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[U n i o n 0015]

then again, system is full of clutter in background, since im nt actively playing the game and dissect it instead lol

I think it's an issue with the game, and a lot of people are complaining about it. If it's not bothering you, that's good.

My FPS is very good, but the stutters are very annoying. Oh well hope they fix it at some point, but I've got other stuff I can play in the meantime.

 

[rofif]

ok. got msi afterburner to show yamaci17
3080fe
3700x
4k.

Dynamic res is very wonky. It does change the resolution also based on your fps targer.
I suggest turning off dynamic res and setting fps to unlimited.

RT ultra max + mega cock, 4k, drs off - 20fps.
Dlss Quality - about 33fps

Terribly lagginess without nvidia reflex. not sure what this game is doing. Both in windowed and full screen... like if you ran unlocked 25-35 fps wihout vrr or worse but vrr is working
Nvidia reflex 100% fixes this weird lag.
Yep... it's witcher 3 alright? It always looked amazing. tbh all the original needed was dlss!

EDIT:
I recommend turning nvidia hair off. This shit still looks flat and out of place.
NORMAL HAIR:

Nvidia stupid hair that don't even match the beard. It looks ok in some scenarios but sometimes not like here

Looks like nvidia hair is more shiny and does not take in GI.
ps5 and xsx use normal hair right ?

 

[Denton]

I've started a new game so not got there. Are you using frame gen?

I have 3080Ti so no framegen for me.
And I saw video with 13900K and 4090 and the guy dropped into 30s in Novigrad
Of course framegen fixes that.

So yeah, the only way to play 2015 game at 60fps stable with RT enable is by buying 2000 euro GPU. How quaint.

 

[TintoConCasera]

ok. got msi afterburner to show yamaci17
3080fe
3700x
4k.

Dynamic res is very wonky. It does change the resolution also based on your fps targer.
I suggest turning off dynamic res and setting fps to unlimited.

RT ultra max + mega cock, 4k, drs off - 20fps.
Dlss Quality - about 33fps

Terribly lagginess without nvidia reflex. not sure what this game is doing. Both in windowed and full screen... like if you ran unlocked 25-35 fps wihout vrr or worse but vrr is working
Nvidia reflex 100% fixes this weird lag.
Yep... it's witcher 3 alright? It always looked amazing. tbh all the original needed was dlss!

I have 3080Ti so no framegen for me.
And I saw video with 13900K and 4090 and the guy dropped into 30s in Novigrad
Of course framegen fixes that.

So yeah, the only way to play 2015 game at 60fps stable with RT enable is by buying 2000 euro GPU. How quaint.

Holy shit, did they outsource the port to From Software or what?

 

[Denton]

Holy shit, did they outsource the port to From Software or what?

Rhetorical I know, though it was originally developed by russian branch of Saber and then taken inhouse.

I think it is just that the original game was made in 2011-2015 and never was supposed to have DX12 or RT, so they had to somehow hack it in...the codebase is probably just not optimized for that at all.

 

[rofif]

Why the hell is there no object motion blur and only camera motion blur it seems?!
The game could use some good quality object motion blur at the lowly 30fps....

edit: HOLY SHIT DLSS ULTRA PERFORMANCE ONLY 50 fps NEAR WHITE ORCHARD. Not even novigrad (don't have save)

 

[Denton]

(don't have save)

You do not need one. Start new game - blood and wine only and you can access entire map except Toussaint.

 

[Teh Chosen Juan]

anyone having audio issues? series x. have 3D headphones setting on. when i get into fights, the sounds of combat are like muted. sword clangs, bad guy noises, etc. weird. using arctis nova pro wired.

 

[yamaci17]

Why the hell is there no object motion blur and only camera motion blur it seems?!
The game could use some good quality object motion blur at the lowly 30fps....

edit: HOLY SHIT DLSS ULTRA PERFORMANCE ONLY 50 fps NEAR WHITE ORCHARD. Not even novigrad (don't have save)

its cpu bro, u can go 10p but u wlil have 50 fps

reduce grass and foliage to medium

 

[LiquidMetal14]

Run it how you want basically.

At 4k with everything cranked getting around 70 fps with DLSS Quality. Add in frame gen and that jumps to 100-120+ fps.

You could probably even run it maxed at 4k native with just the frame gen without any upscaling.

Let us pray

 

[rofif]

You do not need one. Start new game - blood and wine only and you can access entire map except Toussaint.

its cpu bro, u can go 10p but u wlil have 50 fps

reduce grass and foliage to medium

Crazy that 3700x is bottleneck for witcher fucking 3.
25-35 fps in novigrad 4k ultra rt max dlss quality, drs off. But the stutter in novigrad is kinda insane. wtf. I am not even more interested to try ps5 version rt 30fps mode.

