Add in the fact he is not a player anymore, and same page.
As an aside, 1/2 would make a great prop bet line. I could easily see the over winning even though I'd like to believe the under would win.
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As an aside, 1/2 would make a great prop bet line. I could easily see the over winning even though I'd like to believe the under would win.
Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
I guess it depends on your definition of PEDs and when you wanna bet they are taking them. If you are talking about big bad stuff like steroids and other things to drastically improve their physical performance during the season I would say it is WAY below half.
But if you are talking about enhancers and substances in the off season and during the season to help them bounce back from injury then I would say it is well over half.
Because let's be real here. As good as modern medicine is and as good as surgical techniques have gotten you don't tear your Achilles or your ACL and then show up to training camp 9 months later in peak physical form and start running drills without SOME kind of help from some questionable substances.
I think you're spot on. I would probably include no prescription / off label use of products during season too (anything they may not test for yet to help with energy / pain). And honestly, I really don't fault these guys much if at all. Is it cheating --> yes. But would I do it if I was in that fringe group sitting between jacked gym rat and multi-million dollar athlete? Of course.
Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
Oh absolutely. I don't fault them at all. A shot at generational wealth as well as it helping with their physical long term health? I would do the same in a heartbeat.
Tschumi
Member
I think the expectation that records are there to be broken has two effects... one, training gets better... two, doping gets more and more attractive.
Cycling is ruined for me. Thanks, Lance, but thanks also everyone else who sprints up mountains for a month. I still kinda like cycling for the spectacle, but 0% for the competition. Unless a french rider wins le tour. I'd be excited for that.
Cycling is ruined for me. Thanks, Lance, but thanks also everyone else who sprints up mountains for a month. I still kinda like cycling for the spectacle, but 0% for the competition. Unless a french rider wins le tour. I'd be excited for that.
ThatStupidLion
Member
Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
It's not just training and drugs either. As time has gone on food has become more nutritional and more widely available. So our athletes of today grew up eating better food and having been better taken care of compared to someone who played in the 40s 50s and 60s who grew up during harder economic times. So our athletes are bigger, stronger, and have access to superior medicine.
Which is why some of the older records are so goddamn impressive. Chamberlain, Ruth, Mantle, Hank Aaron, etc etc. All have records that still stand today and will likely be standing for a very very long time despite playing at a time when the training and the medicine were basically medieval by today's standards
Tschumi
Member
Good points!
I also remarked to The Babe the other month that things like YouTube have globalised elite training methods, leveling the playing field in many sports that used to be dominated by wealthy nations
Tschumi
Member
No worries mate, i left it way too fucking late to put it up lol
Nobody_Important
was mvp getting his predictions up... Vegas bender all weekend...
Maiden Voyage
bustedd.. somehow busteedddd
Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
Yeah you see that no where better than the NBA. Superstars from all over the world.
Maiden Voyage
Gold™ Member
I gave up the drink last year.No worries mate, i left it way too fucking late to put it up lol
... Vegas bender all weekend...
The only excitement I had was trying to get back to my hotel from across town. We were meant to go to an event last night, couldn't find the place. Eventually I said screw it and went back to my hotel. I had an edible earlier so I knew Uber/taxi would spoil the adventure. So, I attempted to make my way back solo across town while high af. Everything was great until I hit MGM. The whole thing probably took 45 mins, when it should have been like 20.Here was my route:
Manadalay Bay -> Excalibur via tram -> walk to MGM -> get lost for 30 mins trying to find the Monorail entrance -> Monorail -> Sahara
It sounds relatively easy except, you walk through the casinos to get off or on the Monorail. The problem is that directional signs are nowhere and no indication where you should look (or maybe I was too sauced). I wound up outside walking around the building to the other side, thanks to the help of Maps on my phone (this alone was like a 10 min walk). To boot, all the street access stairways were 'closed to the public'. Just as I was about to cave and find a cab, I noticed a small elevator and a tiny sign for the Monorail. From there it was less exciting.
I think it is crazy that thousands of intoxicated people wander that city every day without issue. And I thought I had a good sense of direction.
And you know, now that I'm home and looking at Maps again, yeah I walked around 75% of the perimeter when I could have done it in 25%... Let that be the lesson.
Ribi
Member
you say that but his brother was involved in a big scam involving memorabilia just a few years ago and that got swept under the rug too.
Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
I wouldn't exactly call it big, but if you just don't like the Mannings then that's your thing I guess. I can't stop you.
