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Playstation All Stars Battle Royale Discussion thread [Up: Leakfest #11]

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Mr. Fix

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Someone here will most likely find a reason to make a new thread for either the new characters as an impressive set or just one of them planned based off of satisfaction for their inclusion, alone.

How about some deconfirms? I feel it wrong to let people hope for ___ to be in when it'll inevitably lead to disappointment, especially if those characters logically make sense to be included with the roster. More specifically, Snake's not a fully playable character, is he? :/
 
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thepotatoman

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I think Mega Man would be a great character to include in the game. I remember playing Mega Man 8 with the original PlayStation. I don't know if that would be a big enough connection to warrant a character slot, but Mega Man was an important character to me on NES, SNES and PlayStation.

http://www.giantbomb.com/mega-man-8-anniversary-edition/61-19393/

Mega Man is my favorite video game character period, but I don't put him on any of my wishlists anymore because Capcom officially hates him. Its no use hoping for something that will never happen again.
 

Jawmuncher

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How about some deconfirms? I feel it wrong to let people hope for ___ to be in when it'll inevitably lead to disappointment, especially if those characters logically make sense to be included with the roster. More specifically, Snake's not a fully playable character, is he? :/

I agree itd be nice if they threw out a few names and said something along the lines of
"These people aren't going to be in the game we promise, but theres always a chance if theres a sequel"
 
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thepotatoman

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Did Paul Gale confirm if the character was one of the leaks, or something that is unknown?

According to his hype, its most likely an unleaked character. Either that or he is really really impressed with the way one of the leaked characters plays.
 

shink

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I agree itd be nice if they threw out a few names and said something along the lines of
"These people aren't going to be in the game we promise, but theres always a chance if theres a sequel"

Probably leads to more disappointment than anything. I can see some third party characters as DLC. I personally don't mind DLC characters as long as it's reasonably priced.
 
I'm just gonna play it safe and not hype up myself to gamescom. Either way I'm getting the game Day 1 since it's amazing from what I've been playing in the beta. It's just that I feel as though the greatest things will come(be shown) last.
 
I'd assume Sack Boy and Raiden since they were both prominently featured on the site mess up.

I figure the Gamescom reveals will be them two and a third character that Paul is referring to, that I like to call "The Big Kahuna"
I can get as hyped as I want because I'll be happy just seeing Sackboy haha.
Something I would like to see outside of characters is the intro to the game or some sort of cool cinematic.
 

Jawmuncher

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I figure the Gamescom reveals will be them two and a third character that Paul is referring to, that I like to call "The Big Kahuna"
I can get as hyped as I want because I'll be happy just seeing Sackboy haha.
Something I would like to see outside of characters is the intro to the game or some sort of cool cinematic.

I agree there.
Remember the brawl trailer that revealed snake?
It would be cool for them to do something similar here for that supposed "big kahuna".
Like you though i can get hyped regardless since so long as they do show raiden i'll be happy.
 

Figboy79

Aftershock LA
Man, I just had a pretty tough run (came in second twice, and won one). People are getting pretty damn good. I need to step up my game, but I haven't been playing it much lately (trying not to burn myself out, like I did with the Killzone 2 MP beta; played it so much that by the time the game released, I just wasn't interested in playing MP).

I'm a single player gamer at heart, so that's kind of the main reason why I'm interested in a game like this, but the MP is really fun. I'm really looking forward to couch sessions with my buddies over, playing on the big screen.

I still stand by my assertion that Radec and Sly are uber troll material. I was in a match with 3 Radecs (THREE!!!) that was the stuff of nightmares, especially because two of them had a hard on for spamming the same attack over and over again (bouncing me around like a rag doll).

One of the guys was really good though, especially at using the old "prep the shot in the air, so when you land it hits" tactic. Fricking Radec.

Still loving this game with a passion, and I'm actually finding myself getting better at setting up my combos and supers. To the point where I can get up to level 2 really fast (I usually stick with Level 1s, but I was doing so well with combos, I hit level 2 pretty quickly). The thing is, with a level 2, you want to try and wait for an opening to snag two or more players, but sometimes that opening takes a while, and then if you whiff it, or only get one kill, it feels like you waste it.

