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Now Available: Nvidia Game Ready Driver 531.18 Allows RTX Video Super Resolution In Chrome and Edge Browse

Celcius

°Temp. member
The nvidia 531.18 driver came out today which allows nvidia's new Video Super Resolution feature, which uses RTX 3000 and RTX 4000 GPU's to upscale lower resolution video to look better: https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforc...s-3-the-finals-closed-beta-game-ready-driver/

You'll need:
1. The latest version of the Chrome or Edge web browser
2. This new nvidia graphics driver
3. An rtx 3000 or 4000 series videocard.

The will be an option to enable it in the nvidia control panel:
nvidia-control-panel-geforce-rtx-video-super-resolution-options-highlighted-v2.jpg

and you'll be able to select the quality from 1 (lowest) to 4 (highest).

"Users can specify quality levels between 1 (lowest) to 4 (highest). Higher quality levels will result in sharper images and improved artifact reduction. Higher quality levels require additional GPU resources, so if users need more horsepower to run creative apps or games while playing video, the quality level can be adjusted. All 30 and 40 series RTX GPUs are able to comfortably upscale using quality level 1, and xx70 class or higher are able to play most content at quality level 4."

It works with Youtube, Twitch, Netflix, etc...

What do you guys think?
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Celcius

°Temp. member
I'm testing it with Youtube and it seems to help get rid of macroblocking in lower resolution videos.
Using an RTX 3090 with quality set to 4 and Chrome.

Sample video, Evo Moment #37:




Not a HUGE difference but a small one imo



To me it's more noticeable in this second video
 
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Kuranghi

Member
Hmm, would like to see comparison first, TVs have been at a limit of upscaling quality for nearly 5 years now, but the processing power available here is magnitudes higher than a TV "image processor".

I mean Sony by that, Panasonic and Philips are basically there by 2022, LG and Samsung playing catch still but its to a point of difference where most people won't care anyway. Smung (and maybe Lego?) actually beat Sorny is very specific circumstances with soft SD broadcasts because Sorny have hit a wall since X1 Extreme and now looking for ways to make it look "better" and misinterpret content and oversharpen it a bit, with X1 Ultimate and especially with XR. Again though its minor I'm not saying you have a PooLED if its not a Sornby.

meh i didnt like this feature
looks like some crap snakeoil painterly look enhanced bullshit

im not falling for it

also makes gpu chew through a lot of power. unnecessary power usage and temps + even fans kicked in

pass

Ah okay yeah its nothing special then, its sharpening of certain textures and a DNR sort of thing, keep it aye.
 

T4keD0wN

Member
I find it much better than MadVR and at a lower power usage, but much worse than Topaz AI which doesnt really work in real-time. Too bad we cant properly customize the settings and create presets like in those 2 or easily choose when to use it, not very user friendly. It might look good in one case and bad in the next one, the results will be wildly inconsistent.

Calling it super resolution when its just limited to upscaling and it doesnt work on native or higher videos is pretty deceptive. Surprisingly good for low quality videos, but not great for higher bitrate and resolutions.

A little warning: the upscaling wont trigger if the video playback window isnt larger than the selected playback resolution, so it might not work everytime unless you pick low enough quality, increase the window size or use fullscreen where it should work always as long as the video is below your native screen resolution.

Someone has already made it work on MPC-HC/BE.

Now we just need it on Firefox.

While i find the results quite impressive for how little power it uses compared to other solutions i expected a bit more. Its just way too restrictive in its current form. Hope they keep on improving it by giving us some options to tweak.
 
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Seems really wasteful to have thousands of people individually do this in real time when Youtube could do it once and host as an alternate version to a video - make it a toggle or something in the UI.

Hmm, would like to see comparison first, TVs have been at a limit of upscaling quality for nearly 5 years now, but the processing power available here is magnitudes higher than a TV "image processor".

I mean Sony by that, Panasonic and Philips are basically there by 2022, LG and Samsung playing catch still but its to a point of difference where most people won't care anyway. Smung (and maybe Lego?) actually beat Sorny is very specific circumstances with soft SD broadcasts because Sorny have hit a wall since X1 Extreme and now looking for ways to make it look "better" and misinterpret content and oversharpen it a bit, with X1 Ultimate and especially with XR. Again though its minor I'm not saying you have a PooLED if its not a Sornby.
are you ok
 

Celcius

°Temp. member
hmm, I think I'll keep it off personally for now. It's hard to see the difference imho and I think I prefer to watch video without AI upscaling/smoothing. As others have said it will probably get better over time though.
 
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Kuranghi

Member
Smung Lego Sorny Sorny PooLED Sornby

Probably just autocorrect gone wild but lol

I'm afraid to say everyone of those "autocorrects" was intentional lol.

Its all basically an in joke with a friend who also promotes TVs, we say those words all day every day so much we like to be silly with it and change it up. Sorny is a Simpsons reference too*, Lego is one we learned from a funny little blueberry-shaped older man called JR who is an abosolute character and we love him dearly, I think he's retiring soon though :goog_crying: its a young man's game the TV promoting/direct sales business, you need a lot of energy and JR eats the logiest possible lunches on top of being two steps away from a heart attack every morning so he isn't jogging around stores like I/we have to.

PooLED was just a way of expressing that I'm not saying Samsung is rubbish, since they are the main purveyors of the QLED and Neo QLED branding.