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Tschumi
Member
Reminds me of a night spent walking around unfamiliar Jakarta trying to find my way back to my parents' house through a rat's nest of sidestreets... In the end a security guard rode me home on his scooter and we crushed his back wheel in a pothole with my 90kg ass.. gave him all my money for repairs lol, nice man.. then when i was walking to the apartment i slipped and fell into the swimming pool...I gave up the drink last year.
Here was my route:
Manadalay Bay -> Excalibur via tram -> walk to MGM -> get lost for 30 mins trying to find the Monorail entrance -> Monorail -> Sahara
It sounds relatively easy except, you walk through the casinos to get off or on the Monorail. The problem is that directional signs are nowhere and no indication where you should look (or maybe I was too sauced). I wound up outside walking around the building to the other side, thanks to the help of Maps on my phone (this alone was like a 10 min walk). To boot, all the street access stairways were 'closed to the public'. Just as I was about to cave and find a cab, I noticed a small elevator and a tiny sign for the Monorail. From there it was less exciting.
I think it is crazy that thousands of intoxicated people wander that city every day without issue. And I thought I had a good sense of direction.
And you know, now that I'm home and looking at Maps again, yeah I walked around 75% of the perimeter when I could have done it in 25%... Let that be the lesson.
... Forgot to mention i was stone cold sober, just very clumsy
Tschumi
Member
Don't need peds to have godlike skillz, I'm not a fan of either of his teams and i still think he was a great
Ribi
Member
million dollars involved is usually pretty big.
Tschumi
Member
OKAY GUYS LET'S REBOOT THE PREDICTIONS
ROUND 4 PREDICTIONS - NEW SCORING SYSTEM
I'm trying to do this a lot earlier in the week so more people have a chance to join in You must now join in.
I propose to track % accuracy per week, rather than total points. This should allow people coming in in this and subsequent weeks to more quickly settle into an accurate place in the table. I want to think of a potential secondary way to track winners, maybe I'll put gold stars next to names or something... Maybe people joining after the halfway point of the season can get some kind of handicap, I dunno yet. IF ANYONE HAS A BETTER IDEA, I'm entirely open to it
If you want an example of a shitty percentage, I'm happy to oblige
I'm gonna go ahead and tag some people, guys you don't have to write the predictions, but it'd be super if you could pick winners to join in the fun! Just trying to get a community bubbling I promise I won't do this every week, after these tags I'll leave it to everyone's whim.
AlteredForms
Pagusas
N
NickFire
F
Flash Junkins
manfestival
drganon
Toytown Assassin
natjjohn
Elpidio Valdés
bender
Okay! Let's try fit in the THURSDAY GAME, too!
Bengals - Jags - Burrow will keep throwing to Chase and my fantasy team will keep noming it up.
Jets - Titans - Oh Zack Wilson good luck brother, get yourself a touchdown at least.
Bears - Lions - Nick Foles might turn around the bears if he starts, but it's hard to look past the Lions after their start. Goff is underrated, imo...
Dolphins - Colts - The Dolphins have done a decent job so far, I predict a bit of joy for them this week.
Vikings - Browns - The Browns are legit this year. I had OBJ on my bench until last week and someone already snapped him up! Fie.
Falcons - Washington - WhhhFT have looked pretty decent, I think their unheralded QB will look hella good against these opponents.
Bills - Texans - Yep, Bills don't look like giving away this one.
Saints - Giants - I wouldn't be surprised if the saints didn't score a single point this week, and for this pattern to continue, but yeah hard to go against them.
Eagles - Chiefs - The Chiefs haven't looked crash hot but the Eagles just came down to earth.
Cowboys - Panthers - I remarked last week that with Dak under center it's hard to go against the Cowboys in toss-ups like this.
49ers - Seahawks - Underwhelming record thus far doesn't change my belief that Russ Wilson is a fantastic QB, he'll out-professional the 49ers.
Rams - Cardinalds - These are the matchups that undermine prediction totals, Kyler Murray might totally kill it and run this game, but the form book points to the Rams.
Packers - Steelers - I think the black doom and gloom over the Steelers is a slight exaggeration, but this ain't the week for them to be upsetting that narrative.
Broncos - Ravens - Ravens aren't looking as dominant as previous seasons but they are on le roll.
Patriots - Buccaneers - through smart game management the pats will have a field goal to win and they'll slot it.
Chargers - Raiders - The Invisible Man, Carr, and his team might be silent killing machines, but the Chargers have a real zip to their step at the moment and have a collection of super effective skill players.