For the most part, I wasn't frustrated tonight, but I still had a great time. I really enjoy when I'm playing well, and playing with other people that are really good (but man, some of you guys are BEAST with your chosen mains). I'm sticking it out with Kratos until the end (of the beta, that is). I just really want to learn him inside and out, and not jump around to too many other characters. I'm kind of trying to save the rest so they'll be new to me come retail release.
 
I haven't played PBR today yet, but I wanted to be a part of this thread before it finally hit 20,000 posts.

I love FFXIII, so I'd be cool as beans with Lightning over Cloud.

I'd love to have some Dark Cloud characters in there. Max or Monica would be great.
Overall, I'm just pleased as punch that the game is actually fun. I was really worried it wouldn't be executed as well as it is. I'm getting super pumped that gamescom is coming up.

You know, it's horrible that I'm wanting this weekend to be over, just so Gamescom can come sooner. Lol. I have to go back to work Monday, and instead of enjoying my weekend, I'm like, "God dammit, end already so I can find out more about PBR!" I have a problem, I really do.

Love you, man <3

Even though I love Max, I'd rather see Monica for that female rep. Also, Super 3 must be Max on Ridepod >:D

Well, if the new reveals are going to make everybody happy, we can disqualify the controversial Evil Cole and Lightning, and put extra stock in Crash
 
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thepotatoman

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I'd assume Sack Boy and Raiden since they were both prominently featured on the site mess up.

Yes that is a good assumption to make, but apparently there was a podcast where someone from superbot said it'd be more than 2 characters so there's plenty of reason to hope for an unleaked character.

but that's NOT a promise and please don't hurt me if it ends up disappointing.
 
Man, I just had a pretty tough run (came in second twice, and won one). People are getting pretty damn good. I need to step up my game, but I haven't been playing it much lately (trying not to burn myself out, like I did with the Killzone 2 MP beta; played it so much that by the time the game released, I just wasn't interested in playing MP).

I'm a single player gamer at heart, so that's kind of the main reason why I'm interested in a game like this, but the MP is really fun. I'm really looking forward to couch sessions with my buddies over, playing on the big screen.

I still stand by my assertion that Radec and Sly are uber troll material. I was in a match with 3 Radecs (THREE!!!) that was the stuff of nightmares, especially because two of them had a hard on for spamming the same attack over and over again (bouncing me around like a rag doll).

One of the guys was really good though, especially at using the old "prep the shot in the air, so when you land it hits" tactic. Fricking Radec.

Still loving this game with a passion, and I'm actually finding myself getting better at setting up my combos and supers. To the point where I can get up to level 2 really fast (I usually stick with Level 1s, but I was doing so well with combos, I hit level 2 pretty quickly). The thing is, with a level 2, you want to try and wait for an opening to snag two or more players, but sometimes that opening takes a while, and then if you whiff it, or only get one kill, it feels like you waste it.

For the most part, I wasn't frustrated tonight, but I still had a great time. I really enjoy when I'm playing well, and playing with other people that are really good (but man, some of you guys are BEAST with your chosen mains). I'm sticking it out with Kratos until the end (of the beta, that is). I just really want to learn him inside and out, and not jump around to too many other characters. I'm kind of trying to save the rest so they'll be new to me come retail release.

I know what u mean, but in my case, people are going crazy with the spam attacks. Two Radecs, and all they did was the sniper and the sticky grenades. They are putting in a degradable block system, they should also put in a degradable AP system when spamming the same move, IMO. It's actually not too big a deal for me personally, but with multiples of the same characters like Sly and Radec, they begin to fuck u up bad.