Just testing and making use of photo mode so far! The game is still a pain in the ass to control

edit: 100% there is memory leak. I alt tabbed back to the game (borderless window) and it's 7fps now

haha recorded a bit.


edit: now trees and foliage is flickering snow on/off

 

[yamaci17]

I think it's an issue with the game, and a lot of people are complaining about it. If it's not bothering you, that's good.

My FPS is very good, but the stutters are very annoying. Oh well hope they fix it at some point, but I've got other stuff I can play in the meantime.

yeah its not bothering me. stutters here and there. but novigrad surely bothers me



heres a video. being trustful, i also included novigrad performance. i mean, i still do find it somehow playable. but as you can see, skellige is somewhat smooth, at least most of the times. can it be better? sure, but its not doom and gloom at least

 

[rofif]

Looks really good on ulra+ (no rt) and almost never drops below 60.
Almost makes RT pointless without direct comparison.

 

[Lucifers Beard]

It runs like shit on 5700x too, 3070 as well

Doesn’t run great on a 12700K with a 3080 either.

 

[Diddy X]

Is Ultra+ worth it?

 

[yamaci17]

Looks really good on ulra+ (no rt) and almost never drops below 60.
Almost makes RT pointless without direct comparison.

while you're at it, go back to directx 11. you can still run ultra+ but you will get superior CPU bound performance and stutters begone
for some weird reason dlss is not there but im sure u will bee fine iwthout it

 

[Denton]

I find it hard to go back to raster. I can see the fake lighting everywhere and it pisses me off.

Of course, RT has another problem, that even if I find a setting that runs stable 60 and am outside of Novigrad, the camera panning microstuttes for some reason (with vsync enabled and stable 60). Disable RT and voila, perfect frame delivery and frame pacing. God dammit.

 

[GHG]

I have 3080Ti so no framegen for me.
And I saw video with 13900K and 4090 and the guy dropped into 30s in Novigrad
Of course framegen fixes that.

So yeah, the only way to play 2015 game at 60fps stable with RT enable is by buying 2000 euro GPU. How quaint.

Well playing games with the full suite of ray tracing features enabled at their highest settings was always going to be demanding. Nobody ever said otherwise.

 

[rofif]

I find it hard to go back to raster. I can see the fake lighting everywhere and it pisses me off.

Of course, RT has another problem, that even if I find a setting that runs stable 60 and am outside of Novigrad, the camera panning microstuttes for some reason (with vsync enabled and stable 60). Disable RT and voila, perfect frame delivery and frame pacing. God dammit.

Other way around here. Raster Keeps looking good and rt introduces inconsistencies.

 

[GHG]

Man they really needed to update the models and animations. Some of this stuff is just jarring considering the quality of everything else with RT turned on.

 

[Brock2621]

So I’m getting weird subtle flickers on Geralt’s clothing and other places (PC). I’ve messed a ton with the settings to to avail. I’m running a 3080Ti but anyone have similar issues on pc?

 

[winjer]

I decided to reinstall the full game, as I saw some people o the Steam forums saying it solved their issues with stutter.
Previously, I had it installed a few days ago and updated it today.
The result is that almost all those annoying stutter while traversing are gone. They still happen some times, but very rarely. So that is a big improvement for me.

On the other side, RT is not only very demanding but it also has severe issues with frame pacing.
Getting 40 fps on average with RT+ Ultra on RDNA2 is not bad. But the frame pacing looks horrible and I can really feel it while gaming.

 

[RNG]

For some reason turning on Nvidia Reflex to On or On + Boost plays a lot smoother than Off.

 

[Hugare]

Well playing games with the full suite of ray tracing features enabled at their highest settings was always going to be demanding. Nobody ever said otherwise.

But worse than Cyberpunk at Psycho? Ridiculous

There's no excuse. It's badly optimized, simple as that.

 

[rofif]

For some reason turning on Nvidia Reflex to On or On + Boost plays a lot smoother than Off.

Yea. It’s terribly weird without it

 

[GHG]

But worse than Cyberpunk at Psycho? Ridiculous

There's no excuse. It's badly optimized, simple as that.

Well good thing it performs better than cyberpunk at Psycho.




Same hardware at like for like settings (4k maxed out, all RT turned up to max, dlss quality) nets 70-80fps in the Witcher 3.

 

[Hugare]

Well good thing it performs better than cyberpunk at Psycho.




Same hardware at like for like settings (4k maxed out, all RT turned up to max, dlss quality) nets 70-80fps in the Witcher 3.