ROUND 4 PREDICTIONS - NEW SCORING SYSTEM
I'm trying to do this a lot earlier in the week so more people have a chance to join in
You must now join in.I propose to track % accuracy per week, rather than total points. This should allow people coming in in this and subsequent weeks to more quickly settle into an accurate place in the table. I want to think of a potential secondary way to track winners, maybe I'll put gold stars next to names or something... Maybe people joining after the halfway point of the season can get some kind of handicap, I dunno yet. IF ANYONE HAS A BETTER IDEA, I'm entirely open to it
If you want an example of a shitty percentage, I'm happy to oblige
I'm gonna go ahead and tag some people, guys you don't have to write the predictions, but it'd be super if you could pick winners to join in the fun! Just trying to get a community bubbling
I promise I won't do this every week, after these tags I'll leave it to everyone's whim.
AlteredForms
Pagusas
N
NickFire
F
Flash Junkins
manfestival
drganon
Toytown Assassin
natjjohn
Elpidio Valdés
bender
~Score going in - Weekly % of Correct Predictions~ Tschumi = 56.25%
Nobody_Important
- 64.5833%  
ThatStupidLion
- 62.5% |
Okay! Let's try fit in the THURSDAY GAME, too!
Bengals - Jags - Burrow will keep throwing to Chase and my fantasy team will keep noming it up.
Jets - Titans - Oh Zack Wilson good luck brother, get yourself a touchdown at least.
Bears - Lions - Nick Foles might turn around the bears if he starts, but it's hard to look past the Lions after their start. Goff is underrated, imo...
Dolphins - Colts - The Dolphins have done a decent job so far, I predict a bit of joy for them this week.
Vikings - Browns - The Browns are legit this year. I had OBJ on my bench until last week and someone already snapped him up! Fie.
Falcons - Washington - WhhhFT have looked pretty decent, I think their unheralded QB will look hella good against these opponents.
Bills - Texans - Yep, Bills don't look like giving away this one.
Saints - Giants - I wouldn't be surprised if the saints didn't score a single point this week, and for this pattern to continue, but yeah hard to go against them.
Eagles - Chiefs - The Chiefs haven't looked crash hot but the Eagles just came down to earth.
Cowboys - Panthers - I remarked last week that with Dak under center it's hard to go against the Cowboys in toss-ups like this.
49ers - Seahawks - Underwhelming record thus far doesn't change my belief that Russ Wilson is a fantastic QB, he'll out-professional the 49ers.
Rams - Cardinalds - These are the matchups that undermine prediction totals, Kyler Murray might totally kill it and run this game, but the form book points to the Rams.
Packers - Steelers - I think the black doom and gloom over the Steelers is a slight exaggeration, but this ain't the week for them to be upsetting that narrative.
Broncos - Ravens - Ravens aren't looking as dominant as previous seasons but they are on le roll.
Patriots - Buccaneers - through smart game management the pats will have a field goal to win and they'll slot it.
Chargers - Raiders - The Invisible Man, Carr, and his team might be silent killing machines, but the Chargers have a real zip to their step at the moment and have a collection of super effective skill players.
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AlteredForms
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Giants are about to get slaughtered against the Saints and end up losing 4 games in a row. We should have won against Washington and Atlanta but out offensive coordination is terrible. FIRE JASON GARRETT!!!
Elpidio Valdés
Member
I'm at work so I can't write too much but I'll write my predictions below:
Bengals beat Jaguars
Titans beat the Gang Green
Chiefs beat The Eagles
Cowboys beat Carolina
Saints beat Eli's former team
Vikings beat Browns
Lions beat Bears
Bills destroy Texans
Miami beats Colts -- Pretty please
Atlanta beats The team formerly known as The Redskins
Seahawks beat 49ers
Rams beat Cardinals
Packers beat Steelers
Ravens beat Broncos
The Deflater & Gronk beat Bellicheat
Chargers beat Raiders
Bengals beat Jaguars
Titans beat the Gang Green
Chiefs beat The Eagles
Cowboys beat Carolina
Saints beat Eli's former team
Vikings beat Browns
Lions beat Bears
Bills destroy Texans
Miami beats Colts -- Pretty please
Atlanta beats The team formerly known as The Redskins
Seahawks beat 49ers
Rams beat Cardinals
Packers beat Steelers
Ravens beat Broncos
The Deflater & Gronk beat Bellicheat
Chargers beat Raiders
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Tschumi
Member
fucking legend, thank you elpidio valdes san.
I like your take on Bucs v Pats rofl
Elpidio Valdés
Member
No problem bro!
Lol that's just some of the names Dolphins fans have given opponents. I lurk on one of their forums and those guys are hysterical. There was even a "fandom war" and now there are 2 different enemy forums of Dolphins fans. A GAF/ERA kinda affair.