I also played a super annoying Parappa who was such a little dick. He spent the whole THREE games running away and using the boombox. Other two dummies kept playing each other, and I was the only one going after him, but this little shit would just run away and try to boombox alone. He had zero interest in actually fighting me, and the best he'd do is grapple me. Kept getting hit by enemies, which would give him the opportunity to run away and boombox throughout the whole matches. I was unable to win because I spent most my time chasing this little bastard lol. One time I RPG'd him three times and saw huge chunks of his AP scatter around. Felt so great. He was never able to do his Super 3. I think one or two players caught on and was trying to stop him with me, but freaking butterfingers always managed to slip my hands.

Just to say again, Super 3's need to be longer for guys like Radec, Sly, and Sweet Tooth. I still think Super 1's are too viable
 

Jawmuncher

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Yes that is a good assumption to make, but apparently there was a podcast where someone from superbot said it'd be more than 2 characters so there's plenty of reason to hope for an unleaked character.

but that's NOT a promise and please don't hurt me if it ends up disappointing.

Dont worry about it

It wont hurt much
 
It's funny how it's kind of hard to "explain" the game yet when your playing everything just makes sense. This is really the only game where playing it is imperative.

One thing I love about this game so far and just from the beta is the characters. Characters that I may not necessarily am a fan of play so well.

Sweet tooth for example just has this unrelenting aura to him that just feels rewarding when you land a ->[].

I enjoy all the characters from how they play and especially their supers.

Radec's level 2 super is so satisfying hearing the gun rev up.
 

Figboy79

Aftershock LA
I know what u mean, but in my case, people are going crazy with the spam attacks. Two Radecs, and all they did was the sniper and the sticky grenades. They are putting in a degradable block system, they should also put in a degradable AP system when spamming the same move, IMO. It's actually not too big a deal for me personally, but with multiples of the same characters like Sly and Radec, they begin to fuck u up bad.

I also played a super annoying Parappa who was such a little dick. He spent the whole THREE games running away and using the boombox. Other two dummies kept playing each other, and I was the only one going after him, but this little shit would just run away and try to boombox alone. He had zero interest in actually fighting me, and the best he'd do is grapple me. Kept getting hit by enemies, which would give him the opportunity to run away and boombox throughout the whole matches. I was unable to win because I spent most my time chasing this little bastard lol. One time I RPG'd him three times and saw huge chunks of his AP scatter around. Felt so great. He was never able to do his Super 3. I think one or two players caught on and was trying to stop him with me, but freaking butterfingers always managed to slip my hands.

Just to say again, Super 3's need to be longer for guys like Radec, Sly, and Sweet Tooth. I still think Super 1's are too viable

Yeah, I'm totally all over that idea of an AP degradation system based on weapon spamming. Something like:

1st use: You get 100% of the AP you'd normally get.
2nd use in a row: You get 75-80% of the AP.
3rd use in a row: 55-65+

etc, etc. It would discourage you from spamming, and you'd be more inclined to try out different moves, and maybe learn some more effective combos.

The three Radecs did nothing but spam the sniper and the cloak grenade as well. Really obnoxious.

And in the match I played with a Radec, FP, and Sly, all they did was gang up on me, while the Radec was off in a corner, just destroying us. I'd try to get close, but lo and behold, the Sly or FP would pull me back down, and hey, what do you know, Radec's level 2 is ready, and he just fired and killed all three of us! AWESOME!!

Then, I think the game glitched, because, at the end of the match, he pulled off a Level 2 (that's the green arc laser, right?), then, as soon as we respawned, he fired off ANOTHER level 2 green arc laser, killing all three of us again. That was with, like, three seconds left on the clock. He didn't have a chance to build up more AP to execute again, so I think it had to have been a glitch. What really sucked about that one, is that if he hadn't pulled that off, we would have gone into Overtime, because I was tied with him in score until I died by that second level 2 of his.

EDIT 1: Oh, and yeah, I'd totally rather have Monica over Max, despite loving them both. I'm still playing Dark Cloud 2, as I never beat it. I'm playing it on my BC PS3. I'd like if they added the two Dark Clouds to the PS2 Classics already, though. It was great seeing Primal added, but I still own the disc of that one. Ghosthunter too. Lazarus could be a fun character, with some fun supers as well.

