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The Callisto Protocol - The DF Tech Review + PS5 vs Xbox Series X/ S + PC #StutterStruggle Analysis

93xfan

Banned
You're still here? I figured you'd leave out of embarrassment at this point. What's defragging these days? Don't think I've done one of those in over a decade. Kinda became useless once ssds became the norm. You're just now experiencing that of course. We've had it for years.
No I’m having fun talking to the PC peasants. ;)
 
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rodrigolfp

Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Hope you’re not gaming and typing at the same time. Your PC needs all the power it can get to run Unreal Engine 4.

Maybe you should take a break and do a defrag (at 100FPS of course).
Imagine thinking PC is using 100% of CPU because stuttering is happening and SSDs need defrag...
 

cash_longfellow

Gold Member
Soooo….is the performance or actual game, the worst part of the game? Seems like they are at each others throats right now. Will wait for update.
 
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GHG

Gold Member
Nah.

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Remember when they said "wait for the real next gen games".

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Arioco

Member
Series S runs the game at 30fps better than Series X while also not ray tracing just like Series X. Do I need to go any further about what's wrong with that picture? 😂

Series X does use RT, just not RT reflections. Unlike Series S that doesn't use any RT feature.

As a staunch Xbox player, it's clear that as we go deeper into the generation that the Xbox Series X simply won't be able to compete with the PS5.

The idea that they forgot to turn the RT on for the Xbox is laughable. It's obvious that the machine simply can't run the game with it on, because it is so much less capable than the PS5. The developers are hoping that we just forget about it in time. It's obvious.

The painful truth is that the PS5, with its 5.5 teraflops per second SSD, is a technological triumph.

¿?

😂
 

OmegaSupreme

advanced basic bitch
The game does look pretty insane at times. Shame on the devs for the issues. They have a good game here. Get your shit together Glenn.
 

93xfan

Banned
Humor and dirty peasantry don't come along.
In all seriousness, I felt like having a little fun with this, as I often see PC evangelists in threads about console only games or topics.

Also, I wanted to raise awareness about defragging. It sounds like many of you haven’t done so in a long time.
 

rodrigolfp

Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
In all seriousness, I felt like having a little fun with this, as I often see PC evangelists in threads about console only games or topics.

Also, I wanted to raise awareness about defragging. It sounds like many of you haven’t done so in a long time.
Consoles uses pc tech to exist, so any console thread is automatically a pc thread too.
 

OmegaSupreme

advanced basic bitch
In all seriousness, I felt like having a little fun with this, as I often see PC evangelists in threads about console only games or topics.

Also, I wanted to raise awareness about defragging. It sounds like many of you haven’t done so in a long time.
Console only games? Those barely exist anymore. Unless you're talking about switch. The one console future is here. It's amazing.
 
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Rippa

Member
Holy fuck does this “cross-gen” game look super “next-gen” on PS5 in quality (the way cinematic action adventure games are supposed to be played) mode.

Just look at all the graphical fidelity lost in performance (day-time soap opera) mode in comparison.😋
 

OmegaSupreme

advanced basic bitch
Holy fuck does this “cross-gen” game look super “next-gen” on PS5 in quality (the way cinematic action adventure games are supposed to be played) mode.

Just look at all the graphical fidelity lost in performance (day-time soap opera) mode in comparison.😋
Surely you can't be serious.
 

Grildon Tundy

Gold Member
Been following Glen Schofield's Twitter. Apparently, they pushed the wrong Day One patch to PC on accident and are working to fix. This tweet was from 20m at time of posting and is referring to California time. So he estimates the Steam version will be up in about 15 minutes:

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Edited for spelling
 
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Hunnybun

Member
In all seriousness, I felt like having a little fun with this, as I often see PC evangelists in threads about console only games or topics.

Also, I wanted to raise awareness about defragging. It sounds like many of you haven’t done so in a long time.

Speak for yourself. I may not be 18 anymore but personally I still manage to defrag 3 or 4 times a week.
 

analog_future

Resident Crybaby
As a staunch Xbox player, it's clear that as we go deeper into the generation that the Xbox Series X simply won't be able to compete with the PS5.

The idea that they forgot to turn the RT on for the Xbox is laughable. It's obvious that the machine simply can't run the game with it on, because it is so much less capable than the PS5. The developers are hoping that we just forget about it in time. It's obvious.

The painful truth is that the PS5, with its 5.5 teraflops per second SSD, is a technological triumph.