You're aware that Witcher 3 has DLSS 3 with frame generation, right?

Do you know how it works?

Here:





If it's getting ~100 FPS, without frame generation, it would be ~50 FPS

Even if it was 10 FPS better than Cyberpunk (which its not), Cyberpunk is way more complex than Witcher 3 and the performance delta wouldnt be justifiable

 

[GHG]

You're aware that Witcher 3 has DLSS 3 with frame generation, right?

Do you know how it works?

Here:



If it's getting ~100 FPS, without frame generation, it would be ~50 FPS

Even if it was 10 FPS better than Cyberpunk (which its not), Cyberpunk is way more complex than Witcher 3 and the performance delta wouldnt be justifiable

Read what I said again.

 

[Hugare]

Read what I said again.

I read it

It doesnt perform better than Cyberpunk

If it wasnt for DLSS 3, it would be running worse

Hence the benchmark results available online and from people playing the game everywhere in machines without DLSS 3

Read them and compare them with Cyberpunk benchmarks

 

[Denton]

Well good thing it performs better than cyberpunk at Psycho.

Not the case, on my 3080Ti Cyberpunk runs much better.

 

[anothertech]

I read it

It doesnt perform better than Cyberpunk

If it wasnt for DLSS 3, it would be running worse

Hence the benchmark results available online and from people playing the game everywhere in machines without DLSS 3

Read them and compare them with Cyberpunk benchmarks

He said like for like setting lolol

Maybe you missed it

 

[GHG]

I read it

It doesnt perform better than Cyberpunk

If it wasnt for DLSS 3, it would be running worse

Hence the benchmark results available online and from people playing the game everywhere in machines without DLSS 3

Read them and compare them with Cyberpunk benchmarks

I clearly said like for like settings.

Nowhere did I mention frame gen (if we include that then you're looking at 100-120+ fps with everything else kept the same).

On a 4090 it performs better than cyberpunk at like for like settings if we are strictly speaking about framerate.

 

[Gaiff]

Man what a mess of a game lmao.

Turning off AA altogether causes the image to be grainy and shimmery as fuck, exactly like disabling TAA in Cyberpunk.

DRS is janky as hell.

This needs a few patches. It's pretty bad in its current state.

 

[Hugare]

He said like for like setting lolol

Maybe you missed it

I clearly said like for like settings.

Nowhere did I mention frame gen (if we include that then you're looking at 100-120+ fps with everything else kept the same).

On a 4090 it performs better than cyberpunk at like for like settings if we are strictly speaking about framerate.

Except its not like for like settings if one of them is using Frame Generation and the other isnt

In the Witcher video its using DLSS 3 frame generation (at 30 seconds in the video), while Cyberpunk isnt, its using DLSS 2 at Quality

So performance in The Witcher should be way worse

 

[Thebonehead]

Dynamic res is very wonky. It does change the resolution also based on your fps targer.
I suggest turning off dynamic res and setting fps to unlimited.

RT ultra max + mega cock, 4k, drs off - 20fps.
Dlss Quality - about 33fps

Not heard of this mod before.

Is Geralt packing now and therefore dropping frames rendering his massive cock?

 

[GHG]

Except its not like for like settings if one of them is using Frame Generation and the other isnt

In the Witcher video its using DLSS 3 frame generation (at 30 seconds in the video), while Cyberpunk isnt, its using DLSS 2 at Quality

So performance in The Witcher should be way worse

Let me make this simple for you:

4090 cyberpunk maxed, 4k, dlss quality - ~60fps

4090 Witcher 3 maxed, 4k, dlss quality - ~70fps

That's with neither of the above using frame gen.

Capiche?

 

[Hugare]

Let me make this simple for you:

4090 cyberpunk maxed, 4k, dlss quality - ~60fps

4090 Witcher 3 maxed, 4k, dlss quality - ~70fps

That's with neither of the above using frame gen.

Capiche?

My fucking God, dude ...

Have you missed this fucking thing right here?

In any moment during the 26 minutes video he turns it off? No? So the video is meaningless for this comparison

If he had Frame Generation turned to OFF only with DLSS on Quality the comparison would be valid

How hard is it for you to understand?

 

[Denton]

Seriously, Cyberpunk runs 60fps on my setup with RT psycho.

Witcher doesn't. End of discussion

 

[Hugare]

Seriously, Cyberpunk runs 60fps on my setup with RT psycho.

Witcher doesn't. End of discussion

Same here

I get 40 FPS on Psycho with a 3060 with DLSS on Quality

Cant get a stable 30 in Novigrad in TW3

Is it so hard to get the idea that maybe CDPR did a poor job with this patch?

