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Doctor Who: Time Of The Doctor |OT| 11's hour is over now... The clock is striking 12
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DiipuSurotu
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Past Doctors forget when they meet future Doctors. See Hurt, Ten, etc.
Future Foundation
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I decided to cheat a little and follow some live reactions. Didn't help, but the frenzied reactions are hyping me up beyond belief.
Keyser Soze
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Capaldi is in his 50s, right?
They made him look very older than that
They made him look very older than that
Well, I loved it. Wrapped up the lingering threads well enough, told a decent story in its own right and gave Matt Smith a good send-off, Amy included (shame they clearly couldn't get Caitlin Blackwood for young Amelia though). Wasn't mad about the instant regeneration - I like seeing the transformation - but hey, Capaldi. Hit the spot.
DrForester
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As nice as the speech was, I would have preferred him to have showing up as Capaldi when Clara entered the TARDIS. That ending at the top of the tower would have been great.
Bit with Amy was nice, but didn't really ad anything.
Clara not wanting this Doctor didn't really sit well with me since she has actually interacted with ALL the Doctor's past selves and knows it's not the end.
Bit with Amy was nice, but didn't really ad anything.
Clara not wanting this Doctor didn't really sit well with me since she has actually interacted with ALL the Doctor's past selves and knows it's not the end.
funkystudent
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I hope the show and I are still around to see how they write themselves out of the regeneration limit next time around.
Sir_Crocodile
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Episode was pretty decent.
They finally did justice to the Trenzalore prophecy which was very nice.
They finally did justice to the Trenzalore prophecy which was very nice.
Adam Scott Aukerman
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That'll just be his Scottish genes.
Keyser Soze
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Handles was Fonejacker!
Oh, God.
Matt's last moments - and words - will be etched into my soul forever. That was brilliant, and well acted from both Smith and Coleman. I genuinely hold Eleven close to my heart and I'm gonna miss him dearly. I'm so glad he got the epic exit he deserved. Anything less would've been an insult to Eleven/Smith. I even had a small tear welling in my eyes.
Matt's last moments - and words - will be etched into my soul forever. That was brilliant, and well acted from both Smith and Coleman. I genuinely hold Eleven close to my heart and I'm gonna miss him dearly. I'm so glad he got the epic exit he deserved. Anything less would've been an insult to Eleven/Smith. I even had a small tear welling in my eyes.
Could have been that in seeing his past regenerations she knows his personality will change and doesn't want to see this one go.
DiipuSurotu
Banned
Same here :'(
I like how you're pretending that I didn't already apologize for that. Seriously, I am so tired of you. In that post you deleted yesterday you admitted you didn't actually care, so to keep harping on about it on Christmas day is just bad form.
JonathanEx
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I looked on Twitter and out turns out it was too complicated, not dramatic enough, more of the same stuff, too much mess, the ending didn't redeem it... Twice as long would have been better, and it went on a bit too long.
Well fuck that I bloody loved it, lots of satisfactory explanations, funny and sweet moments throughout and the ending just was amazing on top of all that.
And the ending cameos helped cause tears, so anything but pointless.
Well fuck that I bloody loved it, lots of satisfactory explanations, funny and sweet moments throughout and the ending just was amazing on top of all that.
And the ending cameos helped cause tears, so anything but pointless.
Keyser Soze
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What does Twitter say...
Oh no!
Oh no!
People can't watch anything nowadays without doing tweets/facebook/chat/message board and then complain what they were watching was too complicated. They don't pay attention and complain afterwards.
StalkerUKCG
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Not to be a downer. To me smith went out as he came in. Dull. I liked his doctor but not this episode it was very bland. The whole thing felt like it never delivered on the spectacle or suspense.
Could have done without the needles stuff which was 90% of the episode.
The revelations didn't really pay off either. Silence are just some priests, feels like he had to tie up ends and did so badly. A throw away line to explain why the silence and the church where together and then not.
Moffat era stinks of him creating interesting plot lines that he never has a full conclusion to or end up feeling ham fisted.
Could have done without the needles stuff which was 90% of the episode.
The revelations didn't really pay off either. Silence are just some priests, feels like he had to tie up ends and did so badly. A throw away line to explain why the silence and the church where together and then not.
Moffat era stinks of him creating interesting plot lines that he never has a full conclusion to or end up feeling ham fisted.
