AJUMP23
Gold Member
This is not a pm. You have to send a pm.
now you have to answer these questions 3
what is your quest?
what is your favorite color?
and what is the airspeed velocity of a swallow?
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now you have to answer these questions 3
what is your quest?
what is your favorite color?
and what is the airspeed velocity of a swallow?
DaGwaphics
Member
Anything official or just rumors?
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EDMIX
Member
All of us are out here wondering who the fuck this thing was even made for.
I never really got it. Its like....you stream the games, oh but you pay full price? The fuck? Oh you buy the streaming games....at full price....what money is being save here? Even if you don't have some super PC or gaming console or something, oh but you now have money for full priced games that need to be played with amazing internet....that cost more money?
I just don't know who the fuck this thing was made for folks. At least with Sony and MS doing streaming, it was thru a game system, where we might get that a family will have kids, they want to test out games or something, but with that its a service, its not fucking paying full price for the worst quality. Maybe they are just too deep ahead of their time with this and the market they are looking for simply doesn't exist yet. Until we have some free internet type set up for most countries, I can't see how this is ever going to make sense.
I knew this thing was going to fail when I first saw it and was like "oh, 9.99 a month thats a good idea.....wait what, you have to still buy the games...like full price? the actual fuck? wh...what? So you are paying 9.99...to get the right, to buy the games full price..."
I still don't fucking get any of that shit. lol
I never really got it. Its like....you stream the games, oh but you pay full price? The fuck? Oh you buy the streaming games....at full price....what money is being save here? Even if you don't have some super PC or gaming console or something, oh but you now have money for full priced games that need to be played with amazing internet....that cost more money?
I just don't know who the fuck this thing was made for folks. At least with Sony and MS doing streaming, it was thru a game system, where we might get that a family will have kids, they want to test out games or something, but with that its a service, its not fucking paying full price for the worst quality. Maybe they are just too deep ahead of their time with this and the market they are looking for simply doesn't exist yet. Until we have some free internet type set up for most countries, I can't see how this is ever going to make sense.
I knew this thing was going to fail when I first saw it and was like "oh, 9.99 a month thats a good idea.....wait what, you have to still buy the games...like full price? the actual fuck? wh...what? So you are paying 9.99...to get the right, to buy the games full price..."
I still don't fucking get any of that shit. lol
Iced Arcade
Member
No shocks were had.
It worked well but I don't even think they tried to support it.
It worked well but I don't even think they tried to support it.
Werewolf Jones
Gold Member
How they gonna shill for FIFA 23 release in September then suddenly pull the plug? Not happening... Right now at least.
Marvel14
Banned
Makes the "Videogame Apple would slaughter Nintendo " thread even more hilarious..jpg)
Google Stadia is Not Shutting Down [UPDATE]
Google Stadia denies the recent claims online that it would be shutting down its services by the end of the summer, promising more games to come.gamerant.com
Fredrik
Member
The selling point for game streaming has always been that you don’t have to buy a new console or PC.
I used Geforce Now to try out RTX when my PC were a few graphics card behind. And before nextgen started I used Stadia to play some games at 60fps that were only 30fps on consoles.
All streaming services fail to take advantage of this. They need to be ahead, far ahead, otherwise their only customers are those who never buy local hardware. And as long as not all games come to streaming services you’ll always need local hardware.
When I upgraded to Xbox Series X I didn’t need Stadia.
When I upgraded the PC I didn’t need Geforce Now.
You don’t need some amazing internet though, 100/100 mbit is my standard speed, pretty much the cheapest fiber I can get now, and it’s plenty enough.
Edit: not 10/10 mbit
The problem comes with your location. Wrong location = bad streaming experience.
Xbox Cloud has never worked well at my location for example. I’m not sure MS has any servers in Sweden, at least not when I tried it a year ago or so and had a horrible experience.
Stadia seemed to have servers close enough and/or fast enough that it worked perfectly.
And Geforce Now is the same, 15ms ping is alright I’d say.
Geforce Now bummed me out at the Cyberpunk launch though. I payed for the service and still had to wait in a queue… Too many jumped in to play it at once I guess. That can’t happen. Not ever.
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kapshin
Member
Bing has taken over!
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
Lol
sainraja
Member
They have done that in the past when they have shutdown services. I don't know if I said it in this thread (I probably did lol) but when they shutdown their groupon like website, they issued refunds to many people who had bought one from their website, even IF you had used, they refunded the money. It was called Google Offers.
sainraja
Member
Sony acquired some of Onlive and it became part of PS Now.
Fredrik
Member
PS Now is alive but it’s in serious need of upgrading. I thought they would do it when launching the new PS+ but they’re likely using all the PS5 components for consoles instead of server hardware.
CJ_75
Member
Google is still in denial but every gamer and their grandparents knows this is Stadia's last year. The service made the wait for the PS5 bearable for me and I quit the service after buying the PS5.
The Stadia controller was pretty good and hope it can be updated to be used as a standard Bluetooth controller. I would like to use it for casual games on Apple Arcade.
