DenchDeckard
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hmm the plot thickens, maybe its not bad after all
Like average ps5 users have any gauge on how performance really is.
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First Baldur's Gate 3 PS5 Impressions - "No Stable 60FPS - Performance vs Quality Mode"
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Like average ps5 users have any gauge on how performance really is.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
MasterCornholio
Member
Probably someone that's mad that the PS5 version wasn't cancelled. Just means another good game for PS5 owners to play even though the performance might not be perfect.
Low Moral Fibre
Member
Wow looks like shit on PS5 and I did say there was 0% chance it would hold 60fps on PS5 and here we are.
The GOTY deserves a PC - go on, treat yourselves.
The GOTY deserves a PC - go on, treat yourselves.
DenchDeckard
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How many loading screens are their?
Loading gate 2023?
This game is made for pc and got the hype for that platform. Its great that those who want to play it on ps5 can but I doubt it will be many.
Thirty7ven
Banned
Load time is very disappointing and clearly shows that data management is a weakness here and they didn’t properly optimize it for the PS5.
For the type of game it is 30 fps is more than good enough.
For the type of game it is 30 fps is more than good enough.
CPU limited for sure.
I know people like their slick visuals and all, but the PS360 skewed way more to the CPU, then the slightly weaker GPU. Games in that era saw a massive leap in simulation and world complexity.
Any thing after that gen, the GPU leaped over the CPU. Even now with the Zen 2's. Would love it of the next consoles would lean more heavily on CPU and IO leaps, as I feel purely GPU horse power isn't that interesting for the actual underlying game-logic, games like BG3 really pushes for.
I know people like their slick visuals and all, but the PS360 skewed way more to the CPU, then the slightly weaker GPU. Games in that era saw a massive leap in simulation and world complexity.
Any thing after that gen, the GPU leaped over the CPU. Even now with the Zen 2's. Would love it of the next consoles would lean more heavily on CPU and IO leaps, as I feel purely GPU horse power isn't that interesting for the actual underlying game-logic, games like BG3 really pushes for.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
This sounds like a garbage port unfortunately. Even if the performance woes can be explained by it being CPU limited or whatever, 40+ second load times are a very sure sign the game has not been optimized for the platform.
Less sure about getting this game now.
Less sure about getting this game now.
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TrebleShot
Member
Just play it on PS5 if you want to know what it’s really like.
Plays and performs very well. I have it on PC also.
Plays and performs very well. I have it on PC also.
Doom85
Member
DenchDeckard
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1080p and drops below 30 fps. I hope this is an incorrect analysis.
What happened this generation?
What happened this generation?
Fabieter
Member
Can you elaborate why would you think that?
DenchDeckard
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It just seems that pc is the platform the game focused on. It launched a month early after 3 years of early access and a minimum 6 years dev time. It works and runs very well on pc and if this analysis is correct that the consoles just either have that the time to be developed properly or they are just not strong enough.
Maybe they've done the maths and underestimated how much it would sell on ps5 before the bear fucking hype and its just not been given the time and resources it needed.
I dunno. Maybe?
Fabieter
Member
I have over 150h on the pc version and damn had it many bugs and performance issues. Loading times are even worse on most pcs than what it shown here. Did you even play the game?
They thought with the pc version that the concurrent players had their expectations beaten by like 8 times so yea they didn't know it will sell this mich on any platform.
The reason spencer caved for the series s is because he also didn't see it coming. It will sell really well on both consoles.
Bojji
Member
PS5 SSD should fill ALL available RAM in 3 seconds maximum. Loading in this game is entirely CPU limited, even PC version has long loading times but you can brute force them by using fast CPU. They are not using PS5 I/O at all.
When game is CPU limited dropping resolution won't do much.
Game is unoptimized on PC, R5 3600 (that is slighty faster than consoles CPUs) is barely above 30FPS in Act 3 and PS5 version runs worse.
What happened is that developers don't have time, skill or simply don't want to optimize their games (like they used to). Almost all new games run like garbage compared to how they look.
squarealex
Member
I'm more surprising on the loading time than the performance.
BTW. I'm playing on 5800X / 2060S and I set my setting like this : All Medium except Textures / Shadow, 1440p, VRR, Framerate lock to 48 fps (I can lock to 60fps, but I felt framedrops and I don't want hearing my fan GPU)
DLSS Balanced (Wich is likely native a bit under 900p).
So i would say, is "not bad" for PS5.. Except loading time
BTW. I'm playing on 5800X / 2060S and I set my setting like this : All Medium except Textures / Shadow, 1440p, VRR, Framerate lock to 48 fps (I can lock to 60fps, but I felt framedrops and I don't want hearing my fan GPU)
DLSS Balanced (Wich is likely native a bit under 900p).
So i would say, is "not bad" for PS5.. Except loading time
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Zuzu
Member
Ok. There probably won't be much improvement of loading time via patches then. That sucks.
feynoob
Member
Because the scope of games these days are big.
Unless you are owned by MS, Sony or Nintendo, you won't have the budget to optimize the game.