Tschumi
Member
Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
Less than $20,000 actually.
Giants, Manning memorabilia fraud case settled
A settlement has been reached in a lawsuit that claimed Giants quarterback Eli Manning provided bogus "game-worn'' equipment that was sold to unsuspecting collectors.
And even then nothing was ever proven in court. The whole case was settled out of court.
Elpidio Valdés
Member
Oh no that "war" happened years ago, hell I think it happened in the mid 2000's. I think thephins is the original forum and finheaven is the era equivalent. I think it was about the Brees, Saban & Culpepper debacle.
...is it about Tua?
Tschumi
Member
oohhh i see i see... it is fun to imagine conflict over tua tho
Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
I'll get my picks in this afternoon. Need to look over the injury reports and defensive stats.OKAY GUYS LET'S REBOOT THE PREDICTIONS
ROUND 4 PREDICTIONS - NEW SCORING SYSTEM
I'm trying to do this a lot earlier in the week so more people have a chance to join in
I propose to track % accuracy per week, rather than total points. This should allow people coming in in this and subsequent weeks to more quickly settle into an accurate place in the table. I want to think of a potential secondary way to track winners, maybe I'll put gold stars next to names or something... Maybe people joining after the halfway point of the season can get some kind of handicap, I dunno yet. IF ANYONE HAS A BETTER IDEA, I'm entirely open to it
If you want an example of a shitty percentage, I'm happy to oblige
I'm gonna go ahead and tag some people, guys you don't have to write the predictions, but it'd be super if you could pick winners to join in the fun! Just trying to get a community bubbling
Tschumi = 56.25%
Okay! Let's try fit in the THURSDAY GAME, too!
Bengals - Jags - Burrow will keep throwing to Chase and my fantasy team will keep noming it up.
Jets - Titans - Oh Zack Wilson good luck brother, get yourself a touchdown at least.
Bears - Lions - Nick Foles might turn around the bears if he starts, but it's hard to look past the Lions after their start. Goff is underrated, imo...
Dolphins - Colts - The Dolphins have done a decent job so far, I predict a bit of joy for them this week.
Vikings - Browns - The Browns are legit this year. I had OBJ on my bench until last week and someone already snapped him up! Fie.
Falcons - Washington - WhhhFT have looked pretty decent, I think their unheralded QB will look hella good against these opponents.
Bills - Texans - Yep, Bills don't look like giving away this one.
Saints - Giants - I wouldn't be surprised if the saints didn't score a single point this week, and for this pattern to continue, but yeah hard to go against them.
Eagles - Chiefs - The Chiefs haven't looked crash hot but the Eagles just came down to earth.
Cowboys - Panthers - I remarked last week that with Dak under center it's hard to go against the Cowboys in toss-ups like this.
49ers - Seahawks - Underwhelming record thus far doesn't change my belief that Russ Wilson is a fantastic QB, he'll out-professional the 49ers.
Rams - Cardinalds - These are the matchups that undermine prediction totals, Kyler Murray might totally kill it and run this game, but the form book points to the Rams.
Packers - Steelers - I think the black doom and gloom over the Steelers is a slightly exaggeration, but this ain't the week for them to be upsetting that narrative.
Broncos - Ravens - Ravens aren't looking as dominant as previous seasons but they are in le roll.
Patriots - Buccaneers - I still think Belichik made the dynasty, but he ain't got the players or the QB to win this. It might run extremely close, though... I hope the Pats win but I can't back them.
Chargers - Raiders - The Invisible Man, Carr, and his team might be silent killing machines, but the Chargers have a real zip to their step at the moment and have a collection of super effective skill players.
Elpidio Valdés
Member
Haha there is plenty of conflict over Tua! Some posters are accusing others of TDS "Tua Derangement Syndrome". It centers around Justin Herbert for some reason. The first reply to the OP is "Sorry Ms. Herbert" It's hilarious. Every fandom has passionate fans so I imagine there are wild things happening on other teams forums too.
Tschumi
Member
Herbet? Oh boy, what fresh hell is this
Ah well, I'll leave them to it rofl...Herbet clearly has epic weapons boths ways in ekeler and allen... but i'm just gonna leave that input here on this forum
Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
Oh there is plenty of craziness going on in other forums and discord so I can assure you of that.
The Broncos fans in particular are divided. It's like half of them are excited that they are 3-0 and then the other half of them have it in their brain that they are going to get Aaron Rodgers. Meanwhile Panthers fans are treating Sam Darnold like the second coming of Joe Montana.