Hope Google make part of the games playable for free for xx months for all those who have bought the controller and games on their service.
The Stadia controller was pretty good and hope it can be updated to be used as a standard Bluetooth controller. I would like to use it for casual games on Apple Arcade.
Hope Google make part of the games playable for free for xx months for all those who have bought the controller and games on their service.
If you drop me the code over via PM I'll give you my code for six months of PS5
Fat Frog
I advertised for Google Stadia
Rudius
Member
To me it also "proves" there will be a PS6 and probably a PS7, with the corresponding Xbox and Nintendo hardware.
chromhound
Member
lostinblue
Banned
writing was on the wall for a while.
They needed to invest in more powerful machines because they couldn't compete with PS5 and Xbox Series consoles. Given the state of the service it wasn't worth it.
To be honest, I do think Stadia could be saved if it was bundled with other services. Like apple bundles Apple Arcade with Apple TV, Apple Music. That way it's harder to pinpoint that some part of the service is a failure too, it's just there so it's a plus. And Stadia hardware can still compete with Steam Deck easily.
They needed to invest in more powerful machines because they couldn't compete with PS5 and Xbox Series consoles. Given the state of the service it wasn't worth it.
They announced they would launch until the end of the year.
To be honest, I do think Stadia could be saved if it was bundled with other services. Like apple bundles Apple Arcade with Apple TV, Apple Music. That way it's harder to pinpoint that some part of the service is a failure too, it's just there so it's a plus. And Stadia hardware can still compete with Steam Deck easily.
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Fat Frog
I advertised for Google Stadia
Or simply make Stadia games available on the Google Play Store.
Random player : " Wait ? Cyberpunk playable on my phone ? No way ! Click to play demo ? Let's see... Holy shit ? How is it possible !??"
As for new GPU, the Stadia team last month made Stadia compatible with Nvidia GPUs. New blades incoming with the launch in Mexico ?
lostinblue
Banned
You make a good point.
Apps as shortcuts to a dedicated stream could work very well.
But if they were free with google storage the more clients they would have. They could make it free with the service for a while like they did with google photos and then spin it out. I agree keeping the option to buy games is good though.
I doubt the Mexico launch has new hardware, they might even be moving it at this point.
It's good that they can be hardware agnostic, but Nvidia doesn't usually win those contracts because it is almost always more expensive.
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Fat Frog
I advertised for Google Stadia
I thought the same but Stadia will be 3 years old with the Mexico Launch. All LATAM will have brand new data centers of all kinds and Stadia would be the only one with old hardwares ?
I wouldn't bet on a generational gap with the AMD blades but maybe a more modern architecture allowing Ray tracing and only a bit superior to PS5.
DeltaPolarBear
Member
Not quite. The issue is that there is diminished returns on processing power. So you would still own consoles, but at some point they would ALL be portable. Just as we moved from the arcades to the living-room TV, at some point the living room TV would no longer be needed. This would not happen any time soon as the heat and battery limits are absolutely still serious obstacles. But st some point a portable console would become "good enough" for most people to play games with. I actually think Switch is ahead of the curve and that the hybrid design is where it would end up for everyone. It might be ten years in the future though.
My personal theory is that Sony is investing in VR because they want to justify even more powerful hardware that you can't take with you on the go. The VR hardware requirements is a good way to justify staying on the cutting edge tech while not making the games too expensive to make. The Ceiling for good VR is very high and will take a long time for consumer tech to touch it.
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Maiden Voyage
Gold™ Member
I couldn't find any recent info on internet speeds in Latin America. The 2018 figures from Ookla don't look so hot.
Assessing Internet Speeds in Latin American Countries
Examining mobile and fixed broadband speeds from countries and cities from across Latin America to see who has fast enough speeds to stream and who doesn't.
www.ookla.com
Fat Frog
I advertised for Google Stadia
Don't worry for them, they can have 4K Stadia + Netflix running at the same time.
Nonetheless, i guess most of them will simply use the free 1080p offer.
https://www.speedtest.net/global-index/mexico#fixed
Keep in mind Brazilians had excellent results via VPN using US data centers...
and if the demand is too high like Xcloud and GFN (under attack of poor and hungry gamers), mexican stadians won't have queue like GFN. Google will make them use (deserted) US data centers...
Fuz
Banned
Fuz
Banned
Don't even suggest this shit.
prinz_valium
Member
There was a report a few years back that Google Cloud had until 2023 to gain a certain marketshare or else the company was going to nix it. It seems that's what's going to be happening, and stadia is part of the cloud business side.
edit: here it is
Google Brass Set 2023 as Deadline to Beat Amazon, Microsoft in Cloud
The clock is ticking for Google Cloud.The Google unit, which sells computing services to big companies, is under pressure from top management to pass Amazon or Microsoft—currently first and second, respectively, in cloud market share—or risk losing funding. While the company has invested heavily ...www.theinformation.com
No was Google is getting rid of their cloud, even if they lose out against Alibaba, Oracle and IBM.
