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[kpopSuperstar]

They have been adding and expanding so much to the Fortnite platform that the expenses must have gone through the roof. And now it comes back to hurt the game.

What usually got you 1000 v-bucks, will now get you 800.

And if I read it correctly, the battle pass is now 800 bucks, but they removed all extra possible v-bucks, so you can only earn back 800, not 1500 as before.

 

[Sintoid]

Singing into myself:"I don't care a fucking shit lalalala"

 

[Cyberpunkd]

Makes sense - all the stupid shit collabs which are the only reason a lot of people are playing must cost a lot.

 

[Gonzito]

 

[neo raider]

And if I read it correctly, the battle pass is now 800 bucks, but they removed all extra possible v-bucks, so you can only earn back 800, not 1500 as before.

wow so now u cant even buy item shop stuff?

havent touched the game in years and i remember them killing save the world vbucks which was greedy as hell

i used to have a creator code and u can tell how well the game is doing if randoms are using your code

 

[nkill20]

 

[Filben]

Can't stand loosing 10% of several annual billion dollars. Gotta rake back this tremendous loss before going broke. Totally understandable. /s

 

[RoboFu]

Got to make up for all those dumb lawsuits

 

[kpopSuperstar]

Makes sense - all the stupid shit collabs which are the only reason a lot of people are playing must cost a lot.

And Lego Fortnite, custom modes and games, Delulu, and Blitz and all the stuff they are trying to do. They want Fortnite to be a massive platform, and at this point it costs so much to run all this that earning billions each year still ain't enough.

 

[Sohurmk833]

Billions in profit every year just aren't enough.

 

[pudel]

Enjoy yr digital slot machines, kids!

 

[winjer]

Greed is one hell of a drug.

 

[kpopSuperstar]

 

[kikkis]

I thought timmy having circumvented app store monopolies with his own store would have prevented this and then some

 

[Revolutionary]

Also Save the World (the original Fortnite) is going F2P soon



Founders are currently holding onto their butts because we're hoping they don't remove the ability to earn Vbucks in STW

 

[Danny22]

Making existing stuff expensive is usually a sign that growth has plateaued just like subscription services. But the game is coming back to play store last I heard.

But yeah future growth is roblox, not fortnite.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

And Lego Fortnite, custom modes and games, Delulu, and Blitz and all the stuff they are trying to do. They want Fortnite to be a massive platform, and at this point it costs so much to run all this that earning billions each year still ain't enough.

Ah, the beauty of a start-up model. Wait, it's not a start-up...

 

[MMaRsu]

They have been adding and expanding so much to the Fortnite platform that the expenses must have gone through the roof. And now it comes back to hurt the game

Holdup you actually believe this crap???

THEY JUST WANT MORE MUNNEH

 

[Cyberpunkd]

Making existing stuff expensive is usually a sign that growth has plateaued just like subscription services.

Not always, it's also a sign that they want to up the profitability curve. For example:

You make 1mln with 10 people
You make 10mln with 100 people

You are scaling linearly, not increasing productivity.

 

[ozz ex machina]

Also Save the World (the original Fortnite) is going F2P soon



Founders are currently holding onto their butts because we're hoping they don't remove the ability to earn Vbucks in STW

It really took me a long time to work out what the fuck you were on about. Then I remembered the origin of fortnite was that base builder defence game which was more of a tech demo for ue4.

Insane how lucky they got with fortnite.

 

[An Corp]

But yeah future growth is roblox, not fortnite.

 

[Danny22]

BCG: Live-service titles like Fortnite have peaked, but Roblox is still growing

Company notes that in the face of this competition, Epic is putting greater focus on its game's creator economy

www.gamesindustry.biz

 

[StereoVsn]

I totally get it, Tim Epic, those lawsuits are expensive!

 

[Heimdall_Xtreme]

I've never played that shitty game... And I'd definitely never spend money on that crap.

 

[Rocco Schiavone]

Stopped playing this game years ago.

