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GitHub - ps5-linux/ps5-linux-loader: Linux payload implementing the HV exploit and a custom bootloader

Linux payload implementing the HV exploit and a custom bootloader - ps5-linux/ps5-linux-loader

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[Bojji]

As always, with CFW you get all the good stuff locked from you by Sony (like PS3 BC).

 

[Ebrietas]

Those killzone games still look better than most shooters today.

 

[Signalis]

Killzone 2 and 3 sure were something else. They looked(still do) amazing.

 

[Ryseer]

Killzone 2 and 3 sure were something else. They looked(still do) amazing.

GG had their feet to the fire for K2 no doubt that e3 CG trailer really fked them,but the result is a great looking game,the combat was slow but it felt like your character was grounded,unlike C*ck of Duty when it feels like your character is on something.

 

[Xaeroxcore666]

I´ll never understand why companies act like that. PS3 BC at least on certain games it´s something users has been asked for several years. Now community themselves proves PS3 can be emulated on the regular PS5, not even the Pro and at 4K. Stupid Sony, at least release Killzone and Resistance trilogy remastered for PS5, ain´t that hard....But of course they are obssesed with Killzone, TLoU and soon will be with that game of the ARROGANT bald girl boss upcoming.

 

[Killer8]

Now I need to rewatch that Digital Foundry clip of John Linneman's fake-macho-yet-still-cracking voice insisting that SONY, who have access to all the PS3 technical docs btw, wouldn't be able to do PS3 backwards compatibility on PS5. Muh SPUs!

 

[Fess]

I´ll never understand why companies act like that. PS3 BC at least on certain games it´s something users has been asked for several years. Now community themselves proves PS3 can be emulated on the regular PS5, not even the Pro and at 4K. Stupid Sony, at least release Killzone and Resistance trilogy remastered for PS5, ain´t that hard....But of course they are obssesed with Killzone, TLoU and soon will be with that game of the ARROGANT bald girl boss upcoming.

Sony would need to make their own emulator or let users install Linux and completely open it up with full file access.

 

[HerjansEagleFeeder]

Sony would need to make their own emulator or let users install Linux and completely open it up with full file access.

Isn't RPCS3 open source?

 

[Fess]

Isn't RPCS3 open source?

No idea but it doesn't matter, Sony ain't going to use an open-source garage dev emulator, it's more likely that they'll stomp all this if it would snowball and become popular.

 

[Bojji]

No idea but it doesn't matter, Sony ain't going to use an open-source garage dev emulator, it's more likely that they'll stomp all this if it would snowball and become popular.

They can't do shit to emulation

Sony Computer Entertainment America, Inc. v. Bleem, LLC - Wikisource, the free online library

en.wikisource.org

 

[The_Mike]

Sony would need to make their own emulator or let users install Linux and completely open it up with full file access.

People don't want BC.

When Xbox One got bc then the mahoeiry of playstation users said they didn't want old games only new, so no reason for Sony to waste time and money on something the majority doesn't care about.

 

[kevboard]

No idea but it doesn't matter, Sony ain't going to use an open-source garage dev emulator, it's more likely that they'll stomp all this if it would snowball and become popular.

they used an open source "garage dev" emulator for their PS1 mini

 

[Fess]

They can't do shit to emulation

Sony Computer Entertainment America, Inc. v. Bleem, LLC - Wikisource, the free online library

en.wikisource.org

Hasn't Nintendo ninjas been slicing up emulators?

 

[Fess]

People don't want BC.

When Xbox One got bc then the mahoeiry of playstation users said they didn't want old games only new, so no reason for Sony to waste time and money on something the majority doesn't care about.

That's just console warrior defense talk, nobody in their right mind would complain about having access to all their old games on one device.

 

[simpatico]

Are people really using the PS5 APU for things that Sony disapproves of? How dare you sir. But mostly, why not buy chips that don't need to be cracked? You'd save a lot of money and time.

 

[Bojji]

Hasn't Nintendo ninjas been slicing up emulators?

They can't win the case against them but they are using their power to make their lives harder.

Yuzu stopped development but there is other emulator working.

 

[Fess]

they used an open source "garage dev" emulator for their PS1 mini

Okay had no idea but opening up PS5 for emulation seems like a bigger deal, would have to control it and lock it down somehow or publishers would probably complain since some might want to sell a remaster.

 

[Cakeboxer]

That's just console warrior defense talk, nobody in their right mind would complain about having access to all their old games on one device.

Actually even Sony's Jim Ryan said something like "nobody wants to play ancient looking games"

 

[Fess]

Actually even Sony's Jim Ryan said something like "nobody wants to play ancient looking games"

Lol yes and that wasn't popular

 

[Bojji]

Actually even Sony's Jim Ryan said something like "nobody wants to play ancient looking games"

Both Sony and MS early last gen were "no one cares about old games".

But when MS developed emulator, they were all about this lol.

