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Asobo Studio (Microsoft Flight Simulator) is reportedly prototyping a racing game for Xbox.

Eddie-Griffin

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A brand new rumor from the latest episode of the Xbox Era podcast has talked about a potential game from developer Asobo Studio, the talented team behind Microsoft Flight Simulator.

The developer is rumored to be working on a prototype for a brand new racing game.

Nick’s source believes that Asobo Studio is prototyping the game for Xbox. He emphasized that the supposed title is only being prototyped at the moment. Therefore, Asobo Studio’s alleged game is unlikely to be released anytime soon.

This rumor is interesting, given Microsoft’s current racing franchise. The Forza Horizon and Forza Motorsport games have been Microsoft’s most well received releases in recent times. Forza Horizon 5 crossed 20 million players in June, and the title continues to do well.
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Assuming this report is true, it's not likely Project Gotham since Asobo is more attached to PC, and MS Flight Sim is a PC game brought to consoles and has primarily been until recently PC only. Project Gotham is still a possibility, but I think a new Rallisport challenge may be what this game may turn out to be. Compared to the sim Forza Motorsport, and the open arcade racer Forza Horizon, Project Gotham would be more different compared to those two than Rallisport Challenge, however I think Rallisport is the likely bet.

A new Project Gotham would be cool though, with Need For Speed shitting the bed there's a big vacuum to fill open for any competitor to drive in (lolz) but no one has yet.
 
MarkMe2525

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ChorizoPicozo said:
And then you got the "Play Station Template" meme.

Another racing game will be a waste of time and resources.
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It seems like you just took the easy way out instead of addressing his point. While the core gameplay mechanic in all racing game will obviously be driving, but there is still lots of room for variation and differentiators.

The analogy to 3rd person action games is quite on point. Same base mechanics, with many variations on setting and gameplay loop. It's not a knock against any of the games, it's just how games are made nowadays.
 
remember_spinal

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People will never learn their lesson believing Nicks bullshit, huh?

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ChorizoPicozo

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MarkMe2525 said:
It seems like you just took the easy way out
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No.

MarkMe2525 said:
instead of addressing his point.
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The point of Sony makes too many 3rd person games therefore MS should be allowed to have as many racing game as they want to create? .. That is not a good point.
MarkMe2525 said:
While the core gameplay mechanic in all racing game will obviously be driving, but there is still lots of room for variation and differentiators
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You don't say.
MarkMe2525 said:
The analogy to 3rd person action games is quite on point.
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It wasn't an analogy. It was a compassion between PlayStation and Xbox. That was his mistake.

MarkMe2525 said:
Same base mechanics, with many variations on setting and gameplay loop. It's not a knock against any of the games, it's just how games are made nowadays.
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Wow.

FPS....you shoot in first person. You could have endless variation of mechanics/game loops and whatever....they will appeal to a specific demographic (the people who likes FPS's).

The same happens to any genre.

Third person games have a broader appeal than racing games (regardless of variation of mechanics/loops/whatever).

My point is: Another Racing game dosen't make any sense when MS has a 2 titles that appeal to the two kind of gamers. And the industry offers the niche variation like rally (for example).

Again, waste of time and resources if the decided to green-lit another Racing Game.
 
MarkMe2525

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ChorizoPicozo said:
No.


The point of Sony makes too many 3rd person games therefore MS should be allowed to have as many racing game as they want to create? .. That is not a good point.

You don't say.

It wasn't an analogy. It was a compassion between PlayStation and Xbox. That was his mistake.


Wow.

FPS....you shoot in first person. You could have endless variation of mechanics/game loops and whatever....they will appeal to a specific demographic (the people who likes FPS's).

The same happens to any genre.

Third person games have a broader appeal than racing games (regardless of variation of mechanics/loops/whatever).

My point is: Another Racing game dosen't make any sense when MS has a 2 titles that appeal to the two kind of gamers. And the industry offers the niche variation like rally (for example).

Again, waste of time and resources if the decided to green-lit another Racing Game.
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It was absolutely an analogy. If you are not aware, the defenition of an analogy is a "comparison" (or compassion as you put it) between two things that have partial similarities. That's why he specifically brought up 3rd person action, as Sony has successfully marketed many of them in their first person catalog. It would "analogous" to a situation where MS had 3 racing games.

I'm not sure how you describing what a video game genre is helps you discredit my statement, as that exactly the same point I was making. Multiple games in any given genre can coexist as long as there is enough differentiation in the gameplay loop. You are making far reaching claims without any insight to what kind of racing game was even prototyped.

In what world does a arcade racer, simulation, and wacky kart racer not coexist? I'm not claiming it is going to be a kart racer but simply pointing out how foolish it is to call the project a "waste of time" when you have no idea what that project really is.

Edit: I forgot to mention that the fact you went straight to ad homenim rather than attempting to refute his statement in a logical manner, clearly points to you taking the easy way out.
 