Elpidio Valdés
Member
That's interesting, I read today that Steelers fan were hyped about possibly getting Rodgers. I haven't heard anything about the Broncos. But who can blame them, they got the steal of the century with Manning a few years back so maybe they can do it again.
Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
Jags over Bengals - I think Lawrence shows up in primetime.
Titans over Jets - Wilson does not throw a interception
Bears over Lions - Even with all their problems at QB I will never pick the Lions against anyone if I can help it. Hockenson gets a TD though.
Colts over Lolphins - This is a toss up. Both teams suck.
Browns over Vikes - Chubb and Hunt eat the Vikes alive.
WFT over Failcons - Matt Ryan has a fumble.
Bills over Texans - Allen continues his dominance. 3 TDs.
Giants over Saints - This only happens if Barkley is healthy. If he is then he has a big game and they win. If he doesn't start/leaves the game the Giants will lose.
Chiefs over Eagles - The Chiefs take out their frustrations on the Eagles. Kelce catches 2 TDs.
Cowboys over Panthers - I really really wanna take the Panthers here, but I need to see them beat a good team first. Then I am on board. Dak has 2TDs.
Hawks over Niners - The 49ers are a mirage. Wilson has 3 TDs.
Rams over Cards - Really close game, but Ram win with a field goal.
Packers over Steelers - Warrior God Aaron Rodgers has 3 TDs as the Packers make the Steelers defense wish they were never born.
Broncos over Ravens - The Bronco shock the world by going 4 and 0. Ravens have 3 turnovers.
Chargers over Raiders - Herbie is the real deal. He has 3 TDs.
Not as confident this week. I took a chance on the Giants and the Broncos. Also kinda iffy on my Rams pick. I think that game will be really close. It could just come down to who has the ball last.
Titans over Jets - Wilson does not throw a interception
Bears over Lions - Even with all their problems at QB I will never pick the Lions against anyone if I can help it. Hockenson gets a TD though.
Colts over Lolphins - This is a toss up. Both teams suck.
Browns over Vikes - Chubb and Hunt eat the Vikes alive.
WFT over Failcons - Matt Ryan has a fumble.
Bills over Texans - Allen continues his dominance. 3 TDs.
Giants over Saints - This only happens if Barkley is healthy. If he is then he has a big game and they win. If he doesn't start/leaves the game the Giants will lose.
Chiefs over Eagles - The Chiefs take out their frustrations on the Eagles. Kelce catches 2 TDs.
Cowboys over Panthers - I really really wanna take the Panthers here, but I need to see them beat a good team first. Then I am on board. Dak has 2TDs.
Hawks over Niners - The 49ers are a mirage. Wilson has 3 TDs.
Rams over Cards - Really close game, but Ram win with a field goal.
Packers over Steelers - Warrior God Aaron Rodgers has 3 TDs as the Packers make the Steelers defense wish they were never born.
Broncos over Ravens - The Bronco shock the world by going 4 and 0. Ravens have 3 turnovers.
Chargers over Raiders - Herbie is the real deal. He has 3 TDs.
Not as confident this week. I took a chance on the Giants and the Broncos. Also kinda iffy on my Rams pick. I think that game will be really close. It could just come down to who has the ball last.
I do believe you left off the most anticipated regular season game in the history of sports.
CrankyJay™
Member
Bills by a million
Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
Huh?
Your list is missing the most anticipated regular season game in the history of sports. 20 years, 6 titles together, was it coach, was it qb, each with at least 1 ring not with the other. you know, the thing.
Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
If anyone knows Tom's weaknesses its Bill and that asshole loves taken out the best players on teams.
You mean like Malcom Butler???????????????
Yep, I'm still salty over that absurd pissing contest when he proved system > super bowl trophies or whatever shit he was trying to prove.
But I do agree with you. Letting Kamara make a mockery of the home team last week notwithstanding.
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
Tschumi
Member
Sam Cool... Doesn't have the same ring to it...
Toytown Assassin
Member
Time for another Thursday night classic!
Tschumi
Member
I remembered it this time!
Toytown Assassin
Member
well that's an unexpected start
Toytown Assassin
Member
I'm not expecting it to last but they're not playing like the usual jags atm. The bengals are looking more like the 0-3 team so far.
Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
The Jags are making me look like a fucking genius right now lol
Tschumi
Member
I KNOW RIGHT wtf i was thinking that on the way to a chore a moment ago "whadafaa"
Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
I just had a feeling that Lawrence would play hungry tonight because of it being Primetime against Burrow.
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