EDIT 2: Can we change the thread title to "Road to 20,000 Posts?" Lol. So, so close! I don't know if we'll make it before gamescom, though.
 
radec really sucks when using him on the hot shots golf level (the one with the fish at the bottom). all other levels i can do really well with him.

and i dont know why people complain about radec. he's not a good up close fighter. what are people supposed to do? not snipe and sticky bomb you even though that's what his success is built on?
 

Jawmuncher

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So out of the charcaters everyone has played has any noticed any unintentional moves?
I hate I always have to use SSBB as an example but a good idea would be how Snake when he's falling off a map, if you drop a c4 while falling and explode it you can get shot up and continue to do another recovery move.

The only thing I have read thus far was someone was trying to nail down the way to shoot Sweet Tooth's shotgun twice in quick succession.
 
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thepotatoman

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I would totally understand if they did spam degradation, but I feel in practice spam degradation doesn't really help with spamming all that much. Proper balance and the ability to exploit the predictability is the best way to stop spamming.
 
Yeah, I'm totally all over that idea of an AP degradation system based on weapon spamming. Something like:

1st use: You get 100% of the AP you'd normally get.
2nd use in a row: You get 75-80% of the AP.
3rd use in a row: 55-65+

etc, etc. It would discourage you from spamming, and you'd be more inclined to try out different moves, and maybe learn some more effective combos.

The three Radecs did nothing but spam the sniper and the cloak grenade as well. Really obnoxious.

And in the match I played with a Radec, FP, and Sly, all they did was gang up on me, while the Radec was off in a corner, just destroying us. I'd try to get close, but lo and behold, the Sly or FP would pull me back down, and hey, what do you know, Radec's level 2 is ready, and he just fired and killed all three of us! AWESOME!!

Then, I think the game glitched, because, at the end of the match, he pulled off a Level 2 (that's the green arc laser, right?), then, as soon as we respawned, he fired off ANOTHER level 2 green arc laser, killing all three of us again. That was with, like, three seconds left on the clock. He didn't have a chance to build up more AP to execute again, so I think it had to have been a glitch. What really sucked about that one, is that if he hadn't pulled that off, we would have gone into Overtime, because I was tied with him in score until I died by that second level 2 of his.

EDIT 1: Oh, and yeah, I'd totally rather have Monica over Max, despite loving them both. I'm still playing Dark Cloud 2, as I never beat it. I'm playing it on my BC PS3. I'd like if they added the two Dark Clouds to the PS2 Classics already, though. It was great seeing Primal added, but I still own the disc of that one. Ghosthunter too. Lazarus could be a fun character, with some fun supers as well.

EDIT 2: Can we change the thread title to "Road to 20,000 Posts?" Lol. So, so close! I don't know if we'll make it before gamescom, though.

Well having that drop off in AP after just one move would probably really change the game up. I dont mind the same move being spammed 2-3 times, but when that's all I see some players do is annoying. I dont know it seems hard to implement. Regardless, a good player will outplay and put an end to a spammer. Problem comes when u have to deal with 2+ of them, and when the other players dont do anything about it. Really, I dont think I have much against spamming, it's dealing with the morons who hold me back and assist the spammer that really pisses me off. I can usually deal with a spammer if not for the other players lol.

DUDEE How far are u in Dark Cloud 2?? It's easy in my top 5 list, haha. The atmosphere, music, scenery, gameplay, it's untouchably charming. I just get enveloped in that world whenever I think of that game, the way the towns are all so peaceful and how the other worlds are so full of life, culture, some are depressing, but they are all so wonderfully awe-inspiring. Such a simple but moving feeling I get just thinking of DC2. Never played DC1, I am dying for a sequel. Sony published that game, I dont know why we aren't seeing a sequel or HD Collection. Goddamn, I get depressed thinking about the game.
 

SSReborn

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So out of the charcaters everyone has played has any noticed any unintentional moves?
I hate I always have to use SSBB as an example but a good idea would be how Snake when he's falling off a map, if you drop a c4 while falling and explode it you can get shot up and continue to do another recovery move.

