splattered
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Yeah it's already been announced, 04/01/2024
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Microsoft / Activision Deal Approval Watch |OT| (MS/ABK close)
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GHG
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They would have been able to get access to the games just as much as anyone else would have been able to. The same goes for Bethesda and any other companies that have been swallowed up in this recent period of mass consolidation.
Now it's all capped at 10 years when it was previously as long as Activision Blizzard make games.
If left untamed, all of this makes it increasingly prohibitive for any new players to enter the industry. Microsoft taking away something that was once permanent and then offering it back to select companies at their discretion in a time-limited fashion is not "giving life", it's birth control.
Dick Jones
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Two things
1. It's Spider-Man not Spiderman or SPiderman
2. Microsoft while having a partnership with Insomniac rejected an offer from Marvel for exclusive use of any IP. If anything, Spider-Man by Insomniac was sloppy seconds for Sony.
GHG
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splattered
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Lol that's such a cop out by Google. As if they would have made if they could have just sold more copies of skyrim. Literally have to be an idiot to believe that.
GHG
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If you can show me where they are offering companies more than 10 years then that will be great.
There are simpler ways around this if they really wanted to make sure call of duty and Activision blizzard's catalogue remained 3rd party and available to all industry players as it is today.
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It is absolutely amazing how altruistic MS has been the past couple of years. The amount they have gotten done in between their big AAA game launches has been beyond anything we could have reasonably hoped for. For all the talk about case by case basis, they just expanded access to all of the Bethesda games instead. And despite being busy on a second acquisition, they still launched bean bags and controller sweaters. Hell, you can even get a Series S that looks like junk food, or junk food shaped like controllers now. And that's just the beginning. Even while they diligently figure out how to get 150 million more people playing COD, they take time to prop up game devs in Ukraine I hear. Generous angels is an understatement. And you just watch. Pretty soon we we all recognize that the way to cure cancer is to get COD on GP.
splattered
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mansoor1980
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one of the factors that had made Google decide to close the book on original game development
Mr Moose
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The Amazing Spider-Man 2 Now Available on Xbox One and Xbox 360 - Xbox Wire
Content: The Amazing Spider-Man 2 Check price and availability in your Xbox LIVE region The Amazing Spider-Man 2 takes place outside the events of the 2nd film in a unique story where Spider-Man discovers a larger threat to NYC that has turned the underworld upside down. Villains from the film...
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Thirty7ven
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The FTC is asking to see them but MS doesn’t seem interested in showing them.
GHG
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They shouldn't need to be "renewable". Renewable implies that both sides of the table need to come to an agreement, that shouldn't have to be the case, it's not how it currently works outside of marketing deals.
ulantan
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When Microsoft puts out halo and gears 6 on switch I promise.
splattered
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Right, because it was unsuccessful and they decided not to dump a ton of money into acquisitions or first party studios etc. Not really anyone else's fault but Google, it just didn't work out as they had hoped.
Poltz
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Dick Jones
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In a behind closed doors meeting, Jim Ryan reportedly said they are reviewing each game on a case by case basis. Lulu will tweet this private conservation tomorrow.
lefty1117
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Good .. so you can see how stupid this whole debate is.
Wonder when FF16 is coming to Xbox? Wonder when Gears is going to Playstation? The whole debate is stupid. The horse left the barn long ago.
Google is doing MS a solid favor if they blame lack of content. If they just blamed the practical limitations of game streaming it would shine a bright shiny spotlight on what COD players already know about the theoretical possibility of streaming COD on Switch.
GHG
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If Microsoft went to Activision and managed to get a 3rd party exclusivity deal with them for COD or any other game (or even to co-develop a game for them) then this thread doesn't exist and we don't even have this discussion.
However they didn't do that, the decided to go for the nuclear route, so here we are and now we must suffer your false equivalences.
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ulantan
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What debate?
SenjutsuSage
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Lulu when her female employees are being sexual harassed, to the point of depression and one commits suicide:
Lulu when Activision is forced to pay millions in damages for running a heinous and oppressive workplace culture:
Lulu when a journalist misquotes her:
Hmm, seems very personal lol.
She only just assumed her position in October of last year. Prior to that she was just added to the Board of Directors somewhere around April of the same year.
GHG
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The "debate" that timed exclusives, 3rd party exclusives and even games/IP developed by a company's own first party studios are the same as going out to market and wholesale purchasing any major 3rd party publisher possible.
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Duchess
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I've actually wondered if MS rejected the Marvel offer because they wanted to make a Spider-Man game, but wouldn't have been able to without the approval of Sony, due to the media licensing rights?
fred420170
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She's right to do so. The media is just full of liars, and I'm not just talking about gaming media... Nobody in journalism seems to fact check anything before writing about it these days.Lulu when her female employees are being sexual harassed, to the point of depression and one commits suicide:
Lulu when Activision is forced to pay millions in damages for running a heinous and oppressive workplace culture:
Lulu when a journalist misquotes her:
Astray
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Nah Activision had that license before Sony.
Sony only had the tv and film rights.
EDIT: Actually Sony doesn't even have an exclusive license for games, Spiderman appears in Midnight Sons which is multiplat.
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Warablo
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Which they will have 10 years to make exclusives to fill the multiplayer void.
If I were a betting man I'd say the next mainline Elder Scrolls will be multiplat. At best it will be a timed exclusive on Xbox with exclusive content. Reasoning being there's a builtin audience on Playstation. And if those Xbox perks (earlier release, bonus content) don't get them to switch platforms. Might as well sell them the full game. The audience is there. Plus you can monetize that same audience with Elder Scrolls Online.
Dick Jones
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Not connected. Sony only holds the movie rights.
mansoor1980
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bentanchorbolt
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Realistically, I just want to know when CoD is going to show up on Game Pass.
lefty1117
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Sure it's the same thing. How do you think Sony came into possession of their studios? One company has more money for acquisitions than others and now all of a sudden there are all these conditions on when an acquisition should be allowed or not ... people need to get real. Either it's allowed or it's not. Exclusives are an acceptable practice or they're not. If MS can't make the acquisition to stop the practice then that should be the case across the board.
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bentanchorbolt
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I think the main difference here is we are talking about buyouts that in the past were 100 million or so, some into the billions, now we are talking about the largest 3rd party publisher in the world, and its for $70b.
Phil Spencer CarSales Man
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, MS passed up on it to concentrate on owned IP's. MS has no one to blame for themselves for that one. Don't know why that's so hard understand. A Marvel exec came out and said this.
GHG
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Eclxclusives are not the same as purchasing the largest 3rd party publisher in the world, no matter how much you wish it to be the case.
Phil Spencer CarSales Man
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lefty1117
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It absolutely is. If the worry is that the acquisition will result in a game becoming exclusive, it's no different than a company buying smaller studios and making their new releases exclusive. What's different is the price tag and size, but that is Sony's problem. Which certainly they seem to understand based on the hysteria
Mr Reasonable
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Topher
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Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
The spacing in the wrong space (carsales man, instead of car salesman) is the biggest offense.
ChorizoPicozo
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you dont need to do this.
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