APZonerunner
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Basically the perfect summary for Matt's run - perhaps a bit too much going on for its own good, great ideas with not enough time. The episode could've used another 30 minutes to breathe, and probably would've been much better had it been as long as the other two regeneration stories - even Parting of the Ways was technically 90 minutes, being a two parter. RTD used to come up with good ideas and camp them up, Moffat comes up with good ones and then throws them all into a massive, massive vat, and it dilutes everything a bit. The scenes he gave space to breathe - the last ten minutes - really sing.
I get a feeling a lot of this is owed to series 7, though. It's easy to write about how massive a battlefield trenzalore is when it's a past event, but then he has to depict it and he's written into an awful corner. Happens a lot in this show, under both modern regimes.
Still, a very solid episode, and everything from the moment Clara arrives to see him super old onwards is simply magnificent. Liked the double fake out - in how they subvert our expectations with a young Matt, and then again with a literal snap regeneration. Capaldi's first scene was simple, yet great. Not sure I agree with moffat's claim that it was the most manic post regeneration scene ever - that's Matt, who, if you count it, is pipped by a Tennant in the Children In Need scene between PotW & TCI.
I think this is on first viewing at least my least favourite of the modern regeneration stories, mainly because I don't think the time lapse stuff really worked too well. It's still bloody magnificent, though, a top notch episode of Doctor Who, and the best thing on telly this Christmas.
Oh, and, the Rings of Akahten song as his regeneration music! I called it!
I get a feeling a lot of this is owed to series 7, though. It's easy to write about how massive a battlefield trenzalore is when it's a past event, but then he has to depict it and he's written into an awful corner. Happens a lot in this show, under both modern regimes.
Still, a very solid episode, and everything from the moment Clara arrives to see him super old onwards is simply magnificent. Liked the double fake out - in how they subvert our expectations with a young Matt, and then again with a literal snap regeneration. Capaldi's first scene was simple, yet great. Not sure I agree with moffat's claim that it was the most manic post regeneration scene ever - that's Matt, who, if you count it, is pipped by a Tennant in the Children In Need scene between PotW & TCI.
I think this is on first viewing at least my least favourite of the modern regeneration stories, mainly because I don't think the time lapse stuff really worked too well. It's still bloody magnificent, though, a top notch episode of Doctor Who, and the best thing on telly this Christmas.
Oh, and, the Rings of Akahten song as his regeneration music! I called it!
Adam Scott Aukerman
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In fairness, I was paying attention and I barely followed any of it. The plots aren't really why I watch Doctor Who though, so luckily it doesn't really matter.
The last few seasons have basically been Moffat's MGS4.
PowderedToast
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kinda wish moffat was also stepping down alongside smith, because that episode had all of his worst tendencies in full effect. just nonsense sentimental bombast. so much dialogue that accomplishes so little.
i don't mind the plot contrivances he used to reset the regenerations, fair game as there was little else he could do. but good lord, smith in awful old doctor makeup shooting beams from his hands and shouting cheesy lines could make the top 5 of dumbest doctor who moments, and i say that as a fan.
the final scene was the only moment i felt something, was quite well done. capaldi looks great but i'm concerned about whether he'll be supported by consistently good writing.
i don't mind the plot contrivances he used to reset the regenerations, fair game as there was little else he could do. but good lord, smith in awful old doctor makeup shooting beams from his hands and shouting cheesy lines could make the top 5 of dumbest doctor who moments, and i say that as a fan.
the final scene was the only moment i felt something, was quite well done. capaldi looks great but i'm concerned about whether he'll be supported by consistently good writing.
APZonerunner
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He said 'new regeneration cycle', so another 12 goes, yeah.
Adam Scott Aukerman
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I think he said regeneration sequence, but yeah the gist was that he has another 12.
edit: almost!
ScreenSplitter
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It had a good ending, but was generally pretty "meh". Though one thing; I have tried, and tried but; Get rid of Clara. Oh my god get rid of her. She's awful. And boring. And whiny. I don't give a shit about her extended family, I don't give a shit about the kids she babysits, I don't give a shit about the done to death Doctor crush plotline, and I give even less of a shit that she apparently knows nothing about Amy and is such a whiny baby about regeneration.
Get rid of her. Get rid of her. Get rid of her.
/rant
Get rid of her. Get rid of her. Get rid of her.
/rant
Don't worry - even though she's half high entia, she may still transform in the future.
APZonerunner
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I do think this -- it's probably going to get critically mauled and I reckon the AI might be on the low side. I do think this has to be the beginning of the end for Moffat now. Critical mauling might well help to push that narrative within the BBC too. Think he should establish Capaldi for a series then go. It's time for a change. (Unless he does something drastically totally different for Capaldi, but I don't think he can.)
StalkerUKCG
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Can really blame people the plot was a mess.
