Topher
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There are no documents. Only common sense.
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There are no documents. Only common sense.
WeAreVenom8659
Banned
Oh, so made up bullshit. Cool.
CatLady
Selfishly plays on Xbox Purr-ies X
Not that I'm aware of. I have never seen anything to indicate it was ever planned to be on PS.
Who cares anyway, whatever may or may not have been planned is irrelevant it won't change the fact that it NEVER released on PS, it has never even released on Xbox so stop beating a dead horse.
feynoob
Gold Member
WeAreVenom8659
Banned
Topher
Gold Member
Clearly he is saying Bethesda as an independent game developer made games for PlayStation. Post acquisition ,they do not. And he is right.
WeAreVenom8659
Banned
There is nothing clear about what
feynoob
said, and I find it wholly unsurprising that the dude who thinks it was hitting PS pre acquisition “because common sense lol” is buying into this. You can sit here and argue in circles all you want and make up whatever reasons that sound good in your heads. Facts are facts and the fact is, according to YOU, there is no document suggesting the game was coming to PS.
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
You want me to prove that a 2018 announced title was planned to be released on PlayStation.
You believe a Starfield, which was announced in 2018 wasn't planned on being released on PlayStation at all.
You're trying convince me that they were never interested in releasing the game on PlayStation, one of the biggest platforms on the market.
Look, I'm not going to argue with people who are purposely playing dumb.
gothmog
Gold Member
Why do documents even matter in a thread where people don't even read the ones we do have?
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
You guys want to convince people in this thread that they didn't intend to release the game on PlayStation.
Dear god. Sorry, but you guys need to stop playing dumb.
gothmog
Gold Member
Us not having the documentation and the documentation not existing at all are two different things.There is nothing clear about what
You can sit here and argue in circles all you want and make up whatever reasons that sound good in your heads. Facts are facts and the fact is, according to YOU, there is no document suggesting the game was coming to PS.
WeAreVenom8659
Banned
Yes.
I assure you, what you’re doing is not arguing. You have to actually back your shit up.
That is neither my fault or problem.
Topher
Gold Member
There is nothing clear about what
You can sit here and argue in circles all you want and make up whatever reasons that sound good in your heads. Facts are facts and the fact is, according to YOU, there is no document suggesting the game was coming to PS.
Yeah, no shit I said there no documents. There just aren't. Do I need a document to deduce that Bethesda wasn't going to just randomly turn into an Xbox exclusive developer without being acquired. No, I really don't. That would be idiotic. And yeah, that is what we call "common sense".
Guess what? There are no documents saying Starfield was going to be Xbox exclusive either. But I guess there must since you don't believe anything without documents. Right?
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WeAreVenom8659
Banned
The fuck you getting spicy for? You need a break from this thread.
Topher
Gold Member
I'm answering in kind. Seems pretty obvious.
WeAreVenom8659
Banned
Topher
Gold Member
NEW GOALPOST JUST DROPPED
Nope. Simple counter point. Am I wrong?
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
The words are in the report that MS made a verbal agreement. So you have to prove that no verbal agreement was made.
People with common sense aren't going to believe that it wasn't coming to PS before the acquisition, but here you are trying to raise doubt. lol.
How many Besthesdia games were exclusive before the acquisition on PS4?
Yeah, no one is going to buy it, dude. Just admit it.
PisswasserYellow
Member
Starfield was definitely going to be on PlayStation.
WeAreVenom8659
Banned
You already admitted there are no documents. I am not going in circles with people that create whatever narrative they choose simply because they wish it so.
Do better.
You talk a lot but say absolutely nothing.
Technically, the government could permanently end all forms of taxation tomorrow. There’s no way to say it’s impossible. And it does sound more likely than an expensive game skipping largest console base that could run it (absent an exclusive deal or buyout).
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
If my comments about MS upsets you, then mute me. At the very least, don't go around trying to convince people that Starfield wasn't going to be released on PS.
It's one of the dumbest arguments I've seen people make on this forum in a while.
CatLady
Selfishly plays on Xbox Purr-ies X
This is the last time I responding to your bad faith and disingenuous comments. I've stated repeatedly IT DOES NOT MATTER WHETHER THEY PLANNED TO RELEASE ON PLAYSTATION OR NOT. It was never released or removed from PlayStation.
