howlett (25)
Merrett (21)
Got Pears, Hardingham (could play forward too, might need to this season) and Van Unen as backups down back.
Daniher hopefully comes through late this year if not 2015.
Browne, Dalgleish, Colyer, O'Brien, Edwards, Kavanagh, Edwards and Hams on the come up too, I'm hoping 2014 is Kav's break out year... he was top ten talent in the 2011 draft. I would want him to go past a few players on the side I listed when the year is over.
Also thank fuck we got hit in the next two drafts... if we couldn't F/S Daniher last year or Tom Wallis (Pendlebury like, the pick of the bunch coming through the next few years) in 2015 it would've been a tragedy. Might lose Long's kid next draft but all the wraps are on Wallis....
Baguley (26) - Carlisle (22) - Fletcher (38)
Dempsey (26) - Hooker (25) - Hibberd (24)
Goddard (28) - Watson (29) - Stanton (27)
Zaharakis (24) - Hurley (23) - Chapman (32)
Kommer (23) - Ryder (26) - Winderlich (29)
Bellchamers (24) - Hepell (21) - Hocking (26)
Melksham (22) - Myers (24) - Howlett (25)
Merrett (21)
Got Pears, Hardingham (could play forward too, might need to this season) and Van Unen as backups down back.
Daniher hopefully comes through late this year if not 2015.
Browne, Dalgleish, Colyer, O'Brien, Edwards, Kavanagh, Edwards and Hams on the come up too, I'm hoping 2014 is Kav's break out year... he was top ten talent in the 2011 draft. I would want him to go past a few players on the side I listed when the year is over.
Also thank fuck we got hit in the next two drafts... if we couldn't F/S Daniher last year or Tom Wallis (Pendlebury like, the pick of the bunch coming through the next few years) in 2015 it would've been a tragedy. Might lose Long's kid next draft but all the wraps are on Wallis....
Next season is going to be corker, 13 sides with a legit shot @ making Top 8.
Hawks, Fremantle, Sydney
Geelong, Essendon, Port, North
Collingwood, Richmond, Adelaide
Carlton, Gold Coast, West Coast.
Freo going to Freo, Hawks come back a bit, Sydney best 22 is dangerous but they lost most of their depth, they going to kill some sides but their bottom 6 players are going to cost them against Freo and Hawks. Geelong lost some good players and Hawkins back is going to be an ongoing issue. Essendon, Port, North and Richmond should improve, Adelaide forward line is going to be deadly if Walker comes back anywhere near he was prior to his injury. Collingwood and Carlton are massive wildcards for differing reasons, could this be the year of the Suns? And West Coast might get that Sanderson/Hinkley boost with Simpson....
All I know is that we can't use Pick 19 (the one we really fought for) in the 2014 draft for F/S purposes. A lot of split discussion on if we could use our round 3 pick on say Long if he turns out a gun and someone wanted to use their first round pick on him.
Hawks, Fremantle, Sydney
Geelong, Essendon, Port, North
Collingwood, Richmond, Adelaide
Carlton, Gold Coast, West Coast.
Freo going to Freo, Hawks come back a bit, Sydney best 22 is dangerous but they lost most of their depth, they going to kill some sides but their bottom 6 players are going to cost them against Freo and Hawks. Geelong lost some good players and Hawkins back is going to be an ongoing issue. Essendon, Port, North and Richmond should improve, Adelaide forward line is going to be deadly if Walker comes back anywhere near he was prior to his injury. Collingwood and Carlton are massive wildcards for differing reasons, could this be the year of the Suns? And West Coast might get that Sanderson/Hinkley boost with Simpson....
All I know is that we can't use Pick 19 (the one we really fought for) in the 2014 draft for F/S purposes. A lot of split discussion on if we could use our round 3 pick on say Long if he turns out a gun and someone wanted to use their first round pick on him.
Yeah, no footy until early Feb. Early March for season proper. Most Aussies are in cricket mode right now, or at least I am.
There are a bunch of matches on YouTube, especially Grand Finals, so maybe that will tide you over for a while.
Jables Swan
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This time of year I like to see the kids getting a run and hoping the new players to the club bust their guts to prove their worth.
For the Pies this year that means Jesse White, Taylor Adams, Tim Broomhead and Nathan Freeman.
For the Pies this year that means Jesse White, Taylor Adams, Tim Broomhead and Nathan Freeman.
Jables Swan
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Agreed.
Sorry boys and girls, I've actually moved to London at the moment, so if somebody more up with what's going on wants to whip up the 2014 OP, be my guest. Otherwise I could try and whip something up over the weekend maybe, but it won't be super flash.
In a related note, does anyone know the best way to watch the footy abroad? Eurosports over here apparently plays only 1 game a week, which I assume will be the Friday game, which seems to be a glut of collingwood, Carlton and kangaroos games (fair enough, considering they finished above Port.... Oh wait)
In a related note, does anyone know the best way to watch the footy abroad? Eurosports over here apparently plays only 1 game a week, which I assume will be the Friday game, which seems to be a glut of collingwood, Carlton and kangaroos games (fair enough, considering they finished above Port.... Oh wait)
I'll bung up a 2014 thread this morning.
Also for streaming, probably try http://watchafl.afl.com.au
It's free during NAB cup.
Also for streaming, probably try http://watchafl.afl.com.au
It's free during NAB cup.
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