The only thing I have read thus far was someone was trying to nail down the way to shoot Sweet Tooth's shotgun twice in quick succession.

That was me yeah it can fire twice really fast if you shoot it right when you are landing. Another one is that he can use his fire breath for forward momentum if you fire breath then move forward and rinse and repeat you can use it to travel a bit. its better then the shoulder charge at times because you dont fall straight down after you do it; you can also do other moves after the fire breath.

Also I can't confirm this its something my friend tried and says works but you can control the length that Fat Princesses super Level 1 travels if you press R2 and leave it she will travel the full distance possible but if you press it again before it stretches out all the way you can shorten her travel distance and therefore make the move come out faster.
 

Jawmuncher

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That was me yeah it can fire twice really fast if you shoot it right when you are landing. Another one is that he can use his fire breath for forward momentum if you fire breath then move forward and rinse and repeat you can use it to travel a bit. its better then the shoulder charge at times because you dont fall straight down after you do it; you can also do other moves after the fire breath.

Also I can't confirm this its something my friend tried and says works but you can control the length that Fat Princesses super Level 1 travels if you press R2 and leave it she will travel the full distance possible but if you press it again before it stretches out all the way you can shorten her travel distance and therefore make the move come out faster.

Cool you found out how to do that.
Not to mention the other ones you brought up, in these sort of games those little things can sometimes change the entire way a character can be played.
But since this is on PS3 and patches will be prevalent, it'll be interesting to see stuff like this emerge and then probbaly get squashed.
 

Paul Gale

Member
I figure the Gamescom reveals will be them two and a third character that Paul is referring to, that I like to call "The Big Kahuna"
I can get as hyped as I want because I'll be happy just seeing Sackboy haha.
Something I would like to see outside of characters is the intro to the game or some sort of cool cinematic.

Whether or not for you personally will Gamescom be satisfying is one thing, but I know that a certain crowd will be. Aah who am I kidding...if you're not satisfied with who's shown at Gamescom, you're not giving SuperBot enough credit. Everyone should at the very least be "happy".
 

Paul Gale

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And by the way, no, it's not fun knowing this info and not sharing it/seeing people aching to know more. The friends that you've become to me during this journey makes me want to tell you all so badly...including whatever naysayers of me there are (because we're all in this together at the end of the day), but I can't for from a couple dozen people, suddenly hundreds, thousands, and then a few million would know in a matter of one weekend. I respect you all though and thanks for always keeping it entertaining.

However I plan to slowly unveil my new Xbox 360 exclusive is going to have a lot to stack up to...
 

Mr. Fix

Member
I still remember e3 this year.

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Good thing Raiden was so iconic!
 

Jawmuncher

Member
And by the way, no, it's not fun knowing this info and not sharing it/seeing people aching to know more. The friends that you've become to me during this journey makes me want to tell you all so badly...including whatever naysayers of me there are (because we're all in this together at the end of the day), but I can't for from a couple dozen people, suddenly hundreds, thousands, and then a few million would know in a matter of one weekend. I respect you all though and thanks for always keeping it entertaining.

However I plan to slowly unveil my new Xbox 360 exclusive is going to have a lot to stack up to...

Master Chief confirmed for PSA.
 

k_Reign

Member
And by the way, no, it's not fun knowing this info and not sharing it/seeing people aching to know more. The friends that you've become to me during this journey makes me want to tell you all so badly...including whatever naysayers of me there are (because we're all in this together at the end of the day), but I can't for from a couple dozen people, suddenly hundreds, thousands, and then a few million would know in a matter of one weekend. I respect you all though and thanks for always keeping it entertaining.

However I plan to slowly unveil my new Xbox 360 exclusive is going to have a lot to stack up to...

Don't worry too badly about it - you've been great at holding us over between reveals and events, hahah. I do think it's funny that you have to watch what you say or someone will be all, "HINT? Was that a HIIIIINT?" hahah. I'd hate to see how you posting on the community forums would turn out. That place is a nightmare for discussion...
 