Nintendo basically delayed tears of kingdom to fix those bugs, while MS delayed starfield. That cost a lot of money.
Developers need to scale their games down.
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Fart Knight
Al Pachinko, Konami President
ThisIsMyDog
Member
That's why i was thinking how the fuck can they target 60FPS when in act 3 better CPU's than PS5 one are getting less than 30FPS. Now i know why, cause 60fps mode is bullshit.
VitoNotVito
Member
John is American
Also, not sure why his nationality is connected to the credibility (or lack of it)?
MasterCornholio
Member
At this point I'm wondering how it's going to work on the Series S. The PS5 version has issues and no doubt the Series X will as well because its close to it.
Moses85
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DenchDeckard
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But everyone said the game was flawless on pc and there wasn't bugs. Is the narrative changing now?
I haven't played it yet. I can't wait to though. I'm picking it up after atargield and cyberpunk.
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DenchDeckard
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480p incoming. Or 720p at 30fps
Markio128
Member
I’m not going to refute anything shown in the video, but as someone who’s currently several hours into the PS5 version, I’ll say that the loading is similar to The Witcher 3 - there’s an initial longish load time to get into the game, then nothing noticeable until you fast travel. I’ve only fast travelled once in around 5 hours because there is very little need to, unlike the aforementioned The Witcher 3.
In all that time, I haven’t noticed any bugs or performance issues, in both performance and quality mode.
Most importantly, it plays fantastic on console with a controller. I’m stoked that we get the chance to play this kind of game on console.
In all that time, I haven’t noticed any bugs or performance issues, in both performance and quality mode.
Most importantly, it plays fantastic on console with a controller. I’m stoked that we get the chance to play this kind of game on console.
Fabieter
Member
It never was. The difference is what's there is soo good that it doesn't matter to much. Can't say that for other rpgs tho.
DenchDeckard
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Would ypu say its under 60 and even drops under 30? What mode are you playing in?
ThisIsMyDog
Member
It will be 1080p, this is CPU problem not GPU.
DenchDeckard
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I can't wait to get to it. I'm hoping they fix act 3 by the time I pick it up.
Also, a lot of these bugs might be fixed.
MasterCornholio
Member
Well all three have CPU problems. Don't see how it's going to be solid on any system. But for 30FPS it should be fine.
Fabieter
Member
They might do it. With the last patch on pc it ironed out alot of the performance issues on pc already.
This game is going to sell a ton of copies in consoles, because the game is pretty famous currently. Happened with Skyrim, where people didn’t touch a RPG game bought for PS3 and 360.
Gudji
Member
Wtf that's worse than starfield.
feynoob
Member
I wouldnt go that far. This game mechanics doesnt suit the normies.
Skyrim and other rpg work, because of the nature of those games.
At mostly, it will be 8m to 10m total.
The series have around 8m-9m estimate (not actual sale).
Normies Watch their favorite youtubers play this and buy this even if they play 5 minutes and stop.
YeulEmeralda
Member
Physiognomonics
Member
Haven't you heard? It's heavily CPU limited. PS5 Pro will very likely not save this game performance, or not much.
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feynoob
Member
sums up gaming these days.
No one gets to play quarter of the game these days.
Maybe you can fix it for them , if they hire you ?
Shake Your Rump
Member
Why is the performance so low? Playing on my laptop with a 3060 6GB, the game runs around 100fps.
Tsaki
Member
Ah yes the classic "You do it then". I guess you don't have any criticism about any game ever, right? Better yet, you wouldn't have criticism for any movie, music, piece of electronic, everything really. After all, you'd have to be able to make those things yourself for your opinion to be valid.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
adamsapple - think you should update the OP and add a disclaimer here that like a dozen PS5 players have reported otherwise.
But user experiences are always varied, the video is showing frame graphs and load time captures from start to finish.
For example, there's also users with posts like this on reddit.
Will make new topics when DF / NXG type folk start talking about this as well.
Sounds like 40 ~ second load times are a norm for the game regardless of where you're playing.
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twilo99
Member
The game absolutely deserves that score.. devs being forced to optimize for a decade old CPUs is no reason to complain about the game not being good.
StereoVsn
Member
What are your PC specs? I would say my load times are substantially less overall.
Initial save load is under 30 sec. Fast travel on same map is under 5 and different region is under 30. I will time this today just to double check.
This is on 7800x3d CPU though and on NVME gen 4 SSD, but I don't think the latter matters all that much (vs even SATA SSD) since they don't use DirectStorage tech.
StereoVsn
Member
First two acts are fine right now, and most egregious bugs in Act 3 should be fixed by last 2 patches.
It will take you anywhere form 50 to 80 hours to get through Acts 1&2 anyways so by the time one hits Act 3 it's fine.
On PS5 it seems might as well wait for another patch first. But damn, this is game is amazing and since it's turned based combat 30fps is not really as much as a deal breaker as in say an action game like Starfield.
Fart Knight
Al Pachinko, Konami President
Yeas, lets believe the opinions of dozens without analyze tools
Skifi28
Member
Going by the PC version, a CPU issue.