You keep avoiding the fact that it NEVER released PlayStation. No matter how times you try to claim it was planned to be PS, doesn't mean it was ever released or removed from PS. You don't have any proof it was ever meant to be released there and it does NOT matter anyway. You are being deliberately obtuse don't expect me to waste any more time with you.
feynoob
Gold Member
Simple term for kids.
Zenimax released Skyrim on PS.
Zenimax was making Starfield, before MS started the purchase.
If MS hadn't purchased them, Starfield would have hit down PS.
But since MS bought the company, there was no plans for PS, because it's Xbox 1st party game now, after the purchase.
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
If it's being developed for the PlayStation and you stopped it from releasing on the platform, then you're removing it.
Accept it and move on.
CatLady
Selfishly plays on Xbox Purr-ies X
Smart move, I going to do the same thing now, instead of wasting any more time with bad faith posters acting deliberately obtuse.
WeAreVenom8659
Banned
When and where did this happen, exactly?
Topher
Gold Member
Again.....no shit. Who is talking about documents? This is pure speculation, but it is indeed common sense that Bethesda would have remained a multiplatform developer had MS not bought them. So if you are going to call bullshit on that statement then you are suggesting Starfield was going to be Xbox exclusive anyway?
WeAreVenom8659
Banned
I am well aware.
bentanchorbolt
Banned
You don’t think it would have been on the PS5? Lolwut
Topher
Gold Member
Do you think Bethesda would have become an Xbox exclusive developer had Microsoft not bought Bethesda?
WeAreVenom8659
Banned
We are talking about you admitting to there being no evidence to Starfield appearing on PS consoles prior to the acquisition, not whatever “gotcha” you think you’re going to make.
bentanchorbolt
Banned
Dude. Stop.
Dude. That’s a weak cop out from answering the question. You are calling him out on a very unlikely technical possible outcome. Are you arguing technicalities he admits to or making a case?
Topher
Gold Member
Asked and answered, multiple times.
Now you are just dodging a simple question.
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CatLady
Selfishly plays on Xbox Purr-ies X
Exclusives:
TES Morrowind - Full exclusive
TES Oblivion - Timed exclusive
Additionally:
Xbox was the lead platform for Skyrim
Fallout 4 got exclusive content on Xbox. Fallout 3 came with it and it also got mods while PS didn't until much later.
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
Skyrim
Fallout 4
Fallout 76
Doom
Doom Eternal
Rage
Prey
Dishonored
Wolfenstein
The Evil Within
The Evil Within 2
Elder Scrolls Online
Deathloop
Ghostwire Toyko
XBOX GAF: "We don't know they were going to release their big game on PlayStation!"
I"m done. This is getting so stupid.
Thirty7ven
Banned
So the last time they had a full exclusive was 20 years ago, then a timed exclusive 16 years ago.
Meanwhile Zenimax was doing PS5 times exclusives… last year.
Mods? Do you even read your posts before you press the orange button?
WeAreVenom8659
Banned
Because it’s a bullshit question.
Bring the sources with new news please. But it sounds logical they would accelerate other sides side as much as possible. There’s been claims of termination fees rising over time earlier. Cant profess to know if that’s true, but it certainly would be reason to figure out how many legal battles they would face asap.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Yeah, no shit lol
Let's see if FTC asks for concessions to approve in between this time. Otherwise this is gonna be a long while. If CMA/EU moves forward positively in the mean time, let's see.
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Topher
Gold Member
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
Sony was reportedly trying to negotiate an exclusive deal for it before they got bought.
feynoob
Gold Member
It's from that website.
Right now, the CMA is tightening up their findings, and throwing away not important ones.
If the deal gets blocked here, it's basically dead.
WeAreVenom8659
Banned
I loved that show, too. Gah, Charlie Murphy was incredible. Rest in peace.
Anyway, yeah, it’s a bullshit question. But you knew that before you posted the reply, and you know *exactly* why, too.
feynoob
Gold Member
Dude, you are an idiot, if you can't see the fact that a 3rd party publisher would put their games on all platforms.
If MS didn't buy them, Starfield would have been announced for all platforms.
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Topher
Gold Member
Nah, you just don't want to answer it, and you know *exactly* why, too.
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I would assume the same thing. In either of the other two really. Not sure if there’s risk anywhere else MS would worry too much about. But my assumption assumes the escalating fee is real. If it’s static MS might fight all the way to the end.
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