GHG
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Digital Foundry: Resident Evil 4 Remake First Look: A Classic in the Making? PS5, PS4, Xbox Series X and PC Tested
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Deep down you know why.
Those are the results of a demo, we have to be careful and wait for the final game to make assessments.
That being said, the launch is very close and there are many aspects that need to be fixed in each version. In XSX the issue of control and deadzone is essential. On PS5, the IQ (either by type of reconstruction or by the difference in resolution) and absent RT reflections could explain a certain advantage in framerate...
It is very curious because in all the games with REengine in XSX vs PS5 these differences did not occur except perhaps the slight advantage of XSX in framerate ,the demo and the final game were 1:1
We will see
That being said, the launch is very close and there are many aspects that need to be fixed in each version. In XSX the issue of control and deadzone is essential. On PS5, the IQ (either by type of reconstruction or by the difference in resolution) and absent RT reflections could explain a certain advantage in framerate...
It is very curious because in all the games with REengine in XSX vs PS5 these differences did not occur except perhaps the slight advantage of XSX in framerate ,the demo and the final game were 1:1
We will see
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DenchDeckard
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I mean let's be honest, raytracing is demanding as fuck...if one version isn't even displaying reflections etc in puddles and displaying less raytracing, not having to calculate bounces or reflections...I would expect that version to have a considerable performance advantage....
Also....imagine if this is all fixed for launch...and they are more or less identical...we would all hope.
They need to fix the ps5 vaseline filter and sort the xbox dead zone.
Also....imagine if this is all fixed for launch...and they are more or less identical...we would all hope.
They need to fix the ps5 vaseline filter and sort the xbox dead zone.
Topher
Gold Member
I didn’t need to read the thread to know which version that was supreme, i just needed to look who made the thread, and damn i was right
Why?
adamsapple
posts these threads when PS wins as well.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
What's the correlation between PC version and OP?I didn’t need to read the thread to know which version that was supreme, i just needed to look who made the thread, and damn i was right
thats ok but its weird that whenever alex comes in to talk about comparisons of ps5 vs xbox he always somehow doctors his videos just to say the series x is a better version with no clear comparisons like when he claimed series x had a better performing gpu because of control photomode and hitman 3 and ever since then everything he says is in favour of series x despite other analysts showing different results like nx gamer, vg tech and other df content makers like john and oliver who always show clean and fair comparisons, but somehow whenever i see alex doing analysis he somehow doctors the comparisons and claim xbox performs better or if otherwise he starts blaming developers... im just curious..
Thebonehead
Banned
Why?
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Straight performance mode for me all day. So fix the xbox dead zone...and the ps5 vaseline filter and we got a straight tie banger of a release!
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Why?
There's always one posted in each of these threads.
anyone else makes DF topic "guess we know which one won because adams didn't make the topic"
I post video but not the summary "guess we know which one won because adams didn't post summary"
I post video and summary "guess we know which one won because adams posted the summary"
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
There's always one posted in each of these threads.
anyone else makes DF topic "guess we know which one won because adams didn't make the topic"
I post video but not the summary "guess we know which one won because adams didn't post summary"
I post video and summary "guess we know which one won because adams posted the summary"
Amazing! Hahaha
Topher
Gold Member
There's always one posted in each of these threads.
anyone else makes DF topic "guess we know which one won because adams didn't make the topic"
I post video but not the summary "guess we know which one won because adams didn't post summary"
I post video and summary "guess we know which one won because adams posted the summary"
I think most of us appreciate the effort you put into these threads.
Thebonehead
Banned
Topher
Gold Member
On the other hand some people are like...
Occasionally, that sums up
adamsapple
and myself in the ABK acquisition thread as well, I have to say. 
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Occasionally, that sums up
Outside of that one topic we're all like this mostly
I really am overdue for a hug myself.....let me know if you guys have any room.Outside of that one topic we're all like this mostly
Thebonehead
Banned
Topher
Gold Member
Lysandros
Member
I think you know that point.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
01011001
Banned
off topic, Power Rangers in Space is the best season with the best opening song.
...that's it...continue...
01011001
Banned
prettybsure the 7700k isn't much worse than the Zen chips inside the consoles, so getting at least console like performance shouldn't be an issue with it
It is kinda known how little they actually know bout tech n game software.
Alex is the only one who goes at least a bit(just a bit though) beyond very surface level casual overview of the technical side of games
Thaedolus
Gold Member
Yeah but look at the minimum specs of a port like TLOU Part I with 32GB of system RAM…not always as easy as a 1:1 comparison on paper. And I’ve got it paired to an RTX4080, so it’s definitely the bottleneck in my system now. New build will be done in a few months…
01011001
Banned
it's kinda known by fanboys who don't like if they report facts they don't like
John literally makes his own unreal engine virtual sets for his retro episodes, so he kinda knows at least enough about game Software to use UE5 to make scenes and use the engine's camera and animation system
Alex seems to constantly read about and watch deep dives about new graphics technology and talks with developers about it.
Richard programmed their in-house FPS and tearing analysis tool that works in real time while recording.
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He is hardly technically better than DF .. sorry . I don’t watch his arm chair analysis anymore . I did like what I saw from this demo ! RE4 is one of my favorite games , I even have a still sealed USA NGC copy .