 

[dragonyeuw]

"Market conditions"

 

[MiguelItUp]

They have been adding and expanding so much to the Fortnite platform that the expenses must have gone through the roof. And now it comes back to hurt the game.

You're giving them way too much credit. They're asking for more just because. There's no way they "need" to with their income.

 

[diffusionx]

A couple years ago Tim Epic made major layoffs and restructured the company in part because of the insane amount of money they were spending on Fortnite and pivoting it to being a platform.

Guess that didn't work out as well as he was hoping...

 

[PeteBull]

Good, its begining of an end, obviously gonna take few more years but i see the hope now
Think of it like of first crack in enourmously sturdy full plate armor =P

 

[Signalis]

Never played Fortnite ever, and why people would spend money on whatever-bucks these games have, has never made sense to me.

 

[Agave]

Greed is one hell of a drug.

Typically yes, but the creator of the game actually uses his money to buy plots of land to protect them and preserve the natural habitat

So it's not entirely a black and white world

 

[MMaRsu]

Typically yes, but the creator of the game actually uses his money to buy plots of land to protect them and preserve the natural habitat

So it's not entirely a black and white world

Tim Sweeney is a lying hypocritical prick

 

[pudel]

I totally get it, Tim Epic, those lawsuits are expensive!

The lawsuits are not bad. Its "anti walled garden"...so pro consumer, right?

 

[diffusionx]

BCG: Live-service titles like Fortnite have peaked, but Roblox is still growing

Company notes that in the face of this competition, Epic is putting greater focus on its game's creator economy

www.gamesindustry.biz

Here's the reality that people don't talk about enough... Fortnite came out in 2017-2018 tiime frame. The people who started playing the game as tweens or teenagers are now in college or entering adulthood. Are they playing Fortnite still? Some are, but probably not as much as they did in high school. Many have moved on. This is just a built-in reality of this type of entertainment, it's transitory. People assumed that because boomer entertainment (Star Wars, Rolling Stones, etc.) was popular for 50 years all this stuff is permanent, but it's not.

 

[MMaRsu]

The lawsuits are not bad. Its "anti walled garden"...so pro consumer, right?

Yeah except his own store is a walled fucking garden locking exclusives behind his shit store

He's a douche and cares not for consumers

 

[Agave]

Tim Sweeney is a lying hypocritical prick

What

 

[spookyfish]

Can't stand loosing 10% of several annual billion dollars. Gotta rake back this tremendous loss before going broke. Totally understandable. /s

I miss when companies were content with making money, and didn't have to make ALL the money.

 

[pudel]

Yeah except his own store is a walled fucking garden locking exclusives behind his shit store

He's a douche and cares not for consumers

Good point. So he wants freedom for his own store, but than walling himself up as well. Its a bit contradicting, yep. But my point stands, the lawsuits themselves are not bad imho.

 

[Danny22]

Typically yes, but the creator of the game actually uses his money to buy plots of land to protect them and preserve the natural habitat

So it's not entirely a black and white world

Sweeney used his massive amount of money and built in fanbase of Fortnite to sue Apple and Google, he didn't leave years of growth for a measly 10-20 percent extra revenue. Internet can hate him all they want, the man did something that all of the internet combined couldn't and wouldn't be able to do, suing the biggest companies of the world all over the planet to get them to open up their locked in hardware. We know mobile (android and IOS) isn't going anywhere and winning the cases will have an effect on software (and apples and googles ability to control it) for decades.

Here's the reality that people don't talk about enough... Fortnite came out in 2017-2018 tiime frame. The people who started playing the game as tweens or teenagers are now in college or entering adulthood. Are they playing Fortnite still? Some are, but probably not as much as they did in high school. Many have moved on. This is just a built-in reality of this type of entertainment, it's transitory. People assumed that because boomer entertainment (Star Wars, Rolling Stones, etc.) was popular for 50 years all this stuff is permanent, but it's not.

