demigod
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My man, the question is will you be buying a Playstation "now", not will you be buying a Playstation 6, a hardware that's not even out yet.
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[Bloomberg] Sony Pulls Back From PlayStation Games on PC (Ghost of Yotei port and other internally developerd games scrapped)
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Topher
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One would think
ByWatterson
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PCs are not going to get more affordable and the components are not produced at true scale - not the tens of millions like console components.
I think Sony is betting the value provided by true exclusives makes them more money than a slower-growth PC market of the future can.
I think Sony is betting the value provided by true exclusives makes them more money than a slower-growth PC market of the future can.
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jshackles
Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
Fine by me. I've only really had a very passing interesting in Yotei despite enjoying Tsushima. The game's never been discounted except once it was $20 off and their stock lasted about 5 minutes at most. It's not a game I'm interested in paying $70 for, and barely interested in paying $50 for. I was more or less waiting for it to come to PC. No big deal if it doesn't, I'll pick it up in a couple of years for $20, maybe... Saros I have zero interest in. If Wolverine is like Spider-Man, count me out.
Their 1st party output the last few years has been dreadful. God of War, Horizon, Spider-Man, Gran Turismo, The Last of Us - none of these games appealed to me. Uncharted 4 feels like the last good "single player experience" of theirs that really resonated with me, and it's coming up on its 10-year anniversary. Astro Bot was fun and a technical showcase, but ultimately a bit forgettable. The last two Ratchet and Clank games were good, but not something I would specifically buy a console for. As I mentioned, I enjoyed Tsushima but found it was far too drawn out.
Their 1st party output the last few years has been dreadful. God of War, Horizon, Spider-Man, Gran Turismo, The Last of Us - none of these games appealed to me. Uncharted 4 feels like the last good "single player experience" of theirs that really resonated with me, and it's coming up on its 10-year anniversary. Astro Bot was fun and a technical showcase, but ultimately a bit forgettable. The last two Ratchet and Clank games were good, but not something I would specifically buy a console for. As I mentioned, I enjoyed Tsushima but found it was far too drawn out.
Bernardougf
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Ftfy
Revolutionary
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Sony's singleplayer output has slowed down so much that this feels like a nothingburger for me. Oh no, I won't get Ugly Protagonist game #48419 several years after it was released on PS5, what ever will I do? 
Critical Hit
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It doesn't. The more realistic a game tries to be, the easier it is for suspension of disbelief to break. The Ghost of games go for a grounded, realistic feel (though maybe closer to the end it starts to feel more like Assassin's Creed action, idk), so in that context a male warrior is just more believable. Not everyone shares your view that if a game isn't a simulator, then anything on screen is ok.
Topher
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Pretty much concur with your assessment for this gen. I think Sony has spread themselves too thin. Pretty obvious to me with their PC push, Gaas push........something has to give and it has been the games from their first party studios. Lesser in quantity and quality. And I'd say this is reflected in the reception a lot of these games have had from the PC community. So if this move helps Sony get back on track with their first party then I'm all for it.
HeisenbergFX4
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I dont blame anyone for not trusting everything they hear
Bernardougf
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If nothing of value was lost.. what are you WAITING for exactly?
ByWatterson
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Sony's singleplayer output has slowed down so much that this feels like a nothingburger for me. Oh no, I won't get Ugly Protagonist game #48419 several years after it was released on PS5, what ever will I do?
This gen alone:
Demon's Souls Remake
Miles Morales
Returnal
Ratchet and Clank Rift Apart
Horizon Forbidden West
God of War Ragnarok
Ghost of Yotei
Astro Bot
Gran Turismo 7
Spider-Man 2
And more coming, Saros, Wolverine, etc. These are all high-quality. Not even having them available is lame, unless PS5 is a poor option for third-party games. And it isn't. Very capable machine.
It's weird to be willing to spend $1500 on a graphics card but not $500 on a console.
Zamana
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Headline is a bit misleading/clickbait, while it's true Sony is indeed pulling away from PC releases, it's not because they don't want to release PC games, it's because all Xbox games will be on Steam and now with Steam Machine, Steam is actually a console platform now. It would be kinda stupid to launch first party games on a competitor storefront.
Sony could have made their own storefront and sold exclusively to offset the Steam cut but Sony probably decided it's not worth the effort given the huge drama with PSN requirements in many games and also that almost every single store apart from Steam kinda is failing from Ubisoft connect, EA Play to anything else. Releasing only on Epic (I think Sony does have some investment in Epic) would be super anti-consumer so they just said, fuck this shit, we are going full exclusive and I think this is correct business decision.
Personally, don't really care as 12 of my 460 Steam game library are Sony firstparty = that's 2.6% lol.
There are so many quality releases coming out every month that it's almost impossible to be starved of good games and given my backlog, adult "responsibilities" and career/studies, I don't mind at all. I don't have any connection or am a fan of any Sony franchise so it's hardly an issue for me.
