Marathon gamers desperate for content. So even big patch day fizzled out after one day. It spiked +16% on patch day, then immediately dropped -8% the next day. Then on Fri-Sun that week it kept sliding down. Then the usual big drop on Monday. If there was no patch at all the ballpark Monday week over week drop yesterday was -15% anyway. Historically it's about -20% since launch. So it can be argued, the patch helped 5% or about 1,000 CCU. That's it. They waited for it, tried it and almost everyone bailed already. Gamers bailed so much Sunday hit a new CCU low, until yesterday hit another record low.
Sony will just hit bungie with another deadly wave of layoffs and put game on zombie mode- aka no meaningful updates anymore, only run by skeleton crew, the official announcement is coming, if not april then may 4 sure coz by then playerbase will be vanished with the exception of super tiny niche of most hc ppl
"Git gud" works well in souls games coz they are for the most part singleplayer where if u play game long enough(including reading/watching guides) u simply get better and better to a point u can if not steamroll the game then at least beat it with some effort.
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Plague Doctor 's point still stands. Putting it on PS+ is quasi-F2P. It's not going to drive new subscribers so they'd need their microtransactions shop to be on lock to make any money from being on PS+. Even the most ardent of the game's defenders admit the microtransactions are… meh at best.
I don't believe higher skill players have any influence at Bungie right now. I'd bet my life that Season 2 launches with systems designed to improve the low skill player experience.
Sony will just hit bungie with another deadly wave of layoffs and put game on zombie mode- aka no meaningful updates anymore, only run by skeleton crew, the official announcement is coming, if not april then may 4 sure coz by then playerbase will be vanished with the exception of super tiny niche of most hc ppl
No way sony is patient enough to wait till 21st june, marathon gonna lose 80% of playerbase by 2 months after launch mark aka 6th may, by 3 months aka 6th june it will likely lose 85% which wouldnt be great if it had 10x sales/engangement numbers even, not to mention now
Git Gud only works if a weak gamer is willing to put in lots of time to improve their skills and game knowledge. Not everyone can do that.
Of course it's not dry yet. The CCU count continues to bleed out.
Exactly, in pve scenario, be it singleplayer campaign or coop mode the barier to be "gut" is stagnat and relatively moderate(yes, even in relatively hard games/genres), in pvp tho not only its constantly climbing but is way higher from the start xD
Games like Marathon take it to another level too. It's not just about git gud game skills, but good luck if enemy players have stacked loot equipped too. Makes the divide even larger.Exactly, in pve scenario, be it singleplayer campaign or coop mode the barier to be "gut" is stagnat and relatively moderate(yes, even in relatively hard games/genres), in pvp tho not only its constantly climbing but is way higher from the start xD
In marathon its not even "git gut" but "git better than most of other hc veterans" which is obviously way more demanding ask vs just "git gut"
You know I think you make a lot of solid points and I actually agree that live service, improving a game for years until it evolves into soemthing else, the idea inherently is incredible and in many ways better than a one and done single-player.
If it was so "obvious" of a failure, we'd see disarray at Bungie.
How many concurrent users would it need to have to be a big failure for you?
Looks like the patch last week didn't retain a lot of players.
I didn't realize you had replied already.
I'm interested in Marathon and the Extraction genre because it's canvas is so much more vast than something like Marvel Tokon or Deadlock.
When Sony decides it's a failure? The next few seasons will be fun to follow along.
Discounting after only 6-7 weeks is pretty sad
This is the biggest issue I've come across the last 2-3 weeks or so. Shortly after launch (obviously) the skill levels amongst players seemed even enough, but the last few times I've played I'm getting DESTROYED non-stop by other players. I'm not at the point in life where I can play a game 5 days a week 3+ hours a day to keep up with the hardcore players.
Even when a nfl team is in the shitter coaches will be vague and say they aren't in bad shape and will talk as if everything is fine, it's nothing uncommon.
I trust Tassi.
I agree that more fun lobbies are mixes of player types. But if that isnt working I dont mind SBMM. I just dont like if it bogs down the lobby searching for gamers every match so granular you cant even stay in the same lobby to play with the same people again. Those old COD lobbies where intermission is less than 60 seconds were amazing. It's so short, you dont even have time to check your stats or adjust loadouts as you get whisked into the game. Thats how I like it.