For some reason that no one mentions (I don't think) every one visits trenzalore.
Trenzalore gets a shield put around it and for some reason has a truth field.
Doctors gets to planet because he knows the people who lock it
On the planet he finally comes face to face with a crack that didn't close because ....
But the crack isn't causing harm this time for some reason so it's okay.
Crack has time lords behind it
Time lords are asking doctor who? to confirm its the right universe
Doctor won't answer because another Time war will start because once they figure out it is the right universe they will return
All the bad guys who are in space are trying to kill the doctor on the planet so he send Clara away
300 years later Clara comes back then gets sent back again but this time doctor has his tardis
Then the crazy monk woman flys the tardis back to get Clara so she can say bye to a dying doctor.
He goes to his death but then Clara tells the time lords in the wall crack it is the right universe and instead of coming back like they want they decide just giving the doctor some life will do? (Logic is lost on me here)
Big explosions
Some talking scene in which Amy shows up for some reason (doctor hallucinating?)
Bam capaldi
Lots of stuff makes little sense of gets too little exposition.
For some reason that no one mentions (I don't think) every one visits trenzalore.
Trenzalore gets a shield put around it and for some reason has a truth field.
Doctors gets to planet because he knows the people who lock it
On the planet he finally comes face to face with a crack that didn't close because ....
But the crack isn't causing harm this time for some reason so it's okay.
Crack has time lords behind it
Time lords are asking doctor who? to confirm its the right universe
Doctor won't answer because another Time war will start because once they figure out it is the right universe they will return
All the bad guys who are in space are trying to kill the doctor on the planet so he send Clara away
300 years later Clara comes back then gets sent back again but this time doctor has his tardis
Then the crazy monk woman flys the tardis back to get Clara so she can say bye to a dying doctor.
He goes to his death but then Clara tells the time lords in the wall crack it is the right universe and instead of coming back like they want they decide just giving the doctor some life will do? (Logic is lost on me here)
Big explosions
Some talking scene in which Amy shows up for some reason (doctor hallucinating?)
Bam capaldi
Lots of stuff makes little sense of gets too little exposition.
Can kicked down the road for another 50 years. Be interesting to see how they deal with it next time
if I live that long.
ScreenSplitter
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The more I think about it... the more I think about things I didn't like. I get what they were going for with the Handles scene, but my Mum was casually watching and laughed her ass off at that part.
APZonerunner
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Don't have a problem with Amy, hallucinations are an established part of regenerations as early as the second one. Thought it was lovely. Not as nice as the Rose before meeting him followed by the walk through the snow, though, IMO.
It won't last that long! If they all follow 'The Troughton Rule' or less (which I think they will), it'll be three years a Doctor or thereabouts... Hopefully we don't have another 15 year gap!
It won't last that long! If they all follow 'The Troughton Rule' or less (which I think they will), it'll be three years a Doctor or thereabouts... Hopefully we don't have another 15 year gap!
ScreenSplitter
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Carrying on my Clara rant; hilarious how snubbed she was in that final scene! Just another indicator to me what a massive mistake it was introducing a brand new companion at such a pivotal stage in the show.
"First face I saw..."
*not even looking at Clara*
What a massive "Fuck you", I love it!
Someone said Peter is older than when William first played the Doctor on twitter.
I said
"Same Age, Will died in 75 at 67. - 12 years (to 1963 when he played the first Doctor) is 55. Peter is 55."
So uhh yeah, fun fact: Both were 55 during the year the started playing the Doctor.
I said
"Same Age, Will died in 75 at 67. - 12 years (to 1963 when he played the first Doctor) is 55. Peter is 55."
So uhh yeah, fun fact: Both were 55 during the year the started playing the Doctor.
Broken Joystick
At least you can talk. Who are you?
Underwhelming following the 50th, but wasn't a bad episode. Liked how it 'rewarded' you for watching everything since Matt's first episode. But Moffat feels like the Kojima of Doctor Who now.
Can't wait for Capaldi!
Can't wait for Capaldi!
Well the damn TiVo stopping the recording literally 3 seconds before the new doctor appeared, but we managed to rewind live TV to catch it.
My 12 year old said it looks like they are going back to old doctor who
My 9 year old daughter has now decreed she doesn't want to watch it any more, and she'll sue the people that make doctor who. I hope she just misses Matt Smith, he was her favourite
My 12 year old said it looks like they are going back to old doctor who
My 9 year old daughter has now decreed she doesn't want to watch it any more, and she'll sue the people that make doctor who. I hope she just misses Matt Smith, he was her favourite
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