nikolino840
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Sony appreciates "the CMA’s focus on protecting gamers" as it welcomes the announcement to further investigate the Activision acquisition
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drganon
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Why would any of them care? Nintendo never really gets cod to begin with, Valve and epic are pc oriented and Stadia's got way bigger problems.
The yougov poll around COD on GP is looking a bit more accurate
John Wick
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It will go through but with concessions and that's exactly what Sony want. Why do Sony want this deal to breeze through? It makes sense to make it difficult as possible and get the most they can. It will also put the brakes on MS buying anymore large publishers.
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TheGodfather07
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Do people not look at the charts. Cod is the highest seller on PS chart every year. No surprise sony will moan about losing it. They make tons of money off cod. They easily sell 15m consoles just to cod players alone. Alot of us here may not care for cod or played it in a long time but its a huge loss from a business sense and Sony are feeling the heat. They are going to lose their top selling game.
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Chukhopops
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Do you think Sony is hypocritical enough to make another acquisition while the process is going on and they complain about consolidation cutting off games?
My guess is yes they are.
My guess is yes they are.
splattered
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Naw
Stuart360
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Sony would be trying to buy Activision themselves if they had Microsofts money, make no mistake.
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Thirty7ven
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Boys must’ve forgot that while MS might lobby the fuck out of the US government, the rest of the world doesn’t care about MS.
They will be forced to launch AB games on PlayStation.
They will be forced to launch AB games on PlayStation.
StormCell
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I know. I'm like where the hell has this CMA been the entire time Sony has basically bankrolled third parties into skipping the Nintendo Switch with games like Persona and Monster Hunter World, etc. There's really no telling for how long Sony has been dropping benjamins to fuck over Nintendo fans.
Arcadialane
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is it really that hard to just revive haze and make it a cod killer?
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
I dont know. I dont know what Jimbo fears worse. Losing half of his revenue or sharing 30% of it with Microsoft while watching Phil undermine games like MLB The Show and CoD by offering them for free on gamepass on playstation.
I would personally let CoD go, and buy Take2. GTA Online was the second game on the list of most played online games at 40%. It wouldve been a great bargaining chip. You take cod? We take GTA away. But they idiotically spent $3.2 billion on Bungie who is only around 17% iirc. Maybe lower. Bungie makes games for the hardcore, casuals cant do those raids. Regardless, Take2 bought Zynga which added another $12 billion to their already high $18 billion price tag. But Sony shouldve pounced when they were under $20 billion. At $40 billion, they now simply have no shot unless they spinoff zynga immediately to another buyer like Tencent or Embracer group.
They couldve also bought Ubisoft and Capcom, but they might be waiting to see if this deal goes through. They need leverage right now and they have none. Bungie alone isnt enough. You need Destiny, Assassins Creed, Far Cry, Resident Evil, Street Fighter, and a lot more to negotiate for CoD. And this constant whining from Jimbo indicates that this option of acquiring publishers simply isnt available to him.
SenjutsuSage
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You can't "kill" COD, but you can easily compete on the same level as it by making a great first person shooter that people will buy if it looks good enough. The challenge is more how to handle the logistics of building an operation able to deliver them yearly or every 2 years, and how to successfully deliver the multiplayer side at a high level.
Thirty7ven
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hemo memo
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That’s why they don’t want this deal. Not because they want to “protect gamers” as if they wanted that they wouldn’t lock FF16.
GHG
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The recently installed chair for the CMA appointed September 7th, 2022 was brought in SPECIFICALLY to fight against raising of prices during tough economic times. And what did Sony just do in the UK? Rose their prices.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/oth...eclared-on-rip-off-petrol-stations/ar-AAXVSsT
Sony are a Petrol station.
$70 per litre.
John Wick
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Have they now? Post the contract so we can all have a look?
You sound a right hypocrite though as seeing as Nintendo did this practise well before Sony even entered the market.
SenjutsuSage
Banned
And the newly appointed chair as of Sept 7th, 2022 is specifically going to look unkindly to companies who have raised their prices while having a product that literally sells out the moment it comes in, and in which the company that sells it made record profits in their games business very recently, and has a games business that is billions of dollars stronger than the buyer of Activision Blizzard. That's precisely the style of greed that will harm Sony's credibility.
Meanwhile Game Pass is quite literally about making some of the biggest games out there a lot more accessible and affordable to a larger group of people.
abacab driver
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Never thought I'd see Sony in this (extremely vulnerable) position. Wow.
A user is "gamer" when Sony says so (of course only the one who plays on Playstation)
It's hilarious to see Sony make a statement "in defense of gamers" un general and then end up wanting everything or the best only for their PlayStation users while continuing to annoy Xbox users using their position of dominance.
We will see how it all ends, but it is clear that the CMA in its manifest was only serving the financial interests of Sony and in no other way. Apart from showing a clear ignorance of the reality of the market.