Sony could have made their own storefront and sold exclusively to offset the Steam cut but Sony probably decided it's not worth the effort given the huge drama with PSN requirements in many games and also that almost every single store apart from Steam kinda is failing from Ubisoft connect, EA Play to anything else. Releasing only on Epic (I think Sony does have some investment in Epic) would be super anti-consumer so they just said, fuck this shit, we are going full exclusive and I think this is correct business decision.
Personally, don't really care as 12 of my 460 Steam game library are Sony firstparty = that's 2.6% lol.
There are so many quality releases coming out every month that it's almost impossible to be starved of good games and given my backlog, adult "responsibilities" and career/studies, I don't mind at all. I don't have any connection or am a fan of any Sony franchise so it's hardly an issue for me.
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Perrott
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Don't make yourself look more stupid than you probably are by dying on this hill, all over culture war nonsense.
If you don't, then we'll have to see you at The Game Awards thread later this year downplaying the ending reveal, let's say FromSoftware's next RPG, just because Geoff gave that slot to an underwhelming and commercial failure of a title, Highguard, the previous year.
Bernardougf
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This easily sounds like a very controlled leak ... too many sources and mainstream at the same time reporting to be a simple "rumor".
Radical_3d
Member
Isn't curious how good Sony news aligned in rapid succession after the clausure of BluePoint? They close BP, then PSSR2 then no more "bombing our own roof" strategy. Suspicious.
Anyways: what games?
Anyways: what games?
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
I was told specifically it was in the works so I personally don't feel it was a rumor
I would have pushed (and lost it seems) a lot of chips to the center of the table it was coming to PC
Plus sounds like Sony paid the break up fee to Marvel to not bring Wolv to PC
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
The most plausible rationale is that with Xbox now somewhat out of competition there's finally space for growth again *within the console space*. And if you consider that Nintendo are now the only real competition in that space and they are as ever leading with their exclusives, it makes sense for Sony to match them. As if they can't offer something unique compared to what lies outside in the general PC environment, its not much of a growth driver.
Nothing. The pc world isnt playstation. If they leave, then nothing.
We had pc before Sony, and we will do when sony is gone.
They will just crawl back. No one asked for them to port their games on PC. They did.
MisterXDTV
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They say nothing of value is lost, but they feel the need to post it in a thread specifically made for something worthless....
LOL
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Kokoloko85
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"Bryank liked that"
That is because it is true.
Unless Sony had 10 years of PC port, they are nothing in PC section. That is the reality.
MisterXDTV
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jm89
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Sanepar
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It says everything can change so maybe they will release with 3-4 years.
Shin-Ra
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inFAMOUS, inFAMOUS 2 and inFAMOUS: Second Son should've been ported to PS5 with 2160p60+ picture quality, HFR, full DualSense support and so on, YEARS ago.
Nintendo's doing a better job of adding early value to their new platform. Mario Galaxy 1&2, NSMB U and the upcoming Mario Wonder update already hitting the 4K60 mark.
Represent.
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Seriously ... this news boosts the value of the PS5 tremendously, overnight.
Exclusive First Party games back on the menu + No GTA6 on PC for a year = You're going to need a PS5.
Sony using their brains again is a good thing for the industry.
Next up, cancel all GAAS trash aside from Marathon
Exclusive First Party games back on the menu + No GTA6 on PC for a year = You're going to need a PS5.
Sony using their brains again is a good thing for the industry.
Next up, cancel all GAAS trash aside from Marathon
Alot of people seems to be triggered by it.
Dont worry. your precious sony will not port any of their games to PC.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Cant believe Sony is willing to give up the $4 billion they've made from PC first party sales. 
What a load of bullshit that was.
Their games consistently fail to hit decent peak numbers on steam. They themselves said that despite selling almost a million copies for Days Gone and GOW, the revenue was a pitiful $22 and 28 million. Most of their games topped out under 10k concurrent users which is awful by steam standards. Their best was Ghost of Tsushima at 70k which itself is trash compared to other big games like RE9 and Starfield which did around 300k. We are not even comparing hits like Wukong, Baldurs Gate, Hogwarts and Elden Rings that all did million to 2 million concurrent.
What it did do was halt PS5 sales which is now trailing behind PS4 for the first time this generation. You see Capcom boast about how RE is now a PC game. Same thing happened with hogwarts and Elden Rings. Sony's playstation is now number 2. All because these retards at Sony and MS gave people like an option to buy games on PC. It just didnt make sense to continue investing in their eco system so instead i invested those dollars on PC making Gabe and Jenson billions of dollars that otherwise wouldve gone into Sonys eco system like they did the past 4 generations.
I have bought a total of zero multiplatform games on the PS5 this gen. The only third party games ive bought on the ps5 were exclusives like FF16 and FF7 rebirth because i wanted to play them on day one. Epic, EA origin, Uplay, Steam, CD keys, GMG have all gotten well over a $1,000 on games ive spent this gen. Nvidia has gotten $2,000 on gpus alone.