Roblox is different. It's like a Tiktok of gaming made by user created content. As its users keep growing in age, they can simply move on to games INSIDE roblox that age with them. Roblox still has a long way to go (and no doubt upscaling simple graphics into photorealistic ones will help expand its reach without increasing the hardware requirements) but its like a platform of gaming that goes everywhere. And as it becomes easier to create games, I don't doubt Roblox could be everywhere one day, the potential is nearly unlimited.

 

[Melfice7]

only made 3 billion in profit this year instead of 3.2? cant have that!

 

[diffusionx]

Roblox is different. It's like a Tiktok of gaming made by user created content. As its users keep growing in age, they can simply move on to games INSIDE roblox that age with them. Roblox still has a long way to go (and no doubt upscaling simple graphics into photorealistic ones will help expand its reach without increasing the hardware requirements) but its like a platform of gaming that goes everywhere. And as it becomes easier to create games, I don't doubt Roblox could be everywhere one day, the potential is nearly unlimited.

The trick is to keep roping in new generations of kids too, something Disney and Nintendo figured out.

So yea if Roblox can do it they have a long life ahead of them. I know Fortnite has tried to do it, but they seem to have failed becasue young kids care more about Roblox.

 

[BigLee74]

Fortnite killed Unreal Tournament stone dead, and for that reason alone I feel nothing but contempt for the game and its players.

 

[Agave]

Sweeney used his massive amount of money and built in fanbase of Fortnite to sue Apple and Google, he didn't leave years of growth for a measly 10-20 percent extra revenue. Internet can hate him all they want, the man did something that all of the internet combined couldn't and wouldn't be able to do, suing the biggest companies of the world all over the planet to get them to open up their locked in hardware. We know mobile (android and IOS) isn't going anywhere and winning the cases will have an effect on software (and apples and googles ability to control it) for decades.


Roblox is different. It's like a Tiktok of gaming made by user created content. As its users keep growing in age, they can simply move on to games INSIDE roblox that age with them. Roblox still has a long way to go (and no doubt upscaling simple graphics into photorealistic ones will help expand its reach without increasing the hardware requirements) but its like a platform of gaming that goes everywhere. And as it becomes easier to create games, I don't doubt Roblox could be everywhere one day, the potential is nearly unlimited.

I have no idea whose side you're on, but I agree with you

(Granted I'm on no side either, I just like to bring up that fun fact of him buying land to prevent its destruction)

 

[Braag]

Gotta fund those free games somehow

 

[adamsapple]

On the flip side, the original "Save the world" mode that predated the Battle Royale, is also going free to play.

 

[Zacfoldor]

 

[StereoVsn]

Good point. So he wants freedom for his own store, but than walling himself up as well. Its a bit contradicting, yep. But my point stands, the lawsuits themselves are not bad imho.

Yes, look at all the lower prices the lawsuits and store changes brought gamers! Oh wait…

 

[MiguelItUp]

On the flip side, the original "Save the world" mode that predated the Battle Royale, is also going free to play.

While this feels like a "nice gesture" I can't help but feel like they look at games like Helldivers 2 wondering how they could do something similar. So this is just that. While free, I wonder if they're going to restructure the monetization.

 

[pudel]

Yes, look at all the lower prices the lawsuits and store changes brought gamers! Oh wait…

Tbh, I have no clue about game pricing on apple/google devices. But yeah, Sweeney just wants to get rid off the 30% cut and than make everything exclusive to himself. That was always his goal...and it backfired heavily on windows, because there was always a way better store and consumers straight up refused him.

 

[StereoVsn]

Tbh, I have no clue about game pricing on apple/google devices. But yeah, Sweeney just wants to get rid off the 30% cut and than make everything exclusive to himself. That was always his goal...and it backfired heavily on windows, because there was always a way better store and consumers straight up refused him.

I mean he got his way with Google and Apple.. and immediately raised prices on Fortnite MTX as can be seen in this thread. Freedom!!!