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ChorizoPicozo

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MarkMe2525 said:
It was absolutely an analogy. If you are not aware, the defenition of an analogy is a "comparison" (or compassion as you put it) between two things that have partial similarities. That's why he specifically brought up 3rd person action, as Sony has successfully marketed many of them in their first person catalog. It would "analogous" to a situation where MS had 3 racing games.

I'm not sure how you describing what a video game genre is helps you discredit my statement, as that exactly the same point I was making. Multiple games in any given genre can coexist as long as there is enough differentiation in the gameplay loop.

Edit: I forgot to mention that the fact you went straight to ad homenim rather than attempting to refute his statement in a logical manner, clearly points to you taking the easy way out.
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He wasn't comparing games genres. He was comparing the practice of the other first-party publisher. (Trying to justify the practice of MS). In other words: "Moving the Goal post" bringing PlayStation in to the conversation. When my original point has nothing to do with Play Station.

What I am saying is that a third racing game when MS has 2 that already encompasses the spectrum between sim-arcady it dosen't make sense from a point of view of a single party portfolio.
 
MarkMe2525

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ChorizoPicozo said:
He wasn't comparing games genres. He was comparing the practice of the other first-party publisher. (Trying to justify the practice of MS). In other words: "Moving the Goal post" bringing PlayStation in to the conversation. When my original point has nothing to do with Play Station.

What I am saying is that a third racing game when MS has 2 that already encompasses the spectrum between sim-arcady it dosen't make sense from a point of view of a single party portfolio.
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I think instead of the assuming, you should maybe ask for clarification as I believe you are missing the forrest through the trees. The context clues clearly point to him bringing Sony's many successful 3rd person action games as a point of reference to the possible success of multiple games in the "racing genre". It's also pointing out how silly it would be to expect Sony not to keep producing them just because they already have a crowded 3rd person action catalog.
 
ChorizoPicozo

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MarkMe2525 said:
I think instead of the assuming,
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I am not assuming anything. Look at the conversion, he was assuming things he shouldn't assume. I was clear and concise. He tried to move the conversation towards play station and even the "ad homenim"

1. Me: this dosn't make sense
2. Him: why not?
3 Me: first party portfolio
4. Him: there are 2.
5.Me: that is enough.
3. Him: 🚩PS 3rd person games.🚩.
4. me: Play Station template meme.
5. Him:🚩 you don't have to buy it, you won't anyway.🚩 (Isn't this ad homenim?). He attacked me instead of engage in the debate.
6.Me. Game Pass =no one will buy it. (End)

MarkMe2525 said:
you should maybe ask for clarification as I believe you are missing the forrest through the trees.
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He should have.

Because again, I wasn't the one bringing PS into the conversation, clearly stated that my comment was about First party portfolio catalog.

MarkMe2525 said:
The context clues clearly point to him bringing Sony's many successful 3rd person action games as a point of reference to the possible success of multiple games in the "racing genre".
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And what did I said? PlayStation template meme.

Then he attacked my persona instead of engage in the conversation.

MarkMe2525 said:
It's also pointing out how silly it would be to expect Sony not to keep producing them just because they already have a crowded 3rd person action catalog.
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Again. Bringing Sony into the convesarion ain't productive at all. That is moving the goal post.

My original comment points out that as a first party publisher you need to entice different kind of gamers to your platform.
MS has a Sim and Arcady racing games, that encompass the full spectrum.

If he wanted to bring genuinely PlayStation in to the conversation he should maybe ask for clarification:

As in: ¿how is this different to PlayStation making 3rd person games?

But he didn't, he brought Playstation assuming things about me.
 
Stuart360

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ChorizoPicozo said:
He wasn't comparing games genres. He was comparing the practice of the other first-party publisher. (Trying to justify the practice of MS). In other words: "Moving the Goal post" bringing PlayStation in to the conversation. When my original point has nothing to do with Play Station.

What I am saying is that a third racing game when MS has 2 that already encompasses the spectrum between sim-arcady it dosen't make sense from a point of view of a single party portfolio.
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Yes how evil of them to think about making another racing game, wtf?.
Also how is using Sony as an example 'moving goal postsl?. I used Sony as an example because they make a shit ton of 3rd person action games.
 
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MarkMe2525

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ChorizoPicozo said:
You mean MarkMe2525?

Cuz in my comments I am trying to bring back the conversation to my original comment pertinent to the topic of this thread. (The hypothetical racing prototype from Asobo). And the only thing I said was:

"Why tho? this doesn't make sense at all"
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Talk about pot calling the kettle black.

Someone using PlayStation as an example, is not steering the conversation towards PlayStation. It's just what it is, having an example. If one says my daughter runs as fast as a cheetah, would you interpret that individual as steering the conversation towards cheetah? I also don't think you know what moving the goalposts means.
 
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CamHostage

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Nitty_Grimes said:
Microsoft Drive Simulator.
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I'm trying to remember if there was a Microsoft driving game back in the day? There was a time when they did have a lot of sim games, but I guess they didn't have like a vector line-graphics driving game or anything like that back when MS Flight Sim was getting started.

MS did produce Midtown Madness in the longago times...

 
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