I remember Sony's own surveys stating that early adopters like me and hardcore gamers in general spend an average of $1,700 lifetime on the eco system. Casuals and late adopters spend $700. Sony thought that the fifa and cod guys will carry them and left us out to dry. Well fuck you, good job losing $1000 on average on the people who made you successful you fucking greedy cunts. now you come back crying to us? go fuck yourselves.
What a load of bullshit that was.
Their games consistently fail to hit decent peak numbers on steam. They themselves said that despite selling almost a million copies for Days Gone and GOW, the revenue was a pitiful $22 and 28 million. Most of their games topped out under 10k concurrent users which is awful by steam standards. Their best was Ghost of Tsushima at 70k which itself is trash compared to other big games like RE9 and Starfield which did around 300k. We are not even comparing hits like Wukong, Baldurs Gate, Hogwarts and Elden Rings that all did million to 2 million concurrent.
What it did do was halt PS5 sales which is now trailing behind PS4 for the first time this generation. You see Capcom boast about how RE is now a PC game. Same thing happened with hogwarts and Elden Rings. Sony's playstation is now number 2. All because these retards at Sony and MS gave people like an option to buy games on PC. It just didnt make sense to continue investing in their eco system so instead i invested those dollars on PC making Gabe and Jenson billions of dollars that otherwise wouldve gone into Sonys eco system like they did the past 4 generations.
I have bought a total of zero multiplatform games on the PS5 this gen. The only third party games ive bought on the ps5 were exclusives like FF16 and FF7 rebirth because i wanted to play them on day one. Epic, EA origin, Uplay, Steam, CD keys, GMG have all gotten well over a $1,000 on games ive spent this gen. Nvidia has gotten $2,000 on gpus alone.
I remember Sony's own surveys stating that early adopters like me and hardcore gamers in general spend an average of $1,700 lifetime on the eco system. Casuals and late adopters spend $700. Sony thought that the fifa and cod guys will carry them and left us out to dry. Well fuck you, good job losing $1000 on average on the people who made you successful you fucking greedy cunts. now you come back crying to us? go fuck yourselves.
Revolutionary
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I guess I should have mentioned that I have a PS5 Pro lol but I rarely use it because multiplatform games are superior on PC, and as I said Sony's output has slowed down considerably to the point where I've only played a handful of Sony games over the past few years. DS2 and Yotei are the only games I played on my PS5 in 2025... and on the horizon there's only Wolverine that interests me. That's why I said this is a nothingburger to me.
demigod
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I'd place my bet on this being why.
Only thing that I wanted was god of war and spiderman. Since they ported, i am happy with them.
Astrobot was nice. Do you think it will translate very well to pc?
CallofRelic
Neo Member
I love you think that consoles run on magical fairy dust and won't be effected at all by any of those upcoming hardware crisises. I have no doubt that shareholders will be willing to subsidise every future Playstation unit by $800-900 to keep them all reasonably priced too.
It's such a fool proof plan, ppffttt.....
Cakeboxer
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It would probably sell very poorly on PC. Basically, it's a nice little game like SpongeBob SquarePants: Battle for Bikini Bottom and similar titles, but somehow I've really liked Astro Bot ever since that brilliant VR game, Astro Bot Rescue Mission.
Ass of Can Whooping
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More third party exclusive deals.
Anti-consumer sony is best sony
Anti-consumer sony is best sony
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I agree with the rest of your post but what is this part? PS5 sales only trail by a small amount and that was established at the beginning of the gen with the shortages. Not because of something that happened after the releases or now. PS4 and PS5 are selling near neck and neck .
I dont think that is the case.
Xbox lost, and they have no incentives to port their games to PC anymore, considering doing so will lead to day1 sooner or later.
That is my hunch. They dont want that day1 to happen. Otherwise, they can just make a new storefront like EA and Ubisoft.
That would be the case 10 years ago. But games are 4-5 years now. Look at ps5 lineup compared to ps4. Any extra advantage is pointless.
Radical_3d
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Are you serious? In which NeoGAF have you been the last 22 years?
After reading the 22 years part slowly one only can think: a life well spent…
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Probably due to motion control and haptic feedback. That would be nightmare on pc to port.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
it shouldnt be trailing even by a small amount seeing as how Xbox has pretty much flopped and failed to match even half of what they sold last gen, and how nintendo delayed the switch 2 for two years leading to pitiful sales giving Sony a huge opportunity to pick up disillusioned Nintendo and Xbox fans.
Im not saying they shouldve picked up all 100% of those 30 million Xbox sales or a big chunk of Ninendo switch sales after the covid bump faded, but even 25% of that gets them to hundred million. Those sales were lost to PC.
Zacfoldor
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Physiognomonics
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Those will be eventually released on PC. No changes there.
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