People cant even change RT settings without the game crashing.

 

[amigastar]

The problem is with RT turned off the shadows are almost not visible. That wasn't even the case in the version before the complete patch.

 

[Filben]

Can't even use DLSS. Game says it's not supported and hence greyed out. What a release...

EDIT: Now the game crashes everytime I activate RT or load a game with RT enabled from the main menu. CDPR delivering again...

 

[Gaiff]

Some examples of the graphics bugs:

Shadows popping in and out of existence.

Messed up smoke.

Image without any form of anti-aliasing.

I'll sit this one out and wait for patches.

 

[amigastar]

Some examples of the graphics bugs:

Shadows popping in and out of existence.






Messed up smoke.



Image without any form of anti-aliasing.



I'll sit this one out and wait for patches.

Same here, i hope they fix the framerate and the visual effects like shadows and add a non RT Ambient Oclusion.

 

[A.Romero]

8600k, 3070, the game is unplayable with RT on.

Ultra+ does 30 - 50 fps with stuttering in many areas.

This is at 4k resolution.

Haven't had the time to experiment with more settings.

I'm totally upgrading to raptor lake next month. GPU will have to wait as none of the current options really convince me.

 

[GHG]

My fucking God, dude ...

Have you missed this fucking thing right here?

In any moment during the 26 minutes video he turns it off? No? So the video is meaningless for this comparison

If he had Frame Generation turned to OFF only with DLSS on Quality the comparison would be valid

How hard is it for you to understand?

I linked you a cyberpunk video as an example, not his Witcher 3 video. You're taking screenshots from a video you posted as if it means something in the context of this discussion. I was never referring to the performance of the Witcher 3 with frame gen turned on. I literally said like for like settings.

You linked his Witcher 3 video. I'm telling you about my performance (with frame gen turned off in the Witcher 3) in the two respective games we are discussing.

 

[Gaiff]

8600k, 3070, the game is unplayable with RT on.

Ultra+ does 30 - 50 fps with stuttering in many areas.

This is at 4k resolution.

Haven't had the time to experiment with more settings.

I'm totally upgrading to raptor lake next month. GPU will have to wait as none of the current options really convince me.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with your setup. This game is a farce just like Callisto Protocol and Gotham Knights when it comes to RT. At 4K, the 4090's frame rate goes from 148fps to 47fps by just turning on RT settings. A 68% performance decrease and a net loss of 101fps. This is fucking crazy.

The CPU usage is in the gutter and another user saw the thread usage and there were 1-2 threads being utilized while the rest remained idle. This is further supported by the RT performance with DLSS at 1440p and 1080p being identical. Increase the resolution to 4K+DLSS and the frame rate goes from 78 to 73, a paltry 5fps loss for a massive increase in resolution.

This is 100% a CPU bottleneck and also why the 4090 drops to an average of 47fps at native 4K Ultra+/RT and even tanks into the 30's in Novigrad.

The GPU usage is poor and the game is full of visual bugs such as shadows popping in and out of thin air, LOD problems, transparency glitches, and a lot of other things.

RTXGI isn't that demanding. Some fuckery is going on that's causing it to absolutely murder GPUs, even a 4090 is knocked to the ground in what is an updated 2015 game. Don't update your rig for this garbage.

At least it's free but AAA game development has become a joke.

 

[Denton]

Can't even use DLSS. Game says it's not supported and hence greyed out. What a release...

You are using old driver if DLSS isn't working.

I'm totally upgrading to raptor lake next month.

just fyi it will not get you stable 60 in this, unless CDP somehow optimize it themselves

 

[decisions]

If I already own the PS4 ver. so I can upgrade for free, it seems like I should do that rather than get the PC version, since trying to boost the PC settings beyond what the console upgrade provides results in poor performance...

 

[GHG]

Seriously, Cyberpunk runs 60fps on my setup with RT psycho.

Witcher doesn't. End of discussion

Unless you're running DLSS balanced or performance then doubt.

People saying this is harder to run than Cyberpunk are categorically wrong. This is par for the course from CDPR, both are unjustifiably hard games to run, with the Witcher 3 performing slightly better:

Hugare it would benefit you to look at the benchmarks above as well.

 

[Denton]

Unless you're running DLSS balanced or performance then doubt.

FFS obviously I am using DLSS. And I am using it in Witcher as well. It is like for like.

Point is, in Cyberpunk I can enjoy 60fps 99% of the time with RT.

In Witcher I cannot enjoy 60fps with RT pretty much any time I am in a location with NPCs.

And Cyberpunk has many, many more NPCs on screen.