Whats this glaze bullshit? Is it wrong to discuss a game I enjoy? If it misses the mark you find I'll be the first person to be calling it out.
Didn't see you in the final shape thread on release nor do I see you in the Arc Raiders thread why is that?I already said it. Is not the game itself, is Bungie's wokeness
Happens all the time. Someone sees a gameplay clip, movie trailer, etc and don't like it. That's how it works.
Uh... The game is not out yet. And if a remember correctly, I gave you a list already.
Do I need to? Let's ask Chat GPT:
[h3][/h3]People aren't hating Marathon for one single reason — it's a convergence of factors that together create deep skepticism and frustration toward Bungie and the project.
- Early gameplay felt generic, flat, and uninspired, lacking Bungie's usual polish.
- Forced three-player squads alienated solo players.
- Seen as trend-chasing in the crowded extraction shooter/live-service genre.
- Misuse of the Marathon name, abandoning the old games' atmosphere and depth.
- Internal issues: toxic leadership, layoffs, low morale, and delays.
- Ethical controversy: plagiarism scandal undermined trust.
- Damaged reputation from Destiny 2 struggles and corporate integration.
- Pre-emptive cynicism: many assume it will be soulless and corporate before release.
- No proximity chat: Bungie chose not to implement it due to concerns about toxicity, which some players saw as a negative for social interaction.
not my words, not clickbait videos
You mean the OPs?
Marathon had none of that. Thats why they delayed it and thats why its so much better now than it was last year.
I don't need validation either but I do enjoy discussing game I enjoy. I don't see the point in spending energy on games I don't. I enjoy this place because there are a wide range of opinions but most of the discourse around this game was formed on that disastrous alphaUh... The game is not out yet. And if a remember correctly, I gave you a list already.
You mean the OPs?
I play games for myself. I play games that I like. I don't need validation or to talk that much about them.
They fucked the marketing for sure. No idea what they were thinking there. If they would have gone about their business with the closed alpha rather than blowing there own trumpet most of it could have been avoided.
Nah mate all good. This Place is decent because we can argue. Be shit if was an echo chamber.Okay well 10 days to go I think I can afford to stop posting for now. Have fun arguing I guess
That's the critical difference, yep, this one had a rework and everything, they basically did the right things. Knives are out for GaaS right now, though out there in the either.
It's the same mostly actually.
Yeah but this ain't constructive arguing it's just summoning someone every few days to get into a catfight about nothing. But I mean yeah if you're good then that's cool, I'm just not interested in participating in that. I'll be around for the preview and release
Its all good. These posters post to get a reaction I'll bite every now and again.Yeah but this ain't constructive arguing it's just summoning someone every few days to get into a catfight about nothing. But I mean yeah if you're good then that's cool, I'm just not interested in participating in that. I'll be around for the preview and release
How so?It's the same mostly actually.
Oh you wont get an answer for that
Yeah, that's why I said it's a different facet of gaming discourse, and in some regards it's equally, if not more, insightful into the game-making process, the tech behind it, design decisions, bad management, etc..
Remember that it was leaked/NDAs were broken and then the flood gates had to open.
I was thinking when I played this game "what the fuck is this?" and yeah "that is a tough sell" then it clicked. I have no skin in the game if it turns out shite then so be it but after a good few hours with it, its my most wanted this year by far.Yeah, that's why I said it's a different facet of gaming discourse, and in some regards it's equally, if not more, insightful into the game-making process, the tech behind it, design decisions, bad management, etc..
Channels/series like "All Games Are Belong to Us" from Machinima (if I remember correctly) or now with channels like GVMERS. Are perfect examples of this dynamic.
Remember that it was leaked/NDAs were broken and then the flood gates had to open.
The game is/will be fine. It's better than I thought. You have to know what you're getting into. It's not a fast pace shooter.
Now full disclosure, was on the Destiny train for 10 years with thousand of hours on it through the Final Shape campaign and dropped after that, so there is a sense of familiarity yet different. Not a bad thing, they did need to change some things up and they will continue.
It takes a few games for this to click, but it's fun. The release video was the worse possible way to reveal. This is just an alpha let's see what this looks like in a few months.
Bungie.net
www.bungie.net
Alpha is a curated, limited slice of systems and content. We welcome feedback across the board, but the areas we are most keen to hear your thoughts on are:
It's important to note the Alpha is NOT the complete game. It does not include:
- Weapons and gunplay
- Maps and survival gameplay
- Runners, including kits and build-crafting
- Early-game progression, including factions, contracts, and faction upgrades
- PvP engagements against other Runners
- PvE engagements against AI combatants
- Final visuals and graphics, including animations and lighting
- Full and polished UI
- All Runners
- All zones, including the Marathon Ship
- Pinnacle and end game content
- All weapons, items, consumables, implants, cores, and mods
- All factions and upgrades
- Long term progression and systems
- Complete narrative and storytelling systems and final shipping content
- Ranked play
- Final balance
- We'll be hosting developer Q+As, streams, and jumping in with other creators all next week. See you on Tau Ceti IV.
Make sure to look at the date on this as well...
Make sure to look at the date on this as well...
"Bungie is building gasoline in a market dominated with kerosene. People will continue to say "PvP Live Service is a saturated market" but they don't realize that Marathon is something totally new. It just doesn't look like it through the old lense."
I wrote that thread on April 15th...3 days after the Marathon gameplay reveal.
Everyone was down on the game after the April reveal. It looked like shit and a big miss.
Which makes that thread even more interesting.
Anything with depth is often misunderstood.
That's the entire point. Nothing really changed since April, the base game then is the base game now.
Dunno I saw the April test but didn't play it. Seemed like everyone who did said it was missing something. I got access to the October test and went in indifferent and came out loving it.
Wasn't there significant changes made since the October test as well?
It was an alpha last April, stuff was missing that was obviously going to be worked on before release. There were some gameplay issues small bugs in the menu for example and the outside graphical issues because the lighting wasnt finished which was a far contrast to the interior which looked sharp then. But the core game itself, the gameplay was there then. The game wasnt reworked from the design of gameplay then to now. Other than cleaning the game up before retail the game hasn't really changed it just got into more peoples hands but that about it.
I agree.
"Significant" is debatable.
Did you play in any of the tests?
Would you say your opinion has significantly changed since the initial reveal?
Two ways to answer.
Isn't that three ways?
I'll stay in this topic, far from every ccu and other marathon related topics where the trolls will gatherI'll just do a normal OT. The slam thread will be a car crash. If i get pissed then I may not make it to launch
I'll do a quick slam thread if nobody else does.
Same mate. I'll swap over to the OT on release but the inevitable CCU thread and the slam thread should keep the simps happy.