Whether or not for you personally will Gamescom be satisfying is one thing, but I know that a certain crowd will be. Aah who am I kidding...if you're not satisfied with who's shown at Gamescom, you're not giving SuperBot enough credit. Everyone should at the very least be "happy".

Well one thing you don't have to worry about is me giving Superbot enough credit haha. Just the beta is a sick ton of fun. Are you playing it/what's your PSN??? haha
 
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thepotatoman

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I still remember e3 this year.

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Good thing Raiden was so iconic!

Oh man I totally forgot about that.

"Wouldn't it be cool if iconic guys like Nathan Drake, Cole, and Snake could be in the same game together? Well now they can in PSASBR!"

Later...

"Hey Raiden is like Snake."
 
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thepotatoman

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Whether or not for you personally will Gamescom be satisfying is one thing, but I know that a certain crowd will be. Aah who am I kidding...if you're not satisfied with who's shown at Gamescom, you're not giving SuperBot enough credit. Everyone should at the very least be "happy".

Well at this point personally, the only characters I want are Japanese ones. And I'm not talking about japanese made characters that take a lot of inspiration from western culture, like Metal Gear Solid and Resident Evil. Spike, Toro, and maybe Parappa are the only ones in the roster so far like that. I might not complain if its a character obviously everyone wants, but for me all I want is this.
 
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thepotatoman

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Well there was a mode in the beta code called customization or something like that.

Wait! What if Sackboy is fully customizable just like in his game. And I'm talking about exactly as customizable as he is in his game, with maybe a few less options. I speculated on this before, but that would probably fit with Paul Gale's hype comments, especially if it applies to more than just Sackboy.
 

SmithnCo

Member
Well there was a mode in the beta code called customization or something like that.

Wait! What if Sackboy is fully customizable just like in his game. And I'm talking about exactly as customizable as he is in his game, with maybe a few less options. I speculated on this before, but that would probably fit with Paul Gale's hype comments, especially if it applies to more than just Sackboy.

That would be great. Obviously they couldn't use all the costumes from the game but even with just a small assortment it would be fun.
 
Well there was a mode in the beta code called customization or something like that.

Wait! What if Sackboy is fully customizable just like in his game. And I'm talking about exactly as customizable as he is in his game, with maybe a few less options. I speculated on this before, but that would probably fit with Paul Gale's hype comments, especially if it applies to more than just Sackboy.

I do like customization
*foams at mouth*
HYPE
...
KAT
 

SmithnCo

Member
Imagine if the alt costumes for Sackboy were more like costume item packs, that you can mix and match. That would be really cool for this type of fighting game. I'd be okay with standard alts though, I'm sure they could use some crazy ones.
 
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thepotatoman

Unconfirmed Member
And it fits perfectly with website leak showing Sackboy as the next character, and its something absolutely no one would complain about. With any character someone would complain about it being a wasted slot, especially this late in the roster, but this? Who would complain about this?

And why would you "give credit" to Superbot for a character pick especially when its hard to gauge how hard licencing is for things like obvious choices like Crash, but this is a really cool feature that took some good work and planning to get figured out.

Everything fits.
 

SmithnCo

Member
This probably has been posted, but it's people playing the game talking about it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_Mo7_AETqIk#!

I don't get what's going on. I don't understand why you attack people in the first place. The random trivia seems annoying to me. >.> So are supers really the only way to kill others?

You attack people to gain AP. You use AP to do supers. Supers are the only way to kill.

It sounds weird watching others play it, but playing it yourself makes a big difference I think.
 

Mr. Fix

Member
This probably has been posted, but it's people playing the game talking about it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_Mo7_AETqIk#!

I don't get what's going on. I don't understand why you attack people in the first place. The random trivia seems annoying to me. >.> So are supers really the only way to kill others?

Supers are the only way to rack up points. Attacks build the super meter. It keeps everyone active during the match.

Hey! Snake could still be in. You gotta believe.

I've got an ounce of hope left.
 
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