 

[Badlucktroll]

ps3 emulation had kind of lost its magic because MGS 4 HATH BEEN LIBERATED FROM ITS PS3 PRISON

 

[Bojji]

ps3 emulation had kind of lost its magic because MGS 4 HATH BEEN LIBERATED FROM ITS PS3 PRISON

There are still many games locked in PS3 prison.

 

[ReBurn]

Sony ain't going to use an open-source garage dev emulator

That's true. They're going to use the ones they created that are worse in pretty much every way than the open source garage ones. See PS1 and PS2 classics for reference.

 

[Bitstream]

Wish we were getting a Killzone game instead of this disney channel version of Horizon they're pushing out.

 

[kevboard]

Okay had no idea but opening up PS5 for emulation seems like a bigger deal, would have to control it and lock it down somehow or publishers would probably complain since some might want to sell a remaster.

this was never really an issue in previous gens.

Microsoft just made an Xbox emulator for the 360 for example. back then they were limited by their emulation tech, so not all games were compatible, and many had bugs.

and same with Sony and the PS1 on PS3, they just ran an emulator... so I don't see how they couldn't offer PS1 back compat and PS2 back compat (which was also partially emulated starting on PAL models of the PS3)

 

[noob smokes]

Thats dope



Also i miss socom & killzone shit was the last of the great gritty shooter era before everything turnt in to a fortnite frenzy

 

[Unknown?]

Man, we'd never have lost Linux on PS if hackers didn't use it to jailbreak PS3. PS2 and PS3 had Linux support officially, sad we don't have that anymore.

 

[The Fartist]

I fucking love Linux.

 

[Bojji]

Man, we'd never have lost Linux on PS if hackers didn't use it to jailbreak PS3. PS2 and PS3 had Linux support officially, sad we don't have that anymore.

It was not about hacker but about Sony not fixing it properly (with other os option still in), instead they panicked and removed it entirely.

Other OS was a thing for tariffs and tax purposes I think?

 

[willothedog]

Man, we'd never have lost Linux on PS if hackers didn't use it to jailbreak PS3. PS2 and PS3 had Linux support officially, sad we don't have that anymore.

eh, it was Sony who removed otheros. They even settled (lost) a court case about it. The jailbreak came after they removed it.

 

[Wolzard]

It should be running at around 30-40 fps, which is about what the Ryzen 3600 does in RPCS3. Interestingly, Killzone 3 is lighter than Killzone 2.

Isn't RPCS3 open source?

If they use RPCS3, they're going to get themselves into trouble. The emulator uses the GPLv3 license, which is a restrictive license, all code that interacts with it needs to be open source, something Sony wouldn't want.

 

[Simpdimples]

our console is hacked?... better hit our paying customers with more drm.

 

[kevboard]

Man, we'd never have lost Linux on PS if hackers didn't use it to jailbreak PS3. PS2 and PS3 had Linux support officially, sad we don't have that anymore.

you literally have it backwards. the PS3 was completely unmodded until they removed Linux support. after removing linux support the modding community sped up their efforts and did basically instantly jailbreak it.

Sony removing Linux support was directly responsible for the PS3 being cracked

 

[Bojji]

you literally have it backwards. the PS3 was completely unmodded until they removed Linux support. after removing linux support the modding community sped up their efforts and did basically instantly jailbreak it.

Sony removing Linux support was directly responsible for the PS3 being cracked

I think GeoHot retrieved keys (that weren't random but should be) using linux. That's why they removed it - but hackers punished them for it.

 

[spons]

Now I need to rewatch that Digital Foundry clip of John Linneman's fake-macho-yet-still-cracking voice insisting that SONY, who have access to all the PS3 technical docs btw, wouldn't be able to do PS3 backwards compatibility on PS5. Muh SPUs!

That implies they have 100% documentation. That's rarely the case in software engineering because it assumes people are doing their work properly.

 

[fersnake]

No idea but it doesn't matter, Sony ain't going to use an open-source garage dev emulator, it's more likely that they'll stomp all this if it would snowball and become popular.

pretty sure the playstation mini uses an emulator xD

 

[polybius80]

interesting and very good news, but not really a surprise PS3 can be emulated in a PS5, we have seen it running in steamdeck and people already played in bc250 boards(a cut down recycled ps5 for crypto mining) in fact I think its way more preferable to keep a ps5 original and buy a bc250 as a linux gaming machine(despite some bugs that need to be fixed in some unity games) I have 5 of these boards if you give a decent DIY cooling you have a very capable little machine that is cheaper than a ps5, in a bc 250 you can even play switch emulator and even ps4, so a PS5 with linux can do it even better

 

[Fess]

I don't see how they couldn't offer PS1 back compat and PS2 back compat (which was also partially emulated starting on PAL models of the PS3)

I realize I haven't checked, so stupid question perhaps, but isn't PS1,PS2 emulation already there?? I thought PS3 was the only console they skipped for BC, because of the Cell complexity.

 

[Bojji]

I realize I haven't checked, so stupid question perhaps, but isn't PS1,PS2 emulation already there?? I thought PS3 was the only console they skipped for BC, because of the Cell complexity.