It's hilarious to see Sony make a statement "in defense of gamers" un general and then end up wanting everything or the best only for their PlayStation users while continuing to annoy Xbox users using their position of dominance.
We will see how it all ends, but it is clear that the CMA in its manifest was only serving the financial interests of Sony and in no other way. Apart from showing a clear ignorance of the reality of the market.
hemo memo
Gold Member
Well, for me I primarily play on PS5 but I give 0 fuck about Cod but it just pisses me off how hypocritical Sony is.Sony and Xbox fanboys united in prayer. Just not for the same thing.
Dumbest comparison ever. Raising of gas/electricity prices by energy companies and he was brought in so that there is actual competition instead of price fixing. Do you think that we have price fixing in the console space especially when they are mostly loss-leaders with low supply? If you do you're delusional.The recently installed chair for the CMA appointed September 7th, 2022 was brought in SPECIFICALLY to fight against raising of prices during tough economic times. And what did Sony just do in the UK? Rose their prices.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/oth...eclared-on-rip-off-petrol-stations/ar-AAXVSsT
John Wick
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Ask EA?
Stuart360
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They have all done it, and all continue to do it, which is why stuff like this from Sony is so cringe.
GHG
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No no, you don't understand. Of the current 3 console makers only Sony do moneyhats, timed exclusives and marketing deals. The other console manufacturers would never partake in such heinous crimes. The games that appear on those consoles are for everyone.
Bernd Lauert
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Ok, let's try again...
Sony are surely burning a bridge with a statement like that. I don't get why they wouldn't just stay quiet. Weird strategy.
Sony are surely burning a bridge with a statement like that. I don't get why they wouldn't just stay quiet. Weird strategy.
Ass of Can Whooping
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John Wick
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He should pass this amazing information onto EA and Dice. They will surely pay over the odds for this golden bit of advice
Mr Moose
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They paid to keep Monster Hunter World off Switch but not Xbox? While Switch has exclusive Monster Hunters? I think you're lying.
Ass of Can Whooping
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naw fam this is neogaf exclusive information. We gotta make it ourselves
Finally after 20 years we'll have a real COD competitor.
Lucifers Beard
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Protect the gamers? Absolutely crazy take from Sony. What about FFVII and FFXVI? You going to let Square Enix release them on Xbox? Didn’t think so.
More like protect the profits.
More like protect the profits.
Gudji
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Yeah they're already planning on going 3rd party.Translation : They're litterally shitting their pants right now
John Wick
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Maybe it's you showing ignorance because clearly your a keyboard regulator. Maybe the CMA have information you don't did you think about that?
Maybe they know MS past history in stifling and anti competitiveness?
Maybe they have researched what will happen if MS keep on making huge purchases?
I didn't see MS not stooping to the regulators when complaining about big bad Google and Apple?
Kenneth Haight
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Stuart360
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I'm not sure what you're getting at moose, are you saying Sony doesnt monayhat games or am i missreading you?.
My point was that they all have moneyhatted games, moneyhatted dlc, got exclusivity deals etc. Ninetndo was ridiculous with it in the Snes days.
SLB1904
Banned
World isn't on Switch because switch is a piece of garbage hardware wise.
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
Based on what? Sony seem pretty ok with the status quo where neither they nor MS owns ABK.
I'm sorry but its not just about the money, its about how the money is used. MS could have used that huge cash-pile on building stuff of their own. Like where are there new IP's?
It strikes me that MS are mainly investing to control, not build the industry. Is that what you want from a potential market-leader?
SenjutsuSage
Banned
He was brought in for far more than gas and energy prices buddy. The point is a company that has rose their prices even when they are selling out of everything and making record profits has no leg to stand on in a detailed phase 2 where Microsoft and Activision and its lawyers can really get busy to detailing the ins and outs of the industry and how little impact Call of Duty will have on Sony's ability to compete.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/oth...eclared-on-rip-off-petrol-stations/ar-AAXVSsT
What Microsoft is doing with Game Pass is literally innovation in the market and it's quite literally ensuring the best deal for consumers. Meanwhile Sony has just increased prices on UK consumers when they were already basically market leader selling everything they can produce.
The only people delusional is anyone seriously believing this deal won't go through. The phase 2 deadline is March. If only there were a few things that were going to go so well for Sony between now and then to prove to CMA all is well. Can't imagine for the life of me what they could be.
Mr Moose
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Did you not read the post you were replying to was talking about? Maybe I misread your original comment, I'm not sure.
And yes, all 3 moneyhat shit, they've been doing it years and won't be stopping any time soon.
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John Wick
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Read what you wrote because you sound stupid. Sony don't own Square Enix. Nor do they own the FF IP. So it's not upto Sony to decide anything that's your first mistake. If your going to post a clever rebuttal at least get the right information and blame the owners of the IP.
Loxus
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Though I agree with you about the exclusivity deals situation, one thing to note.
Sony exclusivity deals are temporary, while Microsoft exclusivity deal is permanent.
The Pleasure
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