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Mr Moose
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More advanced games, like a PS4 game.
Neo_game
Member
IMO it is good they are testing the demo. The only good thing from DF IMO is that they can get the word out about some issues and the devs can fix it via patch if it is a simple bug or some serious issue. I think Codemasters and other dev actually benifited from this when SX was performing really poor and had settings mismatched. However it is intresting they did not bother with SS which probably need most attention ?
Topher
Gold Member
their content speaks for it self. And it is what it is unfortunately. Stil has it's use. I still watch.it's kinda known by fanboys who don't like if they report facts they don't like
John literally makes his own unreal engine virtual sets for his retro episodes, so he kinda knows at least enough about game Software to use UE5 to make scenes and use the engine's camera and animation system
Alex seems to constantly read about and watch deep dives about new graphics technology and talks with developers about it.
Richard programmed their in-house FPS and tearing analysis tool that works in real time while recording.
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01011001
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yeah totally, and I bet you will have no issue proving your claim
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
man.. I am getting everything on ps5 this gen since I like getting physical games but it looks kinda disasterous on ps5 to be honest. Runs poorly too.
I should get it for 3080. It's cheaper for steam and looks/runs better. Although tons of crahes but fixable with settings.
Really poor showing by capcom for ps5. This should not be a crossgen game.
I don't understand why they made some of this choices. Strange there is no all out 30/40fps mode too
I should get it for 3080. It's cheaper for steam and looks/runs better. Although tons of crahes but fixable with settings.
Really poor showing by capcom for ps5. This should not be a crossgen game.
I don't understand why they made some of this choices. Strange there is no all out 30/40fps mode too
saintjules
Member
Why not double dip?
Topher
Gold Member
Clearly there is more to it than just CU count though as most versions of games are nearly identical. And I believe the last couple of games have actually shown better performance on PS5. Hogwart's and Gotham Knights, I believe. Before that, I think Dead Space Remake favored XSX. So there is a lot of back and forth all gen long. Ultimately, I don't think there is enough difference to make a big deal about either way. I've said this before regardless of which console has the "best" version of a game. For the vast majority, I wouldn't think twice about playing the game on XSX or PS5.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
And RT still proves to be a waste of everyones time yet again. So much performance and memory use for puddles reflections or invisible gi....
I really think they should forget about ps4, forget about rt and focus on making proper games.
Look at uc4 or tlou2. it was non-rt possible on ps4. Imagine what we could have not... but it requires a ton of work instead of just lapping RT wax on the game
edit: and vrr did just what I expected. Devs start relying on VRR to save the day instead of making proper stable 30/40/60fps games. VRR should be a feature when we want to unlock framerate. Not a necessity .
And why the hell is ps5 vrr still 48fps min
I really think they should forget about ps4, forget about rt and focus on making proper games.
Look at uc4 or tlou2. it was non-rt possible on ps4. Imagine what we could have not... but it requires a ton of work instead of just lapping RT wax on the game
edit: and vrr did just what I expected. Devs start relying on VRR to save the day instead of making proper stable 30/40/60fps games. VRR should be a feature when we want to unlock framerate. Not a necessity .
And why the hell is ps5 vrr still 48fps min
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Seems like one of the consistent things I hear from devs is Sony offering better tools, and possibly the single memory pool making it easier to squeeze da juice.Clearly there is more to it than just CU count though as most versions of games are nearly identical. And I believe the last couple of games have actually shown better performance on PS5. Hogwart's and Gotham Knights, I believe. Before that, I think Dead Space Remake favored XSX. So there is a lot of back and forth all gen long. Ultimately, I don't think there is enough difference to make a big deal about either way. I've said this before regardless of which console has the "best" version of a game. For the vast majority, I wouldn't think twice about playing the game on XSX or PS5.
unlurkified
Member
If they fix the controls that is. Played through the demo 4-5 times each on PS5 and SX and it’s borderline unplayable on SX as is.
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
I mean DF will do another for the Final Release.
Village was the same and both Remakes.
DenchDeckard
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Looking forward to seeing if he mentions that the reduced raytracing on the PS5 could be causing the frame advantage....and then when he compares the PS5 version to a pc with a 2060 or something wild like that.
He probably wont compare PS5 to PC with this one because PC is the far superior looking/running version.
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DeepEnigma
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One of the best shows of all time. I see you're man of culture and taste!Outside of that one topic we're all like this mostly
Topher
Gold Member
Guess that makes sense. Next year we will be at the halfway point in the gen and neither console is outpacing the other so far. Fine by me really as I'd rather use other aspects to decide where to play the games such as game pass or trophies.
demigod
Member
Should’ve kept your VR. PS5 will be the best version.
Gonzito
Member
This is a bit off topic but worth mentioning
El analista de bits is not a reliable source of information. I have seen some people saying that DF is wrong and the resolution is higher on ps5 because el analista said so.
No, no and no. El analista should not be trusted because he is being caught many times giving his audience the wrong information
El analista de bits is not a reliable source of information. I have seen some people saying that DF is wrong and the resolution is higher on ps5 because el analista said so.
No, no and no. El analista should not be trusted because he is being caught many times giving his audience the wrong information
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rofif
Can’t Git Gud
nah. vr is not worth it for me.
And seeing how it performs now.... it will be very blurry in vr