This has got to be a copypasta
 

Killer8

Member
Unreal Engine and DX12 being pure trash on PC, as usual. You have the best hardware in the world, but dogshit engines and APIs have made console gaming the place to be for the last few years now. It's very sad.
 

Thebonehead

Banned
This has got to be a copypasta
Well it does seem that way... Just a small selection ..

PS5's SSD is more important than Xsux's tiny power advantage.

Another win for the PS5. Seems like the power of the SSD is doing the work on this one.

Another clear win for the PS5. I could be wrong but looks like the PS5's superior SSD power is doing the work on this one.

I've only watched 12 seconds of the video but this is another clear win for the PS5.

Seems like it's the power of the SSD that's doing the work on this occasion.

Seems like a clear win for the PS5 on this occasion. Seems to me that the SSD is doing the hard work here.

I sure do see a lot of PS5 threads dominated by Xbox fanboy retards on this "SonyGAF" site.

Still he could always try defragging his Ssd
 
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Black_Stride

do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
Apparently the absence of RT on Series X is neither a bug, nor a memory/hardware issue according to NXGamer (his video still processing):


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I know he has relationship with the developers which is why I'm hoping he managed to have an in depth chat with them about the tech and platform differences.
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Unreal Engine and DX12 being pure trash on PC, as usual. You have the best hardware in the world, but dogshit engines and APIs have made console gaming the place to be for the last few years now. It's very sad.

They already fixed the issue.
PC gaming pure trash?


P.S A 3070 is barely worth being called the best hardware in the world.
Hell at this point its practically a low/mid tier card when you considering everything above it.
70Ti
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80Ti
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90Ti
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4090

But even with a 3070 this game shouldnt be too much of an issue to run.
Youre acting like minspec is a 3080.
 

Zathalus

Member
What's' your definition of "optimize"? If PS5 quality mode also didn't have RT reflections and was exactly like XSX, would you question the optimization efforts?
I would, because the difference between the consoles is not 50%+. If Xbox had RT reflections and dropped a few FPS instead of the big drops we have now then I would expect that as that is the usual back and forth we see.
 

light2x

Member
Glad I don't have FOMO like some of you poor sods. Why care about others' enjoyment? Life's too short to worry about what other people are doing.
 
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I would, because the difference between the consoles is not 50%+. If Xbox had RT reflections and dropped a few FPS instead of the big drops we have now then I would expect that as that is the usual back and forth we see.
150 Sony devs assisted on this game....

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GymWolf

Member
The game is still not locked 60 at all on ps5 after patch 1.05.

Edit: well they already released a 1.06 patch, trying it now after the download.
 
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hlm666

Member
Are there any UE4 games that let you precompile shaders before launching the game?
The easy answer is yeh Sackboy compiles before the game starts now, the obscure answer is the gears of war devs manage to avoid stutter on pc so i'm guessing they do it at some point aswell.
 
Basically, the devs ran out of time and just launched it to get it out before Xmas.

Which is exactly what I've said from the beginning.

Coming out before the Dead Space remake was probably a consideration too.

I do feel kinda bad for the devs. Just a few months and they could have released it in a better state.
But this is an industry wide problem.
 

DenchDeckard

Moderated wildly
Coming out before the Dead Space remake was probably a consideration too.

I do feel kinda bad for the devs. Just a few months and they could have released it in a better state.
But this is an industry wide problem.
Yeah great point. They deffo would have felt like they need to get out first.

Such a shame that the games suffered for it. Like others have said, you get one first impression....sales are going to suffer hard due to these issues.
 

Lysandros

Member
So Sony sending devs over to help optimize the game paid off. Another case of water is wet. If the Xbox version is already running poorly I'm not sure adding effects is going to help that situation unless they spend a lot more time optimizing the game. Also people always state that some games run better on the series X, ok some games run better on the ps5. This is the one generation where there really isn't a gap between the machines, buy what you like and play the games.
Apparently this is VASG Malaysia which is a support studio for art. They aren't programmers thus have nothing to do with the performance difference or the RT implementation. They previously worked on Jedi Fallen Order and that game ran just fine on XSX.

"The new Malaysia studio was founded in Kuala Lumpur as a support studio, working closely with PlayStation’s Creative Arts team based in San Diego, and more specifically the Visual Arts team within it. The studio has 77 employees working on creating character models and other visual assets as well as motion capture and more."

https://www.ign.com/articles/playstation-malaysia-sony-ps5
 
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