Against Amazon and Microsoft, there is no chance anyways.
But margins suck compared to advertising. so who knows
cireza
Member
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
How can you kill that which has no life?
Fat Frog
I advertised for Google Stadia
Oh noooo, Stadia is closing again and again...and one more time for the old man back there that hates streaming and just needs his hardware to feel he's really gaming.
Meanwhile I will finish another game on this platform, aaaand another one
Cloud haters...
The only difference with the simpson ? They know how to smash the share button each time there is a sad Stadia rumor.
They want Stadia dead so badly...
It's like masturbation for them.
Lol 5 pages of people actually treating this horseshit rumor as legitimate. Not that Stadia is in good shape - far from it - but this is literally the Google version of "my friend's teacher's cousin's uncle works at Nintendo". Plus the official Stadia Twitter account already put out a tweet clowning on it:
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
By end of this year, Stadia will be 3 years old.
I saw more coverage of Jaguar during its 2-3 year lifespan.
I saw more coverage of Jaguar during its 2-3 year lifespan.
Maiden Voyage
Gold™ Member
Hey everyone! This guy is old!
FoundryMusic
Member
They must be very short games if you're finishing them that quickly.
lostinblue
Banned
I don't think 4K is that useful for something as latency dependant as streaming. The people using stadia to play something are not the PS5 crowd and I'm sure best case scenario would be casuals, people on the go, low-spec pc owners and switch owners.
I think 1440p as a top range option could be acceptable/quite respectable. Other than that 1080p with AA and more framerate is the way to go.
Stadia can never be better than a local experience anyway. It will never be better than Geforce Now as well. But that doesn't really matter.
Perhaps they should have positioned themselves as a service like Amazon Web Services (AWS). That way they might even have games using their framework to run on the Switch, kinda like Resident Evil 7 on Switch. People have been saying this for a while but they really should relaunch as a broader service less dependent on their app and instead providing that service to (developer) customers.
I also think offering some of those PC's as ChromeOS virtual machines on the cheap would be insane value and help ChromeOS a great deal as it would introduce developers to an alternative to Microsoft and AWS machines, trojan horsing their own OS in. It actually getting to a really nice place now, it just needs a push with better computers (it already runs Vulkan and Linux apps).
I think 1440p as a top range option could be acceptable/quite respectable. Other than that 1080p with AA and more framerate is the way to go.
Stadia can never be better than a local experience anyway. It will never be better than Geforce Now as well. But that doesn't really matter.
Perhaps they should have positioned themselves as a service like Amazon Web Services (AWS). That way they might even have games using their framework to run on the Switch, kinda like Resident Evil 7 on Switch. People have been saying this for a while but they really should relaunch as a broader service less dependent on their app and instead providing that service to (developer) customers.
I also think offering some of those PC's as ChromeOS virtual machines on the cheap would be insane value and help ChromeOS a great deal as it would introduce developers to an alternative to Microsoft and AWS machines, trojan horsing their own OS in. It actually getting to a really nice place now, it just needs a push with better computers (it already runs Vulkan and Linux apps).
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YeulEmeralda
Member
I wonder if it would actually be possible to stream image quality that is REALLY indistinguishable from a PS5 or decent gaming PC.
Maybe one day?
Fat Frog
I advertised for Google Stadia
They are already doing it, in fact, that's their main focus.
80% of their budget is for white labelling(20% for Stadia):
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/resi...ne-click-only-15mb-internet-required.1637614/
Some white labelling will remain independent from Stadia (like Batman AK), some others will at the same time feed Stadia store with games. (If you pay 3 additional dollars with Ubi +, you can use the Stadia tech to play without a powerful hardware. Ubi doesn't give a shit about the Stadia store, they expend Ubi + with Stadia and the Stadia is just a bonus for them)
Fat Frog
I advertised for Google Stadia
You save 500 bucks to play Fifa 23 next gen.
(750 to 1000 bucks for Mexicans...)
Who is paying 9.99 + the games ?
Pro users pay 9.99 to have 4K and free games each months.(early adopters have 150 free games right now).They can buy additional games if they are not satisfied with free games.
Free users don't pay sub, only games.
Playing RDR2 on PS5 will cost you: 560 bucks, only 60 bucks on Stadia...
Sub + game purchase isn't mandatory anymore.(it was only at launch...a big mistake)
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Aenima
Member
You talk like thers no 400$ PS5, and you talk like every time someone wants to play a game on PS5 they need to buy a new console. AT the end of the day you pay 400$/500$ for local gaming, that saves u money on internet data for those afected by internet data limits, and increases the experience by those afected by bad internet reception, or speed.
Streaming is a good complement but a terrible substitute compared to local gaming.
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Fat Frog
I advertised for Google Stadia
400 or $500 PS5 or even $300 Series S, i don't care it's still a lot of money for many countries...
As for data caps, yeah good point, i'll pray for america lol
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Andrew Evenstar
Member
this sucks. best console ever made.
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