*
 
This is way too resource intensive for what it delivers. I saw around 150w increased power draw watching a 1080p60 stream. Quality difference was super minimal to my eye. Gave it this filtered SNES emulation look. Also I love how they claim "oh it just uses the tensor cores, AI bro!" then you check generic GPU usage and the card is at 35% utilization. The hell is the point of those dedicated hardware cores, like the video encoders, if it's still going to do a ton of work on the general raster cores?
 

yamaci17

Member
It's awesome that they brought this out. It will only get better too.
nvidia practically fires and forgets these kind of features

see: DLDSR. gone and forgotten. you have to make do with horrible artificial sharpening they have. even at %100 smoothness, it still sharpnes the hell out of the image. you can clearly see their weird edge ehncament filter as well. no improvements, no updates, forgotten

same for DSR. stuck to gaussian weird filter for 6+ years now. lanczos provides much better scaling. nowhere to be seen.
 

Kuranghi

Member
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flying_sq

Member
I wonder how well this will work for live sports.

Checked it out with some old Halo 2 Montages (man I miss the montage days), at 480p side by side with Firefox defintely looks cleaner, but not a huge margin. Definitely helps with macroblocking like Celcius said.

FYI 1 is lowest quality setting, 4 is highest quality setting. Only 3070 and above or 4070 and above support the highest quality setting.

Also here is a link to an Nvidia FAQ, it seems like it will eventually come to 2000 series cards.
https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5448
 
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Kuranghi

Member
Oh no, it's Predator Blu-ray all over again, only this time we can inflict it upon ourselves!

I haven't seen the Predator bluray damage but is it worse than the James Cameron supervised T2 4K travesty?

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Outside of the DNR and sharpening :shudders: what the fuck even is that colour grading?
 

Kuranghi

Member
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2010 Blu-ray on the left, original 2008 Blu-ray on the right, luckily they fixed it for the 4k UHD release and ditched the plastic transfer.

Uch, I just checked caps-a-holic and it looks like the DNR'd bluray was the same scan but yeah they went back on the plastic transfer thankfully. I'm gonna get this one, I didnt know it was in HDR now.
 

CrustyBritches

Gold Member
It took me some time to get it working correctly since I have a 3060 laptop the setup required an extra step. I tested on Crunchyroll and Youtube with 480p videos running fullscreen on a 4K display. It does a good job of reducing macroblocking and defining edges. Obviously, it can't manifest missing detail from nothing, and it has a harder time than games since it's just a 2d source without extra info from a 3d engine.

Crunchyroll:
Slider comparison

-Cropped portion of 4K fullscreen image at 150% zoom-
Naruto-VSR-480p-to-4-K-150percent-COMPARE.png


-OFF-
Naruto-VSR-480p-to-4-K-OFF.png

-ON-
Naruto-VSR-480p-to-4-K-ON.png

Click to expand...
Youtube:
-Cropped portion of 4K fullscreen at 100% zoom-
WWE-VSR-480p-to-4-K-1280x1280-COMPARE.png

-Off-
WWE-VSR-480p-to-4-K-OFF.png


-ON-
WWE-VSR-480p-to-4-K-ON.png

Click to expand...
 
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THE DUCK

voted poster of the decade by bots
I find it much better than MadVR and at a lower power usage, but much worse than Topaz AI which doesnt really work in real-time. Too bad we cant properly customize the settings and create presets like in those 2 or easily choose when to use it, not very user friendly. It might look good in one case and bad in the next one, the results will be wildly inconsistent.

Calling it super resolution when its just limited to upscaling and it doesnt work on native or higher videos is pretty deceptive. Surprisingly good for low quality videos, but not great for higher bitrate and resolutions.

A little warning: the upscaling wont trigger if the video playback window isnt larger than the selected playback resolution, so it might not work everytime unless you pick low enough quality, increase the window size or use fullscreen where it should work always as long as the video is below your native screen resolution.

Someone has already made it work on MPC-HC/BE.

Now we just need it on Firefox.

While i find the results quite impressive for how little power it uses compared to other solutions i expected a bit more. Its just way too restrictive in its current form. Hope they keep on improving it by giving us some options to tweak.

It works for mpc-hc? Where?
 

Leonidas

Member
Good to see Nvidia continue to innovate.

It seems that Intel will have the feature soon as well.

 
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Jigsaah

Gold Member
I don't quite understand this. I activated it at level 1, so am I supposed to watch a video in 4k to get the benefit?
 

yamaci17

Member
I don't quite understand this. I activated it at level 1, so am I supposed to watch a video in 4k to get the benefit?

the video you watch should have a lower resolution than your screen resolution

so if u have a 1080p monitor, 360/480p/720p and so forth videos will be upscaled to 1080p using ai stuff. 1080p videos are not touched

if u have a 1440p screen, 1080p and below will be upscaled

and so on

u can trick/cheat the system by changing your desktop resolution to virtual 4K (DSR). then all 1080p streams will be upscaled to 4k as well
 

Jigsaah

Gold Member
the video you watch should have a lower resolution than your screen resolution

so if u have a 1080p monitor, 360/480p/720p and so forth videos will be upscaled to 1080p using ai stuff. 1080p videos are not touched

if u have a 1440p screen, 1080p and below will be upscaled

and so on

u can trick/cheat the system by changing your desktop resolution to virtual 4K (DSR). then all 1080p streams will be upscaled to 4k as well
I see. This only works in a Chrome or Edge browser though. Hmmm.

I have a 1440p monitor, so I can do the Virtual 4k thing? DSR? Trying to find the option for it.
 
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yamaci17

Member
I see. This only works in a Chrome or Edge browser though. Hmmm.

I have a 1440p monitor, so I can do the Virtual 4k thing? DSR?
I'd say you don't have to, as you would be hard pressed to find native 1440p videos

most 1080p/720p content on the internet should be upscaled to 1440p in your case. if you don't see any differences, try updating your browser maybe
 
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Just tried it. There is a noticeable difference between off (0) and 1. Can't see any difference between 1, 2, 3 or 4 though. I redone it and made sure to fully quit the browser each time.

I'm using Edge with a 4080. I tried to find a YouTube video with lots of colours/textures.

 
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