Shogmaster
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If they give you one that is upgradable, add about $400 to MSRP.
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Asha Sharma: Next Xbox Project Name: "Helix" - Will 'lead in performance and play your Xbox and PC games'
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DeepEnigma
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Seems early to tease it if it is not launching this year.
Also you'd think launching something more powerful with GTA6 coming out would sell some of these things and sell the Xbox copy of the game (from the Xbox store) since the pc release not happening day/date with console.
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I figure announce at 25th anniversary events in November 2026 and launch in Nov 2027. They announced scorpio about 18 months ahead of launch so not beyond possibility (E3 2016 and launch November 2017).
MayaXG
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If you want to play GTA on PC first, you'll need to buy a Helix device and it will probably be the only 60 fps version for a while.
I'll be waiting on the Lenovo Legion X and will buy a Razer Raikiri for it. Not interested in whatever hardware and trash quality controllers Microsoft comes up with.
I'll be waiting on the Lenovo Legion X and will buy a Razer Raikiri for it. Not interested in whatever hardware and trash quality controllers Microsoft comes up with.
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Steve Holt
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I had my money on Project Xslop
MisterXDTV
Member
They are forced to announce it now...
Series consoles are dead and nothing can be done to bring them back to life..
With this announcement they just admitted openly what any sane person already knew....
They are leaving the console market and pivoting to PC...
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S0ULZB0URNE
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Prob comes out after 1 year console exclusivity expires in November 2027? So would be available on Helix and regular PC at same time?
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Shogmaster
Sloppy seconds
This will benefit PC gamers most IMO. They might actually make headway on Shader comp situation FFS lol. Magnus doesn't have like 16 core CPU to brute force through shader comp.
DeepEnigma
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This won't be coming until Nov '27 at the earliest. That's about the same time the PC version of GTA6 will be out.
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nial
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It is when it's a handheld console.
salva
Member
Yeah, I'm keen to see how this is all going to be integrated and work. Sounds like it's essentially just a new Xbox "app" in Windows. Which I'd assume any PC can also use and you don't necessarily need the new Xbox hardware. The backward compatibility is probably something that would be locked to the Helix hardware.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Everyone has their own preferences and needs, but if it's what it seems, we would be in a situation where each of the console manufacturers (Xbox, PS and NINTENDO) would offer 3 different and distinct console or product proposals aimed at users with different priorities and needs.
Clintizzle
Lord of Edge.
Release With GTA VI bundled.
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Prodyhig
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You're not going to move a traditional PC gamer to a platform that's not only expensive but also locked into a system with limited hardware upgrade options.
The only possible way would be to subsidize the price, something I doubt Microsoft can do for two reasons:
- Third-party stores (Steam/EPIC) would take the lion's share of royalty revenue.
- Free online access (it's a PC game, after all).
- The dramatic rise in hardware costs.
The only possible way would be to subsidize the price, something I doubt Microsoft can do for two reasons:
- Third-party stores (Steam/EPIC) would take the lion's share of royalty revenue.
- Free online access (it's a PC game, after all).
- The dramatic rise in hardware costs.
Shogmaster
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Are you talking about the great prediction made in January by Nostrodrunkus?
Steve Holt
Member
They can't have Jason Ronald on this one after the Series S farce right?
I trust him, but it's nice to have a real confirmation coming from the brand itself
Hollowpoint5557
A Fucking Idiot
I'll buy 3. Looking forward to it actually.
Unknown?
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Ftfy
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PropellerEar
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Position in Xbox marketing confirmed?
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
There is literally nothing they can or will do to make this an exciting proposition for me, other than the inevitable drama.
The ship has sailed.
The ship has sailed.
FrankCaron
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memoryman3
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Absolutely not true. The Xbox Helix would just run the unmodified Series version until the "PC" SKU releases on the MS Store/Steam/Epic/Rockstar Store.
I expect that most of this Xbox's features will be coming to all Windows devices, including the Lenovo devices.
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VolticArchangel
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Magnus is the codename for the entire soc, not just the npu.
There will be different models of the APU, like high end (AT4) for the Xbox Home Console (Project Helix) and 2 others for MS devices, one of them being for a cut down variant for handhelds.
Xbox will license these soc's to different third party vendors like Asus, Lenovo, MSI, Razer etc., with an OS mandate (custom Windows 12 with an Xbox dashboard shell), to make their own Xbox variants.
If I was Microsoft since they can afford to be petty since Sony isn't doing PC ports no Call of duty, Halo, Gears, Forza, Doom, Elder Scrolls, Fable etc until ports come back lol. Seriously they giving Sony all this shit and Sony like here take Helldivers and shut the fuck up lmao. Microsoft needs to say fuck PlayStation and Nintendo and drop some nuts since both of them giving Microsoft crumbs if that.
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RickMasters
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I believe so. I think we will see console, hybrid console/PC that is semi upgradable and possibly a more powerful version of the SOC intended for Xbox owners who want to build a full-on PC that can play their entire back log.
Well that's my hope anyway.
Magnus has commendable specs, the ps6 not so much. They went as conservative as possible with the console in terms of cost savings a 160bit bus,a 2.5x compute bump and 43% increase in bandwidth , same number of CPU cores as the ps5 and mobile ones albeit obviously newer architecture... The ps5 was a much more impressive machine in terms of specs and they actually went ahead of the game with their ssd and io system. The ps6 is just very safe and conservative and we all have to hope that the rt bump and ml/ai acceleration will compensate heavily to make it relatively pleasing in terms of visuals.
From what I can see this will be a ps5 pro+ more than a normal gen bump and I fear the best we will see will be ps5 games with path tracing turned on or ps5 games with 4k* 120hz modes. Now before I get the normal pummeling when you question the specs, yes I realize hardware advancements have slowed down and development budgets etc but even so objectively speaking the ps6 is a very conservative upgrade and rather unimpressive. Yes with enough rationalization and enough deliberation about constraints one can justify it or anything really but ilI be honest I do wish the specs were better. I was already disappointed with the underwhelming output this gen especially with Sonys first party and with the ps6 I'm pretty much expecting ps5 pathtracing and 120hz modes especially with the portable in the picture which will serve as the very low spec baseline.
That being said dear Lord do I wish to be proven wrong though. Looking back to what the ps3 devs pulled with 512mb of split ram and a neutered 7800 gt and hell even the ps5 with its paltry jaguar I can only hope we get surprised one last time and the hardware might have some surprises especially through rt and ai workload breakthroughs to surprise us.
Prodyhig
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DeepEnigma
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demigod
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It's a PC with xbox BC.
Looks like the xbox onry console is dead.
They will order 10m Magnus chips for the xbox pc/oem/handheld/laptops.
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Looks like the xbox onry console is dead.
They will order 10m Magnus chips for the xbox pc/oem/handheld/laptops.
Thoughts K KeplerL2
HeisenbergFX4
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SneakersSO
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