PS3 had full software emulator of PS2 that worked with some games - all PSN releases of PS2 games were using it (over 300 games).

 

[Fess]

PS3 had full software emulator of PS2 that worked with some games - all PSN releases of PS2 games were using it (over 300 games).

Oh I was talking about PS1/2 emulation on PS5, you were talking about PS1/2 emulation on PS3?

I had a PS3 Phat, it could run everything, or almost everything. Unfortunately I had lots of NTSC games on PS1, and PAL PS3 couldn't run those. Stupid region lock!

 

[The_Mike]

That's just console warrior defense talk, nobody in their right mind would complain about having access to all their old games on one device.

I'm aware of that, but the loud minority of console warriors seems to be the loudest and are deafening for people who likely want it, and Sony probably just don't see the value in it.

Also probably too much effort vs what they can bank on it in their opinion, because I'm sure they would do it if they believed it was profitable.

The rpcs3 team has shown that it's possible despite the bad architecture

 

[Fess]

I'm aware of that, but the loud minority of console warriors seems to be the loudest and are deafening for people who likely want it, and Sony probably just don't see the value in it.

Also probably too much effort vs what they can bank on it in their opinion, because I'm sure they would do it if they believed it was profitable.

The rpcs3 team has shown that it's possible despite the bad architecture

Yeah I know it's very annoying and push out false data to the corporations.

 

[kevboard]

I realize I haven't checked, so stupid question perhaps, but isn't PS1,PS2 emulation already there?? I thought PS3 was the only console they skipped for BC, because of the Cell complexity.

they have an emulator on PS4/5 but you can't use your own discs, only rebuy the games digitally.

PS3 had full back compat with PS1 and PS2, later revisions dropped PS2 support and removed the PS2 hardware inside the PS3.

the PAL launch model already was missing the Emotion Engine, so PS2 games were partially emulated on PAL consoles.

PS1 emulation was kept in every PS3 revision.

dropping PS2 back compat on later PS3 revisions was also a questionable move, because we know that more than 1300 games work without issue on their emulator out of the box, as we know due to the ability to use that Emulator on modded consoles for games not available als download versions.

starting with the PS4, sony dropped backwards compatibility entirely. now there's zero back compat for anything before PS4 anymore.

the PS4/5 emulator for PS2 games runs around 900 games without issue or only minor visual bugs btw., which was also discovered after softmodded PS4s started to be a thing.

 

[YCoCg]

they used an open source "garage dev" emulator for their PS1 mini

That was a device they pushed out for as cheap as they could, it's just a basic arm device with a launcher using PSX ReARMED as the emulator. Despite them having a better emulator already made.

 

[Bojji]

Oh I was talking about PS1/2 emulation on PS5, you were talking about PS1/2 emulation on PS3?

I had a PS3 Phat, it could run everything, or almost everything. Unfortunately I had lots of NTSC games on PS1, and PAL PS3 couldn't run those. Stupid region lock!

Yeah I was talking about PS3.

Like kevboard said, they have PS1/PS2 emulators since PS4, but they don't allow anyone to use their discs or even PS3 PSN versions (of PS2 games, recently they allowed some PS3 licenses for PS1 games to work).

They only package those games for PSN sales, same will be true with PS3 games if PS6 has emulator.

 

[Gafapastismo1982]

I've been with PlayStation since the beginning, and I'll be honest: I still play on my PS3 regularly. In fact, I use it more often than my PS4 these days. My current setup is a cluttered mess of consoles and cables simply because I refuse to let go of my PS3 library.

Seeing the community achieve 4K results through Linux only highlights what we're missing. I would give anything for official support—being able to play these classics on PS5 with native trophy support and my existing save files would be the ultimate quality-of-life improvement.

It's a shame that, while the hardware is clearly more than capable of handling it, we're forced to keep multiple devices hooked up or rely on "DIY" scene solutions to enjoy games we already own. For those of us who value our legacy libraries, a "next-gen" console will always feel somewhat incomplete without true, local hardware BC.

 

[Esppiral]

No idea but it doesn't matter, Sony ain't going to use an open-source garage dev emulator, it's more likely that they'll stomp all this if it would snowball and become popular.

They used one of those for their playstation mini

 

[Axelon]

Side topic kinda.

I miss old Sony with their openess pre-hacked. PS3 was what the Xbox One wanted to be.

An all in one system at your TV that could dual boot PS OS/Linux. It had a good blu-ray player. It had card slots for viewing pictures on the TV and managing them. It had a web browser where you could download stuff and a built in media player for that too. It could've been your main device for nearly everything. That vision was pretty cool and sadly is gone. I actually used a lot of those features on the PS3 (Although never Linux).

Steam Frame will kinda do that to an extent I suppose. With accessories you can get it nearly there (card readers, bluray players etc). Streaming services will have to get on board though.

 

[Tobimacoss]

So PS5 was strong enough to run PS3 emulation? This is